Brook vs Vargas 3rd September

BigDoofus
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Re: Brook vs Vargas 3rd September

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lefty wrote:
BigDoofus wrote:
lefty wrote: How do you actually know that Hearn has actually done that though and not just claiming he has to get people off of his back?
It seems some people on here hate Brook that much that they don't want to believe it.
I don't hate Brook. I've said on here loads of times that I like his skill set and think he's one of if not the best welterweight in the division. What I do hate is the he won't show that by fighting the likes of Thurman, Spence, etc.

Also to be fair, yourself and parsons and a few others are not exactly unbiased in this matter as you guys personally know Kell.
Thurman is tied up fighting his toughest opponent (who Brook has already beaten) and Spence's team didn't want the fight. I think you're getting confused - I've never met Brook.
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Re: Brook vs Vargas 3rd September

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I don't really get the argument that people don't want to fight Brook, especially given that he is a World Champion. Brook isn't a concussive puncher, he isn't someone that people naturally fear. He isn't a Kovalev or Golovkin.
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Re: Brook vs Vargas 3rd September

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BigDoofus wrote:
lefty wrote:
BigDoofus wrote:
It seems some people on here hate Brook that much that they don't want to believe it.
I don't hate Brook. I've said on here loads of times that I like his skill set and think he's one of if not the best welterweight in the division. What I do hate is the he won't show that by fighting the likes of Thurman, Spence, etc.

Also to be fair, yourself and parsons and a few others are not exactly unbiased in this matter as you guys personally know Kell.
Thurman is tied up fighting his toughest opponent (who Brook has already beaten) and Spence's team didn't want the fight. I think you're getting confused - I've never met Brook.
Fair enough. Parsons and a few others do though.
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Re: Brook vs Vargas 3rd September

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crusader wrote:Moaning seems to be something you do quite a bit.

How many more times are you going to whine that people are hard on Crolla, Gallagher, Brook, and Hearn?
And don't forget Sky.


Because it clouds too many people's judgement, it finds a way into every thread and seems to be for the sake of it. It's often weird, with the name calling about Gay Eddie and Tesco Joe, prejudiced and overly negative.
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Re: Brook vs Vargas 3rd September

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Batley18 wrote:I don't really get the argument that people don't want to fight Brook, especially given that he is a World Champion. Brook isn't a concussive puncher, he isn't someone that people naturally fear. He isn't a Kovalev or Golovkin.
Plenty of money in world boxing yet Brook hasn't received any offers.
Do you believe that Amir Khan wants to take on Brook?
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Re: Brook vs Vargas 3rd September

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BigDoofus wrote:
Batley18 wrote:I don't really get the argument that people don't want to fight Brook, especially given that he is a World Champion. Brook isn't a concussive puncher, he isn't someone that people naturally fear. He isn't a Kovalev or Golovkin.
Plenty of money in world boxing yet Brook hasn't received any offers.
Do you believe that Amir Khan wants to take on Brook?
What are you talking about no offers

Brook has turned down pac and Bradley to name 2
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Re: Brook vs Vargas 3rd September

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Autobarn wrote:
crusader wrote:Moaning seems to be something you do quite a bit.

How many more times are you going to whine that people are hard on Crolla, Gallagher, Brook, and Hearn?
And don't forget Sky.


Because it clouds too many people's judgement, it finds a way into every thread and seems to be for the sake of it. It's often weird, with the name calling about Gay Eddie and Tesco Joe, prejudiced and overly negative.
Its Camp Eddie, actually.
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Re: Brook vs Vargas 3rd September

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Counter-puncher wrote:
Autobarn wrote:
crusader wrote:Moaning seems to be something you do quite a bit.

How many more times are you going to whine that people are hard on Crolla, Gallagher, Brook, and Hearn?
And don't forget Sky.


Because it clouds too many people's judgement, it finds a way into every thread and seems to be for the sake of it. It's often weird, with the name calling about Gay Eddie and Tesco Joe, prejudiced and overly negative.
Its Camp Eddie, actually.
I prefer Fast Eddie TBH
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Re: Brook vs Vargas 3rd September

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sweetscience wrote:
BigDoofus wrote:
Batley18 wrote:I don't really get the argument that people don't want to fight Brook, especially given that he is a World Champion. Brook isn't a concussive puncher, he isn't someone that people naturally fear. He isn't a Kovalev or Golovkin.
Plenty of money in world boxing yet Brook hasn't received any offers.
Do you believe that Amir Khan wants to take on Brook?
What are you talking about no offers

Brook has turned down pac and Bradley to name 2
Brook had a final eliminator scheduled in October 2012. A month before the fight he was offered a Bradley fight on 15 Dec with options. Hearn turned the fight down and the fight didn't even go ahead with Bradley not boxing until the following March (after the Alexander-Brook title fight scheduled for January and then February had been postponed twice).

I was replying to a post about people not wanting to fight Brook given he is a world champion. In the 2 years since Brook beat Porter in LA not one promoter has made a reported offer.

I am unaware of Brook ever being offered a Pacquiao fight. Could you provide a link to this?
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Re: Brook vs Vargas 3rd September

Post by handsofstone »

So Anyways whats the script with the Vargas unification? I thought this was gonna be Eddie's announcement last week when he announced he would be announcing an announcement regarding a big unification fight only for it to be Crolla fighting Linares in a not unification fight
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Re: Brook vs Vargas 3rd September

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BigDoofus wrote:
sweetscience wrote:
BigDoofus wrote:
Plenty of money in world boxing yet Brook hasn't received any offers.
Do you believe that Amir Khan wants to take on Brook?
What are you talking about no offers

Brook has turned down pac and Bradley to name 2
Brook had a final eliminator scheduled in October 2012. A month before the fight he was offered a Bradley fight on 15 Dec with options. Hearn turned the fight down and the fight didn't even go ahead with Bradley not boxing until the following March (after the Alexander-Brook title fight scheduled for January and then February had been postponed twice).

I was replying to a post about people not wanting to fight Brook given he is a world champion. In the 2 years since Brook beat Porter in LA not one promoter has made a reported offer.

I am unaware of Brook ever being offered a Pacquiao fight. Could you provide a link to this?
Why do they all have to make offers though? Why can't hearn be out making offers to these guys? It seems a bit of a cop out. Also didn't Kell's father also turn down a final WBO eliminator with the then unbeaten Mike Jones aswell?
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Re: Brook vs Vargas 3rd September

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lefty wrote:
BigDoofus wrote:
sweetscience wrote:
What are you talking about no offers

Brook has turned down pac and Bradley to name 2
Brook had a final eliminator scheduled in October 2012. A month before the fight he was offered a Bradley fight on 15 Dec with options. Hearn turned the fight down and the fight didn't even go ahead with Bradley not boxing until the following March (after the Alexander-Brook title fight scheduled for January and then February had been postponed twice).

I was replying to a post about people not wanting to fight Brook given he is a world champion. In the 2 years since Brook beat Porter in LA not one promoter has made a reported offer.

I am unaware of Brook ever being offered a Pacquiao fight. Could you provide a link to this?
Why do they all have to make offers though? Why can't hearn be out making offers to these guys? It seems a bit of a cop out. Also didn't Kell's father also turn down a final WBO eliminator with the then unbeaten Mike Jones aswell?
It's getting boring now lefty. He's beaten Porter, Thurman is boxing Porter, Garcia said he wanted $5m, Bradley, Spence and Cotto didn't want to fight yet and Khan said he'll never box him. Who do you want Hearn to make an offer to?
No idea about Mike Jones. Have you got a link or is it more mud-slinging?
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Re: Brook vs Vargas 3rd September

Post by brilo33 »

it is not the fight we want to see, but i still want to see brook fight get him (vargas) out the way then he will have to face big names
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