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Anzi wrote:

Redback Rasta wrote:

Anzi wrote:Teddy Atlas " AIBA is the most corrupt organisation in the world" https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 9880,d.d2s

Hard to argue. But they do have a host of competitors for that title.

Every governing body has corruption within it's ranks, the UN and Nato are at the top of the tree, but the AIBA and FIFA are climbing up the list fast.

Sure seems so.

Money the root of all evil

manchester-mexican wrote:Money the root of all evil

Amazing how the Amateurs has changed, with regards to money ? It used to be that the pros was about money, now you have some countries paying a fighter up to 500,000 dollars if they win a medal, I think only GB don't pay for medals, though they do give them funding, If fighters can get up to 500,000 dollars, what do those up the chain get ? No wonder there is corruption, with so much money around International Amateur boxing.

Anzi wrote:

manchester-mexican wrote:Money the root of all evil

Amazing how the Amateurs has changed, with regards to money ? It used to be that the pros was about money, now you have some countries paying a fighter up to 500,000 dollars if they win a medal, I think only GB don't pay for medals, though they do give them funding, If fighters can get up to 500,000 dollars, what do those up the chain get ? No wonder there is corruption, with so much money around International Amateur boxing.

This has always been the case - for years the Cuban and Eastern European countries would promise houses and state pensions to medallists (quite an incentive when you consider the alternative position).

Also, although nobody official has said to Nicola Adams "win a gold and we will give you £x" her medal will ensure that she stays on the funding programme and she will earn loads from her commercial stuff.

bripez wrote:

Anzi wrote:

manchester-mexican wrote:Money the root of all evil

Amazing how the Amateurs has changed, with regards to money ? It used to be that the pros was about money, now you have some countries paying a fighter up to 500,000 dollars if they win a medal, I think only GB don't pay for medals, though they do give them funding, If fighters can get up to 500,000 dollars, what do those up the chain get ? No wonder there is corruption, with so much money around International Amateur boxing.

This has always been the case - for years the Cuban and Eastern European countries would promise houses and state pensions to medallists (quite an incentive when you consider the alternative position).

Also, although nobody official has said to Nicola Adams "win a gold and we will give you £x" her medal will ensure that she stays on the funding programme and she will earn loads from her commercial stuff.

I remember when some Olympians had to fund themselves and coaches had to pay for their own airfare and hotels, I'm sure it happened with Jessie Owens coach ?

Singapore offered 900,000 dollars to their athletes if they won a medal at the Olympics.

Conlan needs to turn pro, he will find everything is fair and above board there

Coco wrote:Conlan needs to turn pro, he will find everything is fair and above board there

I don't know about fair, but if he get's the right promoter, which he should, fights at home, with the right opponents, he will have everything to his advantage and he will be on the other side of the coin, as opposed to Brazil.

Anzi wrote:

Coco wrote:Conlan needs to turn pro, he will find everything is fair and above board there

I don't know about fair, but if he get's the right promoter, which he should, fights at home, with the right opponents, he will have everything to his advantage and he will be on the other side of the coin, as opposed to Brazil.

You have a good understanding of how things work in boxing, if he sells tickets he could be the next Bernard Dunne

Anzi wrote:

Coco wrote:Conlan needs to turn pro, he will find everything is fair and above board there

I don't know about fair, but if he get's the right promoter, which he should, fights at home, with the right opponents, he will have everything to his advantage and he will be on the other side of the coin, as opposed to Brazil.

I agree with what you are saying - however, what you describe is effectively being unfair to all his future opponents ! (is this ok as long as people aren't being unfair to him ?? !! ...)

bripez wrote:

Anzi wrote:

Coco wrote:Conlan needs to turn pro, he will find everything is fair and above board there

I don't know about fair, but if he get's the right promoter, which he should, fights at home, with the right opponents, he will have everything to his advantage and he will be on the other side of the coin, as opposed to Brazil.

I agree with what you are saying - however, what you describe is effectively being unfair to all his future opponents ! (is this ok as long as people aren't being unfair to him ?? !! ...)

No it is not, that's why I started with " I don't know about fair", because boxing is not fair, it is about advantages, from the top to the bottom. Mayweather whilst training for his fight and knowing exactly, who he will be picking to fight, waits until as late as possible to confirm, giving himself an unfair advantage and at the bottom of the tree, opponents are chosen as late as possible to give the prospect an advantage.

Coco wrote:

Anzi wrote:

Coco wrote:Conlan needs to turn pro, he will find everything is fair and above board there

I don't know about fair, but if he get's the right promoter, which he should, fights at home, with the right opponents, he will have everything to his advantage and he will be on the other side of the coin, as opposed to Brazil.

You have a good understanding of how things work in boxing, if he sells tickets he could be the next Bernard Dunne

Thanks mate, yes he could be.