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Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 24 Dec 2016, 15:56
by franio
Wilder is coward, chicken, he has no balls and fight only with bums.

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 24 Dec 2016, 15:58
by asdfjkl
Tanzio wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Tanzio wrote: Wtf are you talking about? The video is literally about his conscious weight gain, ffs. You need to buy a vowel dude.
That's exactly what I say? He's more fat then ever before here and he never became this fat ever since.
He talks specifically to that in the vid.
Exactly, like I said?! He was out of shape and more fat as ever before and after, it wasn't a training camp, it was just holiday. He knew he didn't need to be in shape, because he knew Wada would need at least 6 months before they couldn't deny any more that Povetkin is innocent.

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 24 Dec 2016, 17:00
by Tanzio
asdfjkl wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: That's exactly what I say? He's more fat then ever before here and he never became this fat ever since.
He talks specifically to that in the vid.
Exactly, like I said?! He was out of shape and more fat as ever before and after, it wasn't a training camp, it was just holiday. He knew he didn't need to be in shape, because he knew Wada would need at least 6 months before they couldn't deny any more that Povetkin is innocent.
You are thoroughly delusional.

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 24 Dec 2016, 17:22
by asdfjkl
Tanzio wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Tanzio wrote: He talks specifically to that in the vid.
Exactly, like I said?! He was out of shape and more fat as ever before and after, it wasn't a training camp, it was just holiday. He knew he didn't need to be in shape, because he knew Wada would need at least 6 months before they couldn't deny any more that Povetkin is innocent.
You are thoroughly delusional.
He even said it in the vid?! He has never been over 230 at a weight in, let alone 240 or 250?!

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 24 Dec 2016, 17:37
by jujigatame
LOL at that video being proof that he knew he wasn't going to fight Povetkin and that he was just vacationing in the UK for weeks and occasionally taking the time to make fake training videos to trick everyone.

I get it, Wilder is protected and his opponents have mostly been crap. That doesn't change the fact that you've gone right off the deep end into full retard territory.

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 24 Dec 2016, 17:39
by crusader
Are you actually taking his Wilder posts seriously? Just be like those of us who get a lighthearted laugh from them...

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 00:29
by Badhusker
asdfjkl wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FueUQRXwwnw

Judge for yourself, or show me any vid where he's even more fat as here.
Wtf are you talking about? The video is literally about his conscious weight gain, ffs. You need to buy a vowel dude.
That's exactly what I say? He's more fat then ever before here and he never became this fat ever since.
When Wilder gets as fat as the Pillsbury doughboy Povetkin, I will wave the red flag myself! I wonder what Povetkin would look like without PEDS? :OhYes:

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 00:55
by tiny_acres
Badhusker wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Tanzio wrote: Wtf are you talking about? The video is literally about his conscious weight gain, ffs. You need to buy a vowel dude.
That's exactly what I say? He's more fat then ever before here and he never became this fat ever since.
When Wilder gets as fat as the Pillsbury doughboy Povetkin, I will wave the red flag myself! I wonder what Povetkin would look like without PEDS? :OhYes:[/quote?

Damn if you think Wilder is fat then 95% of the forum must be morbidily obese.
I would love to be that fat

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 03:08
by asdfjkl
tiny_acres wrote:
Badhusker wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: That's exactly what I say? He's more fat then ever before here and he never became this fat ever since.
When Wilder gets as fat as the Pillsbury doughboy Povetkin, I will wave the red flag myself! I wonder what Povetkin would look like without PEDS? :OhYes:[/quote?

Damn if you think Wilder is fat then 95% of the forum must be morbidily obese.
I would love to be that fat
I haven't said that, I just said he was more fat then ever before as well as more fat then he has ever been since. Povetkin never took peds, so his looks are natural. He looks like his father, who wasn't even an athlete at all.

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 04:46
by zojo
Didn't Wilder just have bicep surgery?

If so, I have no gripe over this matchup.

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 09:11
by Badhusker
zojo, wrote:Didn't Wilder just have bicep surgery?

If so, I have no gripe over this matchup.

Yes. He also had surgery for a broken hand. Wawrzyk is supposed to be much improved since his lone loss 3 or 4 yrs ago. We'll see. Some seem to think he is a KO waiting to happen, so maybe it will happen. :KO:

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 18:31
by Boxing Writer
Wilder has advantage in every single component in this fight.

He is taller, has longer reach, is much more athletic and skilled, hits much harder, has better reflexes and much better chin (even if he doesn't have a good one himself). And don't bring Lewis - Rahman or Tyson - Douglas examples. Rahman at least could punch, Douglas could punch to an was very good boxer himself. Wawrzyk is neither a good boxer, nor hard puncher.

It's a complete mismatch just like Povetkin - Wawrzyk was.

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 19:37
by asdfjkl
Boxing Writer wrote:Wilder has advantage in every single component in this fight.

He is taller, has longer reach, is much more athletic and skilled, hits much harder, has better reflexes and much better chin (even if he doesn't have a good one himself). And don't bring Lewis - Rahman or Tyson - Douglas examples. Rahman at least could punch, Douglas could punch to an was very good boxer himself. Wawrzyk is neither a good boxer, nor hard puncher.

It's a complete mismatch just like Povetkin - Wawrzyk was.
It reminds me of Wilder - Szpilka, except that Szpilka at least was lefthanded, which made it at least a tiny bit odd and less predictable. Wawrzyk has absolutely 0 chance, he's basically a similar fighter, with all skills about 10 till 30% worse. Someone like Briggs at least has a punchers chance, but even that's not the case.

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 29 Dec 2016, 18:03
by punchoutsb
Fights in Alabama too :lol:

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 29 Dec 2016, 18:16
by Baby Face Finster
Bombzsquad is turning into Bumsquad.

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 29 Dec 2016, 18:17
by gilgamesh
Baby Face Finster wrote:Bombzsquad is turning into Bumsquad.
Turning into? That's all it's ever been

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 29 Dec 2016, 18:32
by asdfjkl
gilgamesh wrote:
Baby Face Finster wrote:Bombzsquad is turning into Bumsquad.
Turning into? That's all it's ever been
+1

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 29 Dec 2016, 18:37
by Impractical Poster
Stop Hatin gents. The best always get heat.

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 29 Dec 2016, 18:40
by punchoutsb
Impractical Poster wrote:Stop Hatin gents. The best always get heat.
The best also prove it.

It's not hate, IP. It's frustration over this charade and the fact that it has no end in sight.

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 29 Dec 2016, 18:44
by Impractical Poster
punchoutsb wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:Stop Hatin gents. The best always get heat.
The best also prove it.

It's not hate, IP. It's frustration over this charade and the fact that it has no end in sight.
I understand. And I'd like to see him fight some better guys as well. I just think the level of hate he gets is irrational. Dude tried to make the fights. He won the title last year. It's not like he's Sven Ottke.... yet. I'm sure had Povetkin passed his tests, the HW landscape would be looking a bit different right about now.

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 29 Dec 2016, 18:47
by crusader
Sven Ottke was an active champ who unified and fought better opposition than Wilder

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 29 Dec 2016, 18:51
by punchoutsb
Impractical Poster wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:Stop Hatin gents. The best always get heat.
The best also prove it.

It's not hate, IP. It's frustration over this charade and the fact that it has no end in sight.
I understand. And I'd like to see him fight some better guys as well. I just think the level of hate he gets is irrational. Dude tried to make the fights. He won the title last year. It's not like he's Sven Ottke.... yet. I'm sure had Povetkin passed his tests, the HW landscape would be looking a bit different right about now.
That's the other problem; he didn't.

OK, let's place the blame directly on Povetkin for everything. Why is Wilder and his teams mentality "We couldn't get the number one contender so let's take #47 instead". There are a lot of decent-to-good fighters around to day. "Champion" Wilder has somehow managed to miss them all. Compare Wilders path with the other "next big things" and really there is no comparison. He is either protecting himself or being protected by his team. All the evidence points that way.

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 29 Dec 2016, 21:06
by Impractical Poster
I was about to explain exactly what Deontay is about, but this poster from a rival site said it best...
Tyrone Biggums! wrote:Wilder right hand it like... you may as well sign up to take a bullet

I mean da bullet you got better survival odds. Like fiddy he got shot like 5 times and he live

But you take 5 wilder right hands. Oh it over mayne

It over

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 29 Dec 2016, 21:16
by Impractical Poster
punchoutsb wrote: That's the other problem; he didn't.

OK, let's place the blame directly on Povetkin for everything. Why is Wilder and his teams mentality "We couldn't get the number one contender so let's take #47 instead". There are a lot of decent-to-good fighters around to day. "Champion" Wilder has somehow managed to miss them all. Compare Wilders path with the other "next big things" and really there is no comparison. He is either protecting himself or being protected by his team. All the evidence points that way.
Honestly, I believe he is trying to secure a fight with one of the big dogs, and doesn't want to ruin it by losing to someone less, but dangerous. However, how certain are we that he didn't try to make fights with higher ranked fighters and they turned them down? A fight with Wlad, Povetkin, Ortiz, Fury would launch Deontay's selling power quite a bit. A loss to a relatively unknown 10-ish ranked fighter would stop any steam he has going.

Trust me, I don't care for it, but he's not ducking every one. I just laugh at some of the comments I read. It's going to be a real thorn in the side of most folks on here if Deontay ends up starching some top competition.

Hopefully we get to see those match-ups.... sooner than later.

Re: Wilder vs Wawrzyk

Posted: 29 Dec 2016, 21:42
by punchoutsb
Impractical Poster wrote:
punchoutsb wrote: That's the other problem; he didn't.

OK, let's place the blame directly on Povetkin for everything. Why is Wilder and his teams mentality "We couldn't get the number one contender so let's take #47 instead". There are a lot of decent-to-good fighters around to day. "Champion" Wilder has somehow managed to miss them all. Compare Wilders path with the other "next big things" and really there is no comparison. He is either protecting himself or being protected by his team. All the evidence points that way.
Honestly, I believe he is trying to secure a fight with one of the big dogs, and doesn't want to ruin it by losing to someone less, but dangerous. However, how certain are we that he didn't try to make fights with higher ranked fighters and they turned them down? A fight with Wlad, Povetkin, Ortiz, Fury would launch Deontay's selling power quite a bit. A loss to a relatively unknown 10-ish ranked fighter would stop any steam he has going.

Trust me, I don't care for it, but he's not ducking every one. I just laugh at some of the comments I read. It's going to be a real thorn in the side of most folks on here if Deontay ends up starching some top competition.

Hopefully we get to see those match-ups.... sooner than later.
I agree, I just have seen no evidence at all that Wilder wants any big fights. He always seems to fight D or C level fringe contenders...nobody better than Andrej Wawrzyk wanted this fight? I don't believe that.

I also agree that some peoples comments are hyperbolic and paint pictures of worldwide conspiracies etc. At the end of the day I just want to see Wilder fight and defend his as of now phony title against a legitimate opponent. Joshua has found a way to do it, Parker found a way to fight a fellow undefeated prospect, Fury found a way to do it. Wilder has more fights than all of them and still has not. That speaks volumes. If he steps up and wins, I will be the first to celebrate because I love big punching, legit heavyweights.