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Tuan_Jim wrote:It's worth pointing out that Haye was knackered and at one point staggered drunkenly around the ring. He looked spent for several rounds. You can't blame the result purely on his injury. There was the matter of fitness. 36 and with a couple of can jobs in 6 years. He wasn't prepared for a Bellew that could withstand the first volleys of big punches and prolong the fight. A lot of you sound as if you're in denial.

x2, you can't have so long out of the game,come back and beat 2 puddings and then expect to ko a current world champion in 1 or 2 rounds,Haye clearly underestimated Bellew and paid the price.

the golden vision wrote:Bellew knocked him clean out the ring in his own backyard, it was a beautiful sight. Haye's pre fight antics came back to haunt. He writ him off, many on here did, Bellew won, simple. Respect to the current world champion, that was a joy to behold.

It seems that Miami training camp worked a treat.

What next? In the rematch, someone in the crowd shoots Haye in a knee cap... He bravely continues on but goes down with a weak punch as he can no longer stand. Another 'stunning' victory for Bellew

the golden vision wrote:Bellew knocked him clean out the ring in his own backyard, it was a beautiful sight. Haye's pre fight antics came back to haunt. He writ him off, many on here did, Bellew won, simple. Respect to the current world champion, that was a joy to behold.

It seems that Miami training camp worked a treat.

I've read some crap in my time............

Shouldn't this have been posted in current scene?

forcefraser wrote:I've read some crap in my time............

Shouldn't this have been posted in current scene?

It was a good post.

Too many Bellew haters and Haye worshippers on here.

Horse wrote:

davie wrote:But if anyone thinks that win wasn't entirely down to an ankle injury they're wired to the bloody moon.

It wasn't.

I disagree

without the injury Haye would have won.

rhino222 wrote:

Horse wrote:

davie wrote:But if anyone thinks that win wasn't entirely down to an ankle injury they're wired to the bloody moon.

It wasn't.

I disagree

without the injury Haye would have won.

would have,could have,should have,what should have happened is that Haye ko'd him as and when he felt like,but failed.

I have just heard a report on Radio 4 that announced Bellew's victory, found time to announce that Bellew claims he broke his hand, but made absolutely no mention of Haye's injury. Nothing at all. What on earth is going on?

gp. wrote:I have just heard a report on Radio 4 that announced Bellew's victory, found time to announce that Bellew claims he broke his hand, but made absolutely no mention of Haye's injury. Nothing at all. What on earth is going on?

Mmm. There's pretty much a conspiracy of silence to hide the fact that Haye went in knowingly injured and Bellew could barely even finish a one legged man in agony.

I read a report this morning saying Haye had surgery last night.

Tuan_Jim wrote:It's worth pointing out that Haye was knackered and at one point staggered drunkenly around the ring. He looked spent for several rounds. You can't blame the result purely on his injury. There was the matter of fitness. 36 and with a couple of can jobs in 6 years. He wasn't prepared for a Bellew that could withstand the first volleys of big punches and prolong the fight. A lot of you sound as if you're in denial.

At what point was this? After he aggravated an injury that has a major impact on balance?

It's pure nonsense to dismiss the injury, and in the case of some loons, to insinuate that it didn't occur. If someone actually watched the fight they should be able to see very clearly that the leg gave out suddenly in the 6th, at which point Haye was ahead multiple rounds and showing no signs of slowing; in fact, he was starting to land more over the 4th and 5th while Bellew was looking increasingly weary. As soon as the leg went the fight changed drastically, which is a very strong indication that Haye being on one leg was responsible for the shift.

Even after that he didn't look any more gassed than Bellew, though his balance was clearly shot.

Counter-puncher wrote:

gp. wrote:I have just heard a report on Radio 4 that announced Bellew's victory, found time to announce that Bellew claims he broke his hand, but made absolutely no mention of Haye's injury. Nothing at all. What on earth is going on?

Mmm. There's pretty much a conspiracy of silence to hide the fact that Haye went in knowingly injured and Bellew could barely even finish a one legged man in agony.

I think the problem is that Haye chose not to mention the injury in his post match interview, probably reasoning that it was so obvious that he didn't have to mention it, people could see for themselves.

However that's not the world we live in now. Facts don't matter. What people can see and what can be proved doesn't matter, and most people can't make any decisions for themselves. The truth is determined by whoever shouts the loudest and won't shut up.

At what point was this? After he aggravated an injury that has a major impact on balance?

It's pure nonsense to dismiss the injury, and in the case of some loons, to insinuate that it didn't occur. If someone actually watched the fight they should be able to see very clearly that the leg gave out suddenly in the 6th, at which point Haye was ahead multiple rounds and showing no signs of slowing; in fact, he was starting to land more over the 4th and 5th while Bellew was looking increasingly weary. As soon as the leg went the fight changed drastically, which is a very strong indication that Haye being on one leg was responsible for the shift.

Even after that he didn't look any more gassed than Bellew, though his balance was clearly shot.[/quote]

This post is bang on. The trolls are having there day in the sun, but the vast majority are lapping this up and disregarding this injury that was obviously there from the off, it's frustrating me so much, how can Bellew have become a PPV star from this!? Just hope the Boxing Asylum drop some truth bombs about that fight tonight because some of the posts on here and CHB are mind numbing and ridiculous

gp. wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

gp. wrote:I have just heard a report on Radio 4 that announced Bellew's victory, found time to announce that Bellew claims he broke his hand, but made absolutely no mention of Haye's injury. Nothing at all. What on earth is going on?

Mmm. There's pretty much a conspiracy of silence to hide the fact that Haye went in knowingly injured and Bellew could barely even finish a one legged man in agony.

I think the problem is that Haye chose not to mention the injury in his post match interview, probably reasoning that it was so obvious that he didn't have to mention it, people could see for themselves.

However that's not the world we live in now. Facts don't matter. What people can see and what can be proved doesn't matter, and most people can't make any decisions for themselves. The truth is determined by whoever shouts the loudest and won't shut up.

What are you whingeing about? BBC red button report states achilles injury. Sky News say clearly he injured his achilles in the 6th before being knocked down. Sounds like facts don't matter to you. Or the slightest bit of research.

Good news is that Haye has left hospital. I know he was talking about hospitals a lot before the fight.

Tuan_Jim wrote:

gp. wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:
Mmm. There's pretty much a conspiracy of silence to hide the fact that Haye went in knowingly injured and Bellew could barely even finish a one legged man in agony.

I think the problem is that Haye chose not to mention the injury in his post match interview, probably reasoning that it was so obvious that he didn't have to mention it, people could see for themselves.

However that's not the world we live in now. Facts don't matter. What people can see and what can be proved doesn't matter, and most people can't make any decisions for themselves. The truth is determined by whoever shouts the loudest and won't shut up.

What are you whingeing about? BBC red button report states achilles injury. Sky News say clearly he injured his achilles in the 6th before being knocked down. Sounds like facts don't matter to you. Or the slightest bit of research.

Good news is that Haye has left hospital. I know he was talking about hospitals a lot before the fight.

The fact that some sources are correct doesn't excuse the sources that are wrong. Now, why don't you fornicate off instead of accusing people of whinging, you pudendum.

Hinchy70 wrote:

Deserter wrote:

Hinchy70 wrote:

Based on what exactly? I'm seen or heard zero evidence of that and find it pretty implausible to be frank. i know he lost some money in a gym venture here, but there were other ine vestors so I'm not sure on the level of personal exposure.
He's earned well from his fights, sponsorship and TV, and I'd genuinely be shocked if he's burnt through it all. Though if he has, I wouldn't include him in the ranks of fighters who need or deserve support post-career.

It's been the Underlying tone of Hearn and Bellew's comments for weeks prior to the fight, spinning the fight that Haye isn't in it for the glory and adulation, where as Bellew is (every one knows it's a cash grab)
And if the rhetoric was true then he would have needed support mentally, something to focus himself on, rather than strip clubs as the Bellew rhetoric claimed

I know it has been, but what I'm saying is there's zero evidence to substantiate that belief to date.

Interestingly my mom just texted me, did I know the winner last night had a broken hand?

Clearly the media angle hasn't all been mentioning Hayes injury

lillywhite14 wrote:

bigjack wrote:

lillywhite14 wrote:
Because he had one leg!

This win is as relevant as Charles Martins over Glazkov or Chris Byrds over Vitali.

Had no interest in this circus from the off and the fight itself and result and subsequent fall out sums the whole charade up!

He had 2 legs up until the 6th and failed to badly hurt or ko Bellew despite all the experts claming he would get stopped in 1 or 2 rounds max.

You believe he didn't have an injury going in to the fight? It's a bit of a coincidence that he flew to Germany days before the fight to see a doctor who specialises in leg injuries and then he "suddenly" injures his leg in the 6th?

I suspect he started with the injury and it got considerably worse during the fight.

This is definitely what happened. It was well known he had serious problems going into the fight but after his previous pull outs due to injuries there was no way he was going to do that .

Haye's leg very clearly gave out as he bounced back after throwing a combo. Bellew was still doing pretty much nothing but covering up at that point.

I caught this in real time and thought it would be evident to anyone watching.

https://twitter.com/jwhjake/status/8381 ... 68/video/1