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According to Talksport the fight is in danger of collapsing. Povetkin has been made mandatory WBA and that could go ahead instead.

mimmy123 wrote: ↑03 Jan 2018, 14:15 According to Talksport the fight is in danger of collapsing. Povetkin has been made mandatory WBA and that could go ahead instead.

I thought there was wiggle room because it is a unification bout and both combatants have forfilled their mandatory obligations within the last 5 months?
I'm sure that the promotion of Povitkin to #1 mandatory can wait until after March?

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Jan 2018, 14:53

mimmy123 wrote: ↑03 Jan 2018, 14:15 According to Talksport the fight is in danger of collapsing. Povetkin has been made mandatory WBA and that could go ahead instead.

I thought there was wiggle room because it is a unification bout and both combatants have forfilled their mandatory obligations within the last 5 months?
I'm sure that the promotion of Povitkin to #1 mandatory can wait until after March?

It sounds like Parker is wanting more cake.

mimmy123 wrote: ↑03 Jan 2018, 14:15 According to Talksport the fight is in danger of collapsing. Povetkin has been made mandatory WBA and that could go ahead instead.

Is it in danger of collapsing because Povetkin has been made mandatory or some other reason?

Taansend wrote: ↑03 Jan 2018, 14:57

mimmy123 wrote: ↑03 Jan 2018, 14:15 According to Talksport the fight is in danger of collapsing. Povetkin has been made mandatory WBA and that could go ahead instead.

Is it in danger of collapsing because Povetkin has been made mandatory or some other reason?

Talksport didnt say. But sounds like Parker is wanting more money. I think Povetkin is just an alternative fight if parker collapses.

mimmy123 wrote: ↑03 Jan 2018, 14:59

Taansend wrote: ↑03 Jan 2018, 14:57

mimmy123 wrote: ↑03 Jan 2018, 14:15 According to Talksport the fight is in danger of collapsing. Povetkin has been made mandatory WBA and that could go ahead instead.

Is it in danger of collapsing because Povetkin has been made mandatory or some other reason?

Talksport didnt say. But sounds like Parker is wanting more money. I think Povetkin is just an alternative fight if parker collapses.

Ah, I can understand that. A back up plan just like Takem. Eddie covering his bases like a good business man.

The total purse for Joshua v Klitschko was 30 million quid which they split down the middle.

Joshua Takam was 20 mill, which was split 75%-25%

This purse has to be at least 25 million so even if Parker gets 30% (he's getting slightly more) he'll be on at least 7.5 million.

He got 1.1 million for fighting Hughie Fury. So he's at least getting 7 times more than his previous highest purse PLUS 55% if he wins & they have a rematch. Which will be worth at least 20 million.

And he's squabbling over another percent or two

If I've got any figures wrong I'll happily stand corrected.

Taansend wrote: ↑03 Jan 2018, 16:03 The total purse for Joshua v Klitschko was 30 million quid which they split down the middle.

Joshua Takam was 20 mill, which was split 75%-25%

This purse has to be at least 25 million so even if Parker gets 30% (he's getting slightly more) he'll be on at least 7.5 million.

He got 1.1 million for fighting Hughie Fury. So he's at least getting 7 times more than his previous highest purse PLUS 55% if he wins & they have a rematch. Which will be worth at least 20 million.

And he's squabbling over another percent or two

If I've got any figures wrong I'll happily stand corrected.

Nope, from what I know your right. Factor in Parker losing his belt and not being able to recapture one from either Wilder or Joshua. This payday is important because it might be his last big one. So efforts to maximise his returns are the career hail mary.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Jan 2018, 16:14

Taansend wrote: ↑03 Jan 2018, 16:03 The total purse for Joshua v Klitschko was 30 million quid which they split down the middle.

Joshua Takam was 20 mill, which was split 75%-25%

This purse has to be at least 25 million so even if Parker gets 30% (he's getting slightly more) he'll be on at least 7.5 million.

He got 1.1 million for fighting Hughie Fury. So he's at least getting 7 times more than his previous highest purse PLUS 55% if he wins & they have a rematch. Which will be worth at least 20 million.

And he's squabbling over another percent or two

If I've got any figures wrong I'll happily stand corrected.

Nope, from what I know your right. Factor in Parker losing his belt and not being able to recapture one from either Wilder or Joshua. This payday is important because it might be his last big one. So efforts to maximise his returns are the career hail mary.

I think, win or lose, Parker will be around for quite a few years.

Taansend wrote: ↑03 Jan 2018, 16:32

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Jan 2018, 16:14

Taansend wrote: ↑03 Jan 2018, 16:03 The total purse for Joshua v Klitschko was 30 million quid which they split down the middle.

Joshua Takam was 20 mill, which was split 75%-25%

This purse has to be at least 25 million so even if Parker gets 30% (he's getting slightly more) he'll be on at least 7.5 million.

He got 1.1 million for fighting Hughie Fury. So he's at least getting 7 times more than his previous highest purse PLUS 55% if he wins & they have a rematch. Which will be worth at least 20 million.

And he's squabbling over another percent or two

If I've got any figures wrong I'll happily stand corrected.

Nope, from what I know your right. Factor in Parker losing his belt and not being able to recapture one from either Wilder or Joshua. This payday is important because it might be his last big one. So efforts to maximise his returns are the career hail mary.

I think, win or lose, Parker will be around for quite a few years.

Oh for sure, Parker will be around for as long as he wants to be. It's just that when (if) his belt goes, getting one back now is a much harder road than he had, and is capable of.
Nice little nothing fights in NZ or Oz, nettig him a million a pop for as long as he wants. It's just this fight is his one big chance for a score very few boxers get in a whole career. Good on him and his unconventional ( but savvy) management/promotional people

jamamb wrote: ↑03 Jan 2018, 05:06 aj lost maybe 1 round vs takam and hurt him a few times and dropped him. how da eff r u going to use that as evidence for a parker win when joe lost like 5 rounds and couldnt budge the same guy

The only interesting thing in this particular debate is that Joshua dropping Takam and winning every round is used as evidence for him not being that good.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Jan 2018, 16:14

Taansend wrote: ↑03 Jan 2018, 16:03 The total purse for Joshua v Klitschko was 30 million quid which they split down the middle.

Joshua Takam was 20 mill, which was split 75%-25%

This purse has to be at least 25 million so even if Parker gets 30% (he's getting slightly more) he'll be on at least 7.5 million.

He got 1.1 million for fighting Hughie Fury. So he's at least getting 7 times more than his previous highest purse PLUS 55% if he wins & they have a rematch. Which will be worth at least 20 million.

And he's squabbling over another percent or two

If I've got any figures wrong I'll happily stand corrected.

Nope, from what I know your right. Factor in Parker losing his belt and not being able to recapture one from either Wilder or Joshua. This payday is important because it might be his last big one. So efforts to maximise his returns are the career hail mary.

I look at this as a game of probabilities. Career jackpot for Parker is win against Joshua and then take the rematch. But the chances of that are slim to say the least.

So, in round figures, he can earn approx 1m per fight in NZ defending his belt or in Hughie Fury style fights. Or 7m losing against Joshua. My question would be is it more or less likely that before he gets to seven Hughie wins he actually loses along the way.

So if that seems more likely to happen than Parker racking up a further seven consecutive defences, he may as well take the Joshua fight now. Nothing he's shown so far suggests to me that Parker is a long term champion.

wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑08 Jan 2018, 08:54

Thank god for that, get the fight deal signed and sorted.

mimmy123 wrote: ↑08 Jan 2018, 09:01Thank god for that, get the fight deal signed and sorted.

yep, its dragging on abit now. Needs to get signed and announced.

Ring Magazine could potentially be on the line also.

wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑08 Jan 2018, 10:30

mimmy123 wrote: ↑08 Jan 2018, 09:01Thank god for that, get the fight deal signed and sorted.

yep, its dragging on abit now. Needs to get signed and announced.

Ring Magazine could potentially be on the line also.

This Ring title? I know about the magazine but whats the title worth? Is it just a honorary thing, if so how does one boxer earn it?

Can you fight for the title or not?

mimmy123 wrote: ↑08 Jan 2018, 12:03

wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑08 Jan 2018, 10:30

mimmy123 wrote: ↑08 Jan 2018, 09:01Thank god for that, get the fight deal signed and sorted.

yep, its dragging on abit now. Needs to get signed and announced.

Ring Magazine could potentially be on the line also.

This Ring title? I know about the magazine but whats the title worth? Is it just a honorary thing, if so how does one boxer earn it?

Can you fight for the title or not?

It's not an honorary title. It's a normal world title. Has been around for nearly 100 years. It does have special requirements when defending it. Stevenson was stripped of his title because he wasn't defending it against decent opponents. If it's a vacant title, its usually between the top 5 ranked, when and if they fight each other. e.g. When Crawford fought Postol. It was basically #1 vs. #2.. so the Ring put their on the line.

Is there anything specific about Feb 1 for Fury being stripped?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑08 Jan 2018, 12:13

mimmy123 wrote: ↑08 Jan 2018, 12:03

wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑08 Jan 2018, 10:30
yep, its dragging on abit now. Needs to get signed and announced.

Ring Magazine could potentially be on the line also.

This Ring title? I know about the magazine but whats the title worth? Is it just a honorary thing, if so how does one boxer earn it?

Can you fight for the title or not?

It's not an honorary title. It's a normal world title. Has been around for nearly 100 years. It does have special requirements when defending it. Stevenson was stripped of his title because he wasn't defending it against decent opponents. If it's a vacant title, its usually between the top 5 ranked, when and if they fight each other. e.g. When Crawford fought Postol. It was basically #1 vs. #2.. so the Ring put their on the line.

So apart from the 2 names above, who else has had a fight for The ring title only? no other titles at stake?

mimmy123 wrote: ↑08 Jan 2018, 12:43

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑08 Jan 2018, 12:13

mimmy123 wrote: ↑08 Jan 2018, 12:03

This Ring title? I know about the magazine but whats the title worth? Is it just a honorary thing, if so how does one boxer earn it?

Can you fight for the title or not?

It's not an honorary title. It's a normal world title. Has been around for nearly 100 years. It does have special requirements when defending it. Stevenson was stripped of his title because he wasn't defending it against decent opponents. If it's a vacant title, its usually between the top 5 ranked, when and if they fight each other. e.g. When Crawford fought Postol. It was basically #1 vs. #2.. so the Ring put their on the line.

So apart from the 2 names above, who else has had a fight for The ring title only? no other titles at stake?

Not sure about no other titles at stake. It's usually champions that are ranked highly. The Ring put their vacant title at stake for Ward vs. Kovalev II.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑08 Jan 2018, 12:46

mimmy123 wrote: ↑08 Jan 2018, 12:43

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑08 Jan 2018, 12:13

It's not an honorary title. It's a normal world title. Has been around for nearly 100 years. It does have special requirements when defending it. Stevenson was stripped of his title because he wasn't defending it against decent opponents. If it's a vacant title, its usually between the top 5 ranked, when and if they fight each other. e.g. When Crawford fought Postol. It was basically #1 vs. #2.. so the Ring put their on the line.

So apart from the 2 names above, who else has had a fight for The ring title only? no other titles at stake?

Not sure about no other titles at stake. It's usually champions that are ranked highly. The Ring put their vacant title at stake for Ward vs. Kovalev II.

Apart from Tyson fury who else from the UK has held it in recent times?

Im sure Lennox Lewis did.