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Grilling Machine wrote:

ACasualFan wrote:

Grilling Machine wrote:I'd have flown back and taken Wlad out with a devastating kick as my legs swung up over the ropes. Double KO.

Then I'd call out Wilder.

I've been reading these boards for a while now but this post genuinely made me giggle at my desk like a little girl. So much so I had to create an account just to congratulate you

Ha! Welcome aboard, mate.

If you don't mind the odd bit of umbrage around the place, it's a decent forum.

asdfjkl wrote:

Dixonian wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: It's not about me, it's about the top of the world, I like Formula 1 also above Formula 3, I like the Olympics above the Paralympics.
I like the champions league above the Jupiler league and I also like the heavyweights above the lower leagues and if I have the feeling I can even beat such world champions then I'm not interested at all.

Maiva Hamadouche and Anahi Esther Sanchez (boxrec rank 2 and 3 of the world) are going to fight for the super featherweight title, nobody on this forum talks about them?!
Cecilia Braekhus and Erica Anabella Farias (rank 1 Welterweight and rank 1 super lightweight, 30-0 and 24-1) are going to fight each other for:
WBC World female welterweight title
WBA World female welterweight title
IBF World female welterweight title
WBO World female welterweight title
International Boxing Organization World female welterweight title

Nobody on this forum mentioned them, are they the strongest of the world? No ofcourse not, not even close, Anthony Joshua is probably the best boxer on the planet and that's why I support him. If you're the best boxer of the world with some kind of special limits, then that's oke, but I'm not a fan of that. Just like I think AJ would lose a kickboxing match against Rico Verhoeven, because he's not into such things.
I think even Klitschko would win a kickboxing match against Joshua, somehow boxing is simply a lot bigger moneywise on this planet.

You haven't answered the question: which division's current world champions do you think you can beat?

Under featherweight should be doable, perhaps till lightweight with a lucky hit, above that are probably to good.
Somehow the chances that a featherweight would beat a top 10 lightweight while both stay their own weight is, according to me, nearly impossible.
Also, please realise that this is not about me, it's about what weightclasses I'm fan of and that's the heavyweights, since they dominate all other weightclasses easely.

For me Wilder is a bumfighter, someone who isn't a top 3 heavyweight, for me Bellew is a top cruiserweight, somehow I think the odds of Bellew winning against Wilder is 50% at max.

danconnollyeire wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

Dixonian wrote:
You haven't answered the question: which division's current world champions do you think you can beat?

Under featherweight should be doable, perhaps till lightweight with a lucky hit, above that are probably to good.
Somehow the chances that a featherweight would beat a top 10 lightweight while both stay their own weight is, according to me, nearly impossible.
Also, please realise that this is not about me, it's about what weightclasses I'm fan of and that's the heavyweights, since they dominate all other weightclasses easely.

For me Wilder is a bumfighter, someone who isn't a top 3 heavyweight, for me Bellew is a top cruiserweight, somehow I think the odds of Bellew winning against Wilder is 50% at max.

LOL mental, absolutely mental

boxingknockout wrote:

danconnollyeire wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: Under featherweight should be doable, perhaps till lightweight with a lucky hit, above that are probably to good.
Somehow the chances that a featherweight would beat a top 10 lightweight while both stay their own weight is, according to me, nearly impossible.
Also, please realise that this is not about me, it's about what weightclasses I'm fan of and that's the heavyweights, since they dominate all other weightclasses easely.

For me Wilder is a bumfighter, someone who isn't a top 3 heavyweight, for me Bellew is a top cruiserweight, somehow I think the odds of Bellew winning against Wilder is 50% at max.

LOL mental, absolutely mental

I can understand something of the Dutchman's argument.... but I think that he'd be surprised at how hard world class lightweights and feathers can hit. Unless he has significant fighting experience, I think Gatti, Ward, Naseem etc would level him out without too much trouble.

asdfjkl wrote:

boxingknockout wrote:

danconnollyeire wrote:
LOL mental, absolutely mental

I can understand something of the Dutchman's argument.... but I think that he'd be surprised at how hard world class lightweights and feathers can hit. Unless he has significant fighting experience, I think Gatti, Ward, Naseem etc would level him out without too much trouble.

This is what I'm talking about:


Fury won because he's big, not because he's a superior athlete.

Loynesy wrote:And if the big guy on the left was not an experienced boxer, he would have his ribs broken in less than a second by Paddy Barnes.

asdfjkl wrote:

boxingknockout wrote:

danconnollyeire wrote:
LOL mental, absolutely mental

I can understand something of the Dutchman's argument.... but I think that he'd be surprised at how hard world class lightweights and feathers can hit. Unless he has significant fighting experience, I think Gatti, Ward, Naseem etc would level him out without too much trouble.

This is what I'm talking about:


Fury won because he's big, not because he's a superior athlete.

boxingknockout wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

boxingknockout wrote:
I can understand something of the Dutchman's argument.... but I think that he'd be surprised at how hard world class lightweights and feathers can hit. Unless he has significant fighting experience, I think Gatti, Ward, Naseem etc would level him out without too much trouble.

This is what I'm talking about:


Fury won because he's big, not because he's a superior athlete.

When did Fury fight Paddy Barnes? Can't believe the BBBoC allowed it

Dixonian wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

boxingknockout wrote:
I can understand something of the Dutchman's argument.... but I think that he'd be surprised at how hard world class lightweights and feathers can hit. Unless he has significant fighting experience, I think Gatti, Ward, Naseem etc would level him out without too much trouble.

This is what I'm talking about:


Fury won because he's big, not because he's a superior athlete.

You're not Tyson Fury.

asdfjkl wrote:

Dixonian wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: This is what I'm talking about:


Fury won because he's big, not because he's a superior athlete.

You're not Tyson Fury.

No lol, but if I would fight even smaller guys it's obvious I have the odds.

asdfjkl wrote:

Dixonian wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: This is what I'm talking about:


Fury won because he's big, not because he's a superior athlete.

You're not Tyson Fury.

No lol, but if I would fight even smaller guys it's obvious I have the odds.

Dixonian wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

Dixonian wrote:
You're not Tyson Fury.

No lol, but if I would fight even smaller guys it's obvious I have the odds.

He's 5,4 and a bantamweight. It seems you're targeting the world champs beneath bantamweight now? So, super-fly and below watch out: a Dutch light heavyweight with no boxing experience is coming after you!

Stuarty30 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

Dixonian wrote:
You're not Tyson Fury.

No lol, but if I would fight even smaller guys it's obvious I have the odds.

Have you not seen the Dutch amateur Hertz Van Rental yet? He's got some power. Really drives the shots home. Great engine and goes through the gears with ease.

asdfjkl wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: No lol, but if I would fight even smaller guys it's obvious I have the odds.

Have you not seen the Dutch amateur Hertz Van Rental yet? He's got some power. Really drives the shots home. Great engine and goes through the gears with ease.

Nope, I bet you're heavely amazed by such guys, but in the Netherlands we're not.
The Dutch are the tallest nation in the world, there's a reason Tyson Fury trained in the Netherlands, there's a reason Wladimir didn't have a chance agains Tyson Fury (and TBH even I was amazed how easely Tyson dominated him) and there's a reason the Dutch dominate the heavyweight kickboxing leagues for several decades in a row now.

Rob3_142 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:
Have you not seen the Dutch amateur Hertz Van Rental yet? He's got some power. Really drives the shots home. Great engine and goes through the gears with ease.

Nope, I bet you're heavely amazed by such guys, but in the Netherlands we're not.
The Dutch are the tallest nation in the world, there's a reason Tyson Fury trained in the Netherlands, there's a reason Wladimir didn't have a chance agains Tyson Fury (and TBH even I was amazed how easely Tyson dominated him) and there's a reason the Dutch dominate the heavyweight kickboxing leagues for several decades in a row now.

But they never produce any heavyweight superstars in boxing?

asdfjkl wrote:

Rob3_142 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: Nope, I bet you're heavely amazed by such guys, but in the Netherlands we're not.
The Dutch are the tallest nation in the world, there's a reason Tyson Fury trained in the Netherlands, there's a reason Wladimir didn't have a chance agains Tyson Fury (and TBH even I was amazed how easely Tyson dominated him) and there's a reason the Dutch dominate the heavyweight kickboxing leagues for several decades in a row now.

But they never produce any heavyweight superstars in boxing?

We don't, or barely do boxing, only Tyrone does, but all the top contenders from other countries simply avoid fighting him.

Rob3_142 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

Rob3_142 wrote:
But they never produce any heavyweight superstars in boxing?

We don't, or barely do boxing, only Tyrone does, but all the top contenders from other countries simply avoid fighting him.

Tyrone is only 6'2 and is a comparative midget to the elite in the division. He's also 31. There isn't really a great deal of value in it.

Rob3_142 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

Rob3_142 wrote:
But they never produce any heavyweight superstars in boxing?

We don't, or barely do boxing, only Tyrone does, but all the top contenders from other countries simply avoid fighting him.

Tyrone is only 6'2 and is a comparative midget to the elite in the division. He's also 31. There isn't really a great deal of value in it.

asdfjkl wrote:I don't understand that this guy keeps on having fans. Daffy is a complete lunatic, got destroyed by that guy that isn't even a real cruiserweight, and now says Joshua his defence isn't as good as his is , Joshua has barely been hit at all in his first 13 matches.

Dixonian wrote:

Rob3_142 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: We don't, or barely do boxing, only Tyrone does, but all the top contenders from other countries simply avoid fighting him.

Tyrone is only 6'2 and is a comparative midget to the elite in the division. He's also 31. There isn't really a great deal of value in it.

Tyrone belongs in one of the baby leagues.

Fyodor Jung wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:I don't understand that this guy keeps on having fans. Daffy is a complete lunatic, got destroyed by that guy that isn't even a real cruiserweight, and now says Joshua his defence isn't as good as his is , Joshua has barely been hit at all in his first 13 matches.

Got to be honest, I'm not the most knowledgeable of boxing fans and the sport is relatively new too me in terms of keeping my eye on it and watching the fights anytime I can; but this post stinks to high heaven? if Tony Bellew destroyed Haye then I'll give up watching now.

asdfjkl wrote:

Fyodor Jung wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:I don't understand that this guy keeps on having fans. Daffy is a complete lunatic, got destroyed by that guy that isn't even a real cruiserweight, and now says Joshua his defence isn't as good as his is , Joshua has barely been hit at all in his first 13 matches.

Got to be honest, I'm not the most knowledgeable of boxing fans and the sport is relatively new too me in terms of keeping my eye on it and watching the fights anytime I can; but this post stinks to high heaven? if Tony Bellew destroyed Haye then I'll give up watching now.

Daffy was pretty destroyed, even his legs were destroyed.