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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It was brutal, Atlas alternated between calling him The Matrix, David Copperfield and Frank Sinatra. Tessatore was talking about Floyd being strictly a defensive fighter. Granted, he never had a title fight against opposition this weak at 130, but he certainly would have ended that fight sooner if he did.

greg wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He really does, perched on top of his giraffe neck. He reminds me of some cartoon character that I can't place right now.

woody the woodpecker?

Boxing Writer wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It was brutal, Atlas alternated between calling him The Matrix, David Copperfield and Frank Sinatra. Tessatore was talking about Floyd being strictly a defensive fighter. Granted, he never had a title fight against opposition this weak at 130, but he certainly would have ended that fight sooner if he did.

That's not true at all. How about Justin Juuko? Like Marriaga he was coming to the title fight after the loss, but against MUCH weaker opponent than Oscar Valdez (49-22 Antonio Hernandez). Oh yeah, and it was a stoppage loss. And his another loss was a TKO2 loss to the fighter that ended his career with 27-18-2 record. Marriaga also had two losses, but in both those losses he went the distance against top opponents. Marriaga is better than Juuko. And Floyd needed more time to stop Juuko, who was well known for his glass jaw, than Loma needed to stop Marriaga, who was never stopped before.

Carlos Gerena wan't any better than Marriaga as well, and Floyd won that fight exactly like Lomachenko did today - corner stoppage after 7 rounds.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Yeah, the announcers are what did it for me. First on HBO, then ESPN took it up several levels. The showboating will always bother many.

Blodhemn wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Yeah, the announcers are what did it for me. First on HBO, then ESPN took it up several levels. The showboating will always bother many.

Just scanned through the fight. Reminds me why I never cared for ESPN cards, Testicletorre with his faux enthusiasm and Atlas being goofy, although less negative than usual. I bet him having Loma over Crawford P4P was the last straw for you. As for the showboating, I've never cared for it but much of the time it seems to be in response to his opponents not fighting, so I can't really care too much.

Ossyrules wrote:I'd call Garcia vs Loma close to 50/50, maybe slightly favouring the bigger man Garcia to make over power the more skilful smaller man in the championship rounds

Impractical Poster wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:I'd call Garcia vs Loma close to 50/50, maybe slightly favouring the bigger man Garcia to make over power the more skilful smaller man in the championship rounds

I don't know man. I am a huge Garcia fan. He is my favorite fighter. But, in the 20+ years that I've been following the sport, Lomachenko is the best I've seen. He is superb.

Sequitorian wrote:

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Sequitorian wrote:
I'd be interested in what their respective hat sizes are ...

It's not just that, look at their chests. Garcia is huge in comparison.

Garcia looks like he could swallow Loma whole, chew him up and spit him out ... (which he probably will) ...

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He really does, perched on top of his giraffe neck. He reminds me of some cartoon character that I can't place right now.

HyacinthusTurnipseed wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He really does, perched on top of his giraffe neck. He reminds me of some cartoon character that I can't place right now.

Quagmire?

Tanzio wrote:

crusader wrote:He was toying with him and didnt lose 15 seconds of that fight. Punishment? He got hit with pretty much nothing meaningful. Hes just one of those guys who marks up.

If he fights Mikey at 135 in the next year he will get torn up.

boxing_rocks wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

crusader wrote:He was toying with him and didnt lose 15 seconds of that fight. Punishment? He got hit with pretty much nothing meaningful. Hes just one of those guys who marks up.

If he fights Mikey at 135 in the next year he will get torn up.

Mikey will.

Tanzio wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:For the record. The Tapping on the head thing Loma does, I don't care for, but I was amused at the moment he backed himself into a corner and dared Marriaga to come in and attack him. I've never seen that before.

Lomassiah got nailed hard playing that game in the corner.

Btw, Stephen A Smith is embarrassing as a boxing analyst.

boxing_rocks wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:For the record. The Tapping on the head thing Loma does, I don't care for, but I was amused at the moment he backed himself into a corner and dared Marriaga to come in and attack him. I've never seen that before.

Lomassiah got nailed hard playing that game in the corner.

Btw, Stephen A Smith is embarrassing as a boxing analyst.

Loma will likely not play with Mikey. Also, Mikey doesn't move his head and body as well as Marriaga, nowhere close. That movement was a key to Marriaga looking game for a while.

Tanzio wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

Tanzio wrote: Lomassiah got nailed hard playing that game in the corner.

Btw, Stephen A Smith is embarrassing as a boxing analyst.

Loma will likely not play with Mikey. Also, Mikey doesn't move his head and body as well as Marriaga, nowhere close. That movement was a key to Marriaga looking game for a while.

Mikey does nothing that is not necessary. He moves his head enough. He feints enough. He throws enough.

I have never seen Mikey miss as much as Lomassiah missed last night.

boxing_rocks wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
Loma will likely not play with Mikey. Also, Mikey doesn't move his head and body as well as Marriaga, nowhere close. That movement was a key to Marriaga looking game for a while.

Mikey does nothing that is not necessary. He moves his head enough. He feints enough. He throws enough.

I have never seen Mikey miss as much as Lomassiah missed last night.

Did you see him fight somebody who had a sole purpose to not get hit and moved like Marriaga?

Sequitorian wrote:ESPN is mostly responsible for the decline of boxing in the US ... for decades they ONLY reported boxing's miscues ... I can't tell you how many times one of their weaselly little announcers regurgitated the phrase "another black eye for boxing" ...

And Teddy Atlas is a moron ... he looks, speaks and acts like a moron ... that's why he's still there ... they consider him boxing's spokesperson ... it's ESPN's way of presenting boxing as a sport for morons ... somehow less than all that other crap they gloat over ...

... (and this has nothing to do with the fact that their idiotic, meaningless NFL awards show ran over for an hour and a half (here in the US) ... whereupon they cut away to cover the Loma card at the 9th round of the Beltran fight) ...

Blodhemn wrote:Lol @ the Loma hate, which is just kind of weird at this point but it is what it is. Garcia has been cutting massive weight for ages. He's got Mexican blood after all.

Tanzio wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

Tanzio wrote: Mikey does nothing that is not necessary. He moves his head enough. He feints enough. He throws enough.

I have never seen Mikey miss as much as Lomassiah missed last night.

Did you see him fight somebody who had a sole purpose to not get hit and moved like Marriaga?

Mikey would have thrown less, landed more, took less punishment, and legitimately ktfo Marriaga earlier.