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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

dirk2686 wrote: It's a simple question. What wins do anyone remember Vitali for?

What I remember are, Corrie Sanders, Kevin Johnson, Samuel Peters, Chris Areola, Odlanier Solis, Adamek and Chisora.

Joshua has already done better than that. Vitali would beat many of the dozens of heavyweights with better resumes. Stick to that, listing blobs like Kevin Johnson and Solis just makes you look dumb.

Yes of course they are blobs now that Vitali knocked them out. Lot of people much smarter then you considered Solis as a premier heavyweight and a real threat. Biased morons like yourself with an agenda will say anything.

Perhaps I am a moron, but I know that vitali never hurt Kevin Johnson, much less knocked him out. That's not biased, sweetheart, that's the fight. You should watch them before commenting.

davie wrote:He wants to avenge his brothers defeat

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/4627877/ ... ny-joshua/

He best start with a warm up fight against Tyson Fury

The night that Joshua beat Wladimir, I posted on here that I wouldn't be surprised if Vitali returned with a mission to avenge his brother's defeat.

He had that look in his face during the post fight announcements.

I'm sincerely hoping that he doesn't do it, because it will be a painful return if he does.

Joshua is young enough to be his son & looks like a monster in the making.

Vitali would do himself no favours if he decided to return now.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Perhaps I am a moron, but I know that vitali never hurt Kevin Johnson, much less knocked him out. That's not biased, sweetheart, that's the fight. You should watch them before commenting.

So if he did not KOed that one guy but decisioned him changes the the point I was making right? Or you are so happy you caught me partially misspoke you had to mention it. What do you want a medal? Your are probably the most illogical posters on this forum I have to say. Your inability to put 2 and 2 together is shocking.

Tarkus wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

Tarkus wrote: A fight is 12 rounds and even though Vitali was dominant early, Lewis could have still win it late without any cuts. It is possible but thats not what happened. Thats why we needed to see a rematch.

When a fighter is being thrown around like an empty tracksuit it's generally a good indicator of the direction the fight is going in

What that has to do with anything. Man could not see from one eye due to that cut.

When fight was stopped if they went for scorecards Vitali would win. One can argue that all cuts should be treated as accidental. Because there is nothing deliberate in giving cut. If fighter gets a cut from a punch is a matter of luck ALWAYS.

Cuts are inevitable in boxing. Going to cards every time one occurs is loony tunes logic. You're onto a loser here. Can someone who knows you take your keyboard and retire you from this thread? You're making a fool of yourself.

Noxy wrote:The Lewis fight is a big passé now is it not. People will always have different takes on what happened, what would have happened etc. It was just that type of scrap.

I don't think there is any dispute about what would have happened if they'd have continued. It would have been Vitali's last fight and he'd likely be dealing with serious eye problems for life if he didn't end up blind in one eye.

Also, he was cut badly in the mouth and was swallowing a lot of blood during the fight.

Tarkus wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

Tarkus wrote: A fight is 12 rounds and even though Vitali was dominant early, Lewis could have still win it late without any cuts. It is possible but thats not what happened. Thats why we needed to see a rematch.

When a fighter is being thrown around like an empty tracksuit it's generally a good indicator of the direction the fight is going in

What that has to do with anything. Man could not see from one eye due to that cut.

When fight was stopped if they went for scorecards Vitali would win. One can argue that all cuts should be treated as accidental. Because there is nothing deliberate in giving cut. If fighter gets a cut from a punch is a matter of luck ALWAYS.

It is somewhat a matter of luck, but why should Lewis lose out by it going to a decision because Vitali's face couldn't take the punishment? The idea is absurd. The fight was signed for twelve rounds, if Vitali isn't fit to continue due to damage sustained from the other fighters punches why should he get a chance to win that fight? The idea is absurd.

Covfefe wrote:

Noxy wrote:The Lewis fight is a big passé now is it not. People will always have different takes on what happened, what would have happened etc. It was just that type of scrap.

I don't think there is any dispute about what would have happened if they'd have continued. It would have been Vitali's last fight and he'd likely be dealing with serious eye problems for life if he didn't end up blind in one eye.

Also, he was cut badly in the mouth and was swallowing a lot of blood during the fight.

Hey, stop! Did you not read my post? The fight's long gone. That debate has run its course now. It has even (dare I say it) become boring, although the fight itself was anything but.

Noxy wrote:

Covfefe wrote:

Noxy wrote:The Lewis fight is a big passé now is it not. People will always have different takes on what happened, what would have happened etc. It was just that type of scrap.

I don't think there is any dispute about what would have happened if they'd have continued. It would have been Vitali's last fight and he'd likely be dealing with serious eye problems for life if he didn't end up blind in one eye.

Also, he was cut badly in the mouth and was swallowing a lot of blood during the fight.

Hey, stop! Did you not read my post? The fight's long gone. That debate has run its course now. It has even (dare I say it) become boring, although the fight itself was anything but.

I know, I just don't believe what would have happened if they continued is debatable. Vitali was saved from himself that night.

I get where you're coming from, it comes up as a topic every now and then and some people (I don't mean yourself) just get it completely wrong.

Tarkus wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Perhaps I am a moron, but I know that vitali never hurt Kevin Johnson, much less knocked him out. That's not biased, sweetheart, that's the fight. You should watch them before commenting.

So if he did not KOed that one guy but decisioned him changes the the point I was making right? Or you are so happy you caught me partially misspoke you had to mention it. What do you want a medal? Your are probably the most illogical posters on this forum I have to say. Your inability to put 2 and 2 together is shocking.

Yes, the fact that he didn't knock him out changes your point that he knocked him out.

Sklar wrote:Lol. Greedy old eff. Everybody wants a piece of Joshua money. No easier way of earning a fortune than boxing when the sails are full of wind.

Shannon Briggs is the fight I want to see.

LET'S GO CHAMP!

Tarkus wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Perhaps I am a moron, but I know that vitali never hurt Kevin Johnson, much less knocked him out. That's not biased, sweetheart, that's the fight. You should watch them before commenting.

So if he did not KOed that one guy but decisioned him changes the the point I was making right? Or you are so happy you caught me partially misspoke you had to mention it. What do you want a medal? Your are probably the most illogical posters on this forum I have to say. Your inability to put 2 and 2 together is shocking.

Tarkus, you're having a nightmare on this particular thread and in your attempts to get out of the discussion without losing face you're just jumping from one incorrect statement to another and resorting to insults calling people trolls, thick and morons because they quite rightly point out the errors in your posts.

Vitali lost, Lewis won... I think we can get over that now. It's like saying Arsenal would've won the league in 2000 and whatever if some bloke from the continent hadn't been injured for the last 5 games. No one cares now, he lost

Tarkus wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:

Tarkus wrote: Are you saying he planned to give him a cut. Punch doesn't mean a cut. Its a pure luck if someone gets cut. The momentum started to shift late, only after Vitalis cut got so swollen that his vision became obscured.

Let me also remind you that after the fight Lewis promised him a rematch. And what he did? He retired.

I remember Vitali was adamant he was going to defend against David Haye. Then he saw Haye send Derek Chisora's head flying into the 10th row and gave up that idea pretty sharpish. Suddenly retirement seemed more appealing!

I remember Vitali and Wlad having almost a punch fight about who would fight Haye. I remember Haye running from both of them for years before Wlad managed to get him in the ring. You remember wrongly.

You're a fudd mate

I bet Vitali vs AJ would be better than Hughie vs Parker.

That depressses me.

clopixolacuphase wrote:I bet Vitali vs AJ would be better than Hughie vs Parker.

That depressses me.

Williams v Skelton was on a par with Fury v Parker

clopixolacuphase wrote:I bet Vitali vs AJ would be better than Hughie vs Parker.

That depressses me.

Vitali vs AJ would look like the Thriller in Manila compared to Hughie vs Parker.

Stuarty30 wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:
I remember Vitali was adamant he was going to defend against David Haye. Then he saw Haye send Derek Chisora's head flying into the 10th row and gave up that idea pretty sharpish. Suddenly retirement seemed more appealing!

I remember Vitali and Wlad having almost a punch fight about who would fight Haye. I remember Haye running from both of them for years before Wlad managed to get him in the ring. You remember wrongly.

You're a fudd mate

Also... what's a "punch fight"?

What kind of fight would they have had otherwise?

Stuarty30 wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:
I remember Vitali was adamant he was going to defend against David Haye. Then he saw Haye send Derek Chisora's head flying into the 10th row and gave up that idea pretty sharpish. Suddenly retirement seemed more appealing!

I remember Vitali and Wlad having almost a punch fight about who would fight Haye. I remember Haye running from both of them for years before Wlad managed to get him in the ring. You remember wrongly.

You're a fudd mate

I swear to much in general and I often use too much profanity in front of my son.

My son being 4, finds it hilarious to mimick my profanity

earlier I dropped something on the floor and he turned to me and said "Dad, you're a wee fud!"
It was one of those moments you couldn't tell him off for laughing

Fudd is swearing?

I assumed it was one of those non-swearing words.

Covfefe wrote:Fudd is swearing?

I assumed it was one of those non-swearing words.

That's the beauty of the word fudd playboy

clopixolacuphase wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

Tarkus wrote: I remember Vitali and Wlad having almost a punch fight about who would fight Haye. I remember Haye running from both of them for years before Wlad managed to get him in the ring. You remember wrongly.

You're a fudd mate

Also... what's a "punch fight"?

What kind of fight would they have had otherwise?

sword fight. gun fight. verbal fight. tickle fight.

jamamb wrote:

clopixolacuphase wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:
You're a fudd mate

Also... what's a "punch fight"?

What kind of fight would they have had otherwise?

sword fight. gun fight. verbal fight. tickle fight.

I'm a massive fan of tickling

jamamb wrote:

clopixolacuphase wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:
You're a fudd mate

Also... what's a "punch fight"?

What kind of fight would they have had otherwise?

sword fight. gun fight. verbal fight. tickle fight.

Pillow?

jamamb wrote:

clopixolacuphase wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:
You're a fudd mate

Also... what's a "punch fight"?

What kind of fight would they have had otherwise?

sword fight. gun fight. verbal fight. tickle fight.

I always thought tickling was more of a contest.