Wilder is worst HW Champion ever?

[Tony1244]

Yes Badhusker, you can act like an absolute retard, but in reality the lab that claimed Povetkin did something wrong actually got suspended itself, Povetkin is innocent, Ortiz took his medicins for years on doctors advice and on discription as Wilder and his team knew beforehand, it was Wilder who got busted with drugs and it was Stiverne who got busted of using doping life in the act while the same dopinglab that wrongly claimed Povetkin did something wrong, couldn't find anything ever before in Stiverne his body :s!

Marijuana is not a performance enhancing drug and it likely was someone else's. Of course a boxer's friend or hanger on would never ever smoke pot.

Ortiz wasn't smart enough to list his medications, therefore he is too dumb to even box.

Pedvetkin Guilty.

Ortiz Guilty.

Lol, like Stiverne can speak Russian. The Americans just cowardly abused the fact he doesn't speak English that well and still has to sign loads of papers. Yea, you should blame Arreola indeed.

Stiverne speaking Russian? Who is he? Blame Arreola for what? Put the pipe/drink down dude.

[asdfjkl]

Marijuana is not a performance enhancing drug and it likely was someone else's. Of course a boxer's friend or hanger on would never ever smoke pot.

Ortiz wasn't smart enough to list his medications, therefore he is too dumb to even box.

Pedvetkin Guilty.

Ortiz Guilty.

Lol, like Stiverne can speak Russian. The Americans just cowardly abused the fact he doesn't speak English that well and still has to sign loads of papers. Yea, you should blame Arreola indeed.

Stiverne speaking Russian? Who is he? Blame Arreola for what? Put the pipe/drink down dude.

Ortiz doesn't speak English that well, team Wilder/Stiverne doesn't speak Russian that well, so if they have to sign something, they won't have a clue what they are signing. Wilder and his team can't be trusted, the Russians on the other hand are as reliable as you can get it. Let it be a lesson for all boxers, never trust Americans! Arreola is a friend of Wilder who also got busted with drugs, this guy who quoted me claims all the drugs in Wilder his posession was actually from someone else.

[Tony1244]

Lol, like Stiverne can speak Russian. The Americans just cowardly abused the fact he doesn't speak English that well and still has to sign loads of papers. Yea, you should blame Arreola indeed.

Stiverne speaking Russian? Who is he? Blame Arreola for what? Put the pipe/drink down dude.

Ortiz doesn't speak English that well, team Wilder/Stiverne doesn't speak Russian that well, so if they have to sign something, they won't have a clue what they are signing. Wilder and his team can't be trusted, the Russians on the other hand are as reliable as you can get it. Let it be a lesson for all boxers, never trust Americans! Arreola is a friend of Wilder who also got busted with drugs, this guy who quoted me claims all the drugs in Wilder his posession was actually from someone else.

What is in bold is quite funny. Yeah, the whole country is beyond reproach.

Regarding Ortiz, half of Miami is bilingual. If he can't find a bilingual little Marco Rubio type whippersnapper to read his contract he isn't looking very hard.

I'll show you how hard it is to find English/Russian translation: The below is the Russian translation of the above: Next....

То, что смело, довольно забавно. Да, вся страна не упрека.

Что касается Ортиса, половина Майами двуязычна. Если он не может найти двуязычного маленького шлема типа Marco Rubio, чтобы прочитать его контракт, он не выглядит очень тяжело.

[candyslim]

I don't defend Wilder per se, I merely point out the hypocrisy of only pointing out Wilder while giving others a free ride. A particular poster here lambasts Wilder on almost every post while championing Chinese HWs who are fighting opponents that make Wilder's look like household names.

To be fair nobody outside of China gives a sh*t if Zhang (either of them) select their next opponents with the assistance of a blindfold and a copy of the Beijing telephone directory, but Deontay is a recognized holder of a legitimate (yeah yeah I know) World Heavyweight Championship belt, and cannot be compared to or held to the same standard as a prospect, journeyman or contender because they are answerable only to themselves.

Back to the topic question, the answer is quite obviously 'no' why is thread still going?

[Kalan]

Stiverne speaking Russian? Who is he? Blame Arreola for what? Put the pipe/drink down dude.

Ortiz doesn't speak English that well, team Wilder/Stiverne doesn't speak Russian that well, so if they have to sign something, they won't have a clue what they are signing. Wilder and his team can't be trusted, the Russians on the other hand are as reliable as you can get it. Let it be a lesson for all boxers, never trust Americans! Arreola is a friend of Wilder who also got busted with drugs, this guy who quoted me claims all the drugs in Wilder his posession was actually from someone else.

What is in bold is quite funny. Yeah, the whole country is beyond reproach.

Regarding Ortiz, half of Miami is bilingual. If he can't find a bilingual little Marco Rubio type whippersnapper to read his contract he isn't looking very hard.

I'll show you how hard it is to find English/Russian translation: The below is the Russian translation of the above: Next....

То, что смело, довольно забавно. Да, вся страна не упрека.

Что касается Ортиса, половина Майами двуязычна. Если он не может найти двуязычного маленького шлема типа Marco Rubio, чтобы прочитать его контракт, он не выглядит очень тяжело.

That's not the issue. The issue is this: -- Ortiz DIDN'T try to cheat and they sent him a form written in French and English in a deliberate attempt to confuse him... He didn't fill it out by himself... His trainer or a member of his team who speaks English and Spanish went over the form with him and filled it out for him -- and then had Ortiz sign it. It's probably one of dozens of forms he has to fill out.

How many forms do you have to fill out on a monthly basis? Errors on forms happen all the time because humans make mistakes. Did Roy Jones, Bermane Stiverne, Antonio Tarver, Erik Morales, Lamont PEDerson, Floyd Mayweather, or other American or Mexican boxer's PED cases get blown out of proportion???? Guys who actually DID cheat and didn't fill out forms correctly???? NO!!! Their cases were swiftly swept under the rug.

But a Cuban and a Russian don't take ANY PED's and their cases are blown up in the American media in an attempt to destroy them. It's insane.

[Tony1244]

Ortiz doesn't speak English that well, team Wilder/Stiverne doesn't speak Russian that well, so if they have to sign something, they won't have a clue what they are signing. Wilder and his team can't be trusted, the Russians on the other hand are as reliable as you can get it. Let it be a lesson for all boxers, never trust Americans! Arreola is a friend of Wilder who also got busted with drugs, this guy who quoted me claims all the drugs in Wilder his posession was actually from someone else.

What is in bold is quite funny. Yeah, the whole country is beyond reproach.

Regarding Ortiz, half of Miami is bilingual. If he can't find a bilingual little Marco Rubio type whippersnapper to read his contract he isn't looking very hard.

I'll show you how hard it is to find English/Russian translation: The below is the Russian translation of the above: Next....

То, что смело, довольно забавно. Да, вся страна не упрека.

Что касается Ортиса, половина Майами двуязычна. Если он не может найти двуязычного маленького шлема типа Marco Rubio, чтобы прочитать его контракт, он не выглядит очень тяжело.

That's not the issue. The issue is this: -- Ortiz DIDN'T try to cheat and they sent him a form written in French and English in a deliberate attempt to confuse him... He didn't fill it out by himself... His trainer or a member of his team who speaks English and Spanish went over the form with him and filled it out for him -- and then had Ortiz sign it. It's probably one of dozens of forms he has to fill out.

How many forms do you have to fill out on a monthly basis? Errors on forms happen all the time because humans make mistakes. Did Roy Jones, Bermane Stiverne, Antonio Tarver, Erik Morales, Lamont PEDerson, Floyd Mayweather, or other American or Mexican boxer's PED cases get blown out of proportion???? Guys who actually DID cheat and didn't fill out forms correctly???? NO!!! Their cases were swiftly swept under the rug.

But a Cuban and a Russian don't take ANY PED's and their cases are blown up in the American media in an attempt to destroy them. It's insane.

I am terrible with computers and I copied and pasted the translation in minutes.

I wanted to see Wilder-Ortiz very badly so I'm also disappointed. Both Ortiz and Pedviken have failed these tests more than once.

[asdfjkl]

What is in bold is quite funny. Yeah, the whole country is beyond reproach.

Regarding Ortiz, half of Miami is bilingual. If he can't find a bilingual little Marco Rubio type whippersnapper to read his contract he isn't looking very hard.

I'll show you how hard it is to find English/Russian translation: The below is the Russian translation of the above: Next....

То, что смело, довольно забавно. Да, вся страна не упрека.

Что касается Ортиса, половина Майами двуязычна. Если он не может найти двуязычного маленького шлема типа Marco Rubio, чтобы прочитать его контракт, он не выглядит очень тяжело.

That's not the issue. The issue is this: -- Ortiz DIDN'T try to cheat and they sent him a form written in French and English in a deliberate attempt to confuse him... He didn't fill it out by himself... His trainer or a member of his team who speaks English and Spanish went over the form with him and filled it out for him -- and then had Ortiz sign it. It's probably one of dozens of forms he has to fill out.

How many forms do you have to fill out on a monthly basis? Errors on forms happen all the time because humans make mistakes. Did Roy Jones, Bermane Stiverne, Antonio Tarver, Erik Morales, Lamont PEDerson, Floyd Mayweather, or other American or Mexican boxer's PED cases get blown out of proportion???? Guys who actually DID cheat and didn't fill out forms correctly???? NO!!! Their cases were swiftly swept under the rug.

But a Cuban and a Russian don't take ANY PED's and their cases are blown up in the American media in an attempt to destroy them. It's insane.

I am terrible with computers and I copied and pasted the translation in minutes.

I wanted to see Wilder-Ortiz very badly so I'm also disappointed. Both Ortiz and Pedviken have failed these tests more than once.

But you don't get in on a computer, you get it on paper and most Americans are way to dumb to type it over correct.

[Tony1244]

That's not the issue. The issue is this: -- Ortiz DIDN'T try to cheat and they sent him a form written in French and English in a deliberate attempt to confuse him... He didn't fill it out by himself... His trainer or a member of his team who speaks English and Spanish went over the form with him and filled it out for him -- and then had Ortiz sign it. It's probably one of dozens of forms he has to fill out.

How many forms do you have to fill out on a monthly basis? Errors on forms happen all the time because humans make mistakes. Did Roy Jones, Bermane Stiverne, Antonio Tarver, Erik Morales, Lamont PEDerson, Floyd Mayweather, or other American or Mexican boxer's PED cases get blown out of proportion???? Guys who actually DID cheat and didn't fill out forms correctly???? NO!!! Their cases were swiftly swept under the rug.

But a Cuban and a Russian don't take ANY PED's and their cases are blown up in the American media in an attempt to destroy them. It's insane.

I am terrible with computers and I copied and pasted the translation in minutes.

I wanted to see Wilder-Ortiz very badly so I'm also disappointed. Both Ortiz and Pedviken have failed these tests more than once.

But you don't get in on a computer, you get it on paper and most Americans are way to dumb to type it over correct.

Okay, what genius country are you from?

[tiny_acres]

That's not the issue. The issue is this: -- Ortiz DIDN'T try to cheat and they sent him a form written in French and English in a deliberate attempt to confuse him... He didn't fill it out by himself... His trainer or a member of his team who speaks English and Spanish went over the form with him and filled it out for him -- and then had Ortiz sign it. It's probably one of dozens of forms he has to fill out.

How many forms do you have to fill out on a monthly basis? Errors on forms happen all the time because humans make mistakes. Did Roy Jones, Bermane Stiverne, Antonio Tarver, Erik Morales, Lamont PEDerson, Floyd Mayweather, or other American or Mexican boxer's PED cases get blown out of proportion???? Guys who actually DID cheat and didn't fill out forms correctly???? NO!!! Their cases were swiftly swept under the rug.

But a Cuban and a Russian don't take ANY PED's and their cases are blown up in the American media in an attempt to destroy them. It's insane.

I am terrible with computers and I copied and pasted the translation in minutes.

I wanted to see Wilder-Ortiz very badly so I'm also disappointed. Both Ortiz and Pedviken have failed these tests more than once.

But you don't get in on a computer, you get it on paper and most Americans are way to dumb to type it over correct.

You get more pathetic by the day.
When are they going to ban this idiot?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I am terrible with computers and I copied and pasted the translation in minutes.

I wanted to see Wilder-Ortiz very badly so I'm also disappointed. Both Ortiz and Pedviken have failed these tests more than once.

But you don't get in on a computer, you get it on paper and most Americans are way to dumb to type it over correct.

You get more pathetic by the day.
When are they going to ban this idiot?

I know there is an underlying feeling that putting someone on ignore is almost a defeatist attitude. Do yourself a favor and ignore that buffoon. Calling all fighters that aren't heavyweights dwarfs is beyond retarded. He's a dwarf.

[man]

I was a MUCH bigger fan of George Foreman than I ever have been of Deontay Wilder. I do sometimes play devil's advocate.

... and the devil can be proud of you.

[Tony1244]

I was a MUCH bigger fan of George Foreman than I ever have been of Deontay Wilder. I do sometimes play devil's advocate.

... and the devil can be proud of you.

He probably is. At least many zealous Christians who've met me would believe he's quite proud.

[man]

Ortiz doesn't speak English that well, team Wilder/Stiverne doesn't speak Russian that well, so if they have to sign something, they won't have a clue what they are signing.

my guess is that i do not detect the irony
in you post.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Ortiz doesn't speak English that well, team Wilder/Stiverne doesn't speak Russian that well, so if they have to sign something, they won't have a clue what they are signing.

my guess is that i do not detect the irony
in you post.

It's common place for rich people to sign documents that they can't read without having their attorney go over them. In fact, Luis Ortiz unwittingly is the newest elephant in the traveling circus from the alleged Wilder contract.

[man]

But you don't get in on a computer, you get it on paper and most Americans are way to dumb to type it over correct.

my guess is your are trying to say:
"most Americans are way too dumb
to type it over correctly."

just helpin' out ...

[asdfjkl]

I am terrible with computers and I copied and pasted the translation in minutes.

I wanted to see Wilder-Ortiz very badly so I'm also disappointed. Both Ortiz and Pedviken have failed these tests more than once.

But you don't get in on a computer, you get it on paper and most Americans are way to dumb to type it over correct.

Okay, what genius country are you from?

The Netherlands

[asdfjkl]

But you don't get in on a computer, you get it on paper and most Americans are way to dumb to type it over correct.

my guess is your are trying to say:
"most Americans are way too dumb
to type it over correctly."

just helpin' out ...

My excuse, I do get confused in foreign languages sometimes, to, too, two, tho, toe.

[Tony1244]

But you don't get in on a computer, you get it on paper and most Americans are way to dumb to type it over correct.

Okay, what genius country are you from?

The Netherlands

Great country. If I lived in a country where pot and prostitution was legal, I probably would't bother with boxrec.

[asdfjkl]

Okay, what genius country are you from?

The Netherlands

Great country. If I lived in a country where pot and prostitution was legal, I probably would't bother with boxrec.

It's mainly for the tourists and immigrants actually

[Tony1244]

The Netherlands

Great country. If I lived in a country where pot and prostitution was legal, I probably would't bother with boxrec.

It's mainly for the tourists and immigrants actually

We had one guy in our college group form Holland. He was one of the few that never smoked pot. Nice guy though.

[candyslim]

But you don't get in on a computer, you get it on paper and most Americans are way to dumb to type it over correct.

my guess is your are trying to say:
"most Americans are way too dumb
to type it over correctly."

just helpin' out ...

My excuse, I do get confused in foreign languages sometimes, to, too, two, tho, toe.

Whatever else people might say about you, I don't think your English is bad at all. I know plenty of people who struggle with "to" and "too" and that's their mother-tongue. I wish I were capable of conducting an argument, winning or otherwise, in another language. It's especially impressive that those on here for whom English is not their first language, have to cope with the rest of us using various words and phrases particular to where we are from. Much respect to all you guys.

If you'll allow me to offer one correction, I notice you often use the term "better as" as in "AA is better as BB" whereas it should be "AA is better than BB". I hope that is useful.

[apollo creed]

One of the most protected. He must be a relative or something of Seth Mitchell.

[Tony1244]

my guess is your are trying to say:
"most Americans are way too dumb
to type it over correctly."

just helpin' out ...

My excuse, I do get confused in foreign languages sometimes, to, too, two, tho, toe.

Whatever else people might say about you, I don't think your English is bad at all. I know plenty of people who struggle with "to" and "too" and that's their mother-tongue. I wish I were capable of conducting an argument, winning or otherwise, in another language. It's especially impressive that those on here for whom English is not their first language, have to cope with the rest of us using various words and phrases particular to where we are from. Much respect to all you guys.

If you'll allow me to offer one correction, I notice you often use the term "better as" as in "AA is better as BB" whereas it should be "AA is better than BB". I hope that is useful.

I'm not concerned about to or too. I commend someone who can write in two languages and he may be a nice guy from a cool country but does that explain his Wilder paranoia?

[Syntax Error]

Wilder fights Bermane Stiverne again who only had 1 fight since that loss and is listed as inactive!

Bermane Stiverne Is probably the best fighter on Wilders list of opponents.

Wilder having had 38 bouts has never fought anyone in the box recs top 15 .

Is he really the worst heavyweight champion ever?

How can he be worse than Charles Martin?

There's half a dozen so-called HW champions who are worse than Wilder, although I do admit that his resume is disappointing considering the amount of time he's held the belt.

[asdfjkl]

My excuse, I do get confused in foreign languages sometimes, to, too, two, tho, toe.

Whatever else people might say about you, I don't think your English is bad at all. I know plenty of people who struggle with "to" and "too" and that's their mother-tongue. I wish I were capable of conducting an argument, winning or otherwise, in another language. It's especially impressive that those on here for whom English is not their first language, have to cope with the rest of us using various words and phrases particular to where we are from. Much respect to all you guys.

If you'll allow me to offer one correction, I notice you often use the term "better as" as in "AA is better as BB" whereas it should be "AA is better than BB". I hope that is useful.

I'm not concerned about to or too. I commend someone who can write in two languages and he may be a nice guy from a cool country but does that explain his Wilder paranoia?

I just treat him the way I think he deserves to be treaten? Like I do with all heavyweights. Somehow there are remarkebly much Wilder topics on this forum, most likely because he got so much controversial lies around him.