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Ricky_ wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:35

gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:16 I don't think his ability to take a shot was gone. I think it was a case of people selling Sadam Ali short. He's a legitimately solid fighter. Not a world beater, but not a pushover.

They should put Sadam Ali in there with Jeff Horn

Battle of the young bucks that knocked off the old legends.

Ali was buckling Cotto with temple shots. I don't remember Canelo hurting Cotto as much as Ali.

True.

Ricky_ wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:35

gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:16 I don't think his ability to take a shot was gone. I think it was a case of people selling Sadam Ali short. He's a legitimately solid fighter. Not a world beater, but not a pushover.

They should put Sadam Ali in there with Jeff Horn

Battle of the young bucks that knocked off the old legends.

Ali was buckling Cotto with temple shots. I don't remember Canelo hurting Cotto as much as Ali.

Because he didn't land as cleanly as Ali did.

Ali vs Canelo next

gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:37

Ricky_ wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:35

gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:16 I don't think his ability to take a shot was gone. I think it was a case of people selling Sadam Ali short. He's a legitimately solid fighter. Not a world beater, but not a pushover.

They should put Sadam Ali in there with Jeff Horn

Battle of the young bucks that knocked off the old legends.

Ali was buckling Cotto with temple shots. I don't remember Canelo hurting Cotto as much as Ali.

Because he didn't land as cleanly as Ali did.

I don’t know about that. Gingerhead landed solid shots.

canelo landed plenty of good shots on cotto.

Tanzio wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:41

gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:37

Ricky_ wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:35

Ali was buckling Cotto with temple shots. I don't remember Canelo hurting Cotto as much as Ali.

Because he didn't land as cleanly as Ali did.

I don’t know about that. Gingerhead landed solid shots.

He did, but they were the kinda punches that Cotto might've seen coming...at least before the moment of impact. Ali kept catching him with a lot of stuff that just kinda blindsided him. Those kinda shots hurt ya worse.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:55

Tanzio wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:41

gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:37

Because he didn't land as cleanly as Ali did.

I don’t know about that. Gingerhead landed solid shots.

He did, but they were the kinda punches that Cotto might've seen coming...at least before the moment of impact. Ali kept catching him with a lot of stuff that just kinda blindsided him. Those kinda shots hurt ya worse.

I think Cotto is just done. Ali deserves serious credit though. I look forward to seeing him in the ring again.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:40 Ali vs Canelo next

You are probably correct.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 02:17

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:40 Ali vs Canelo next

You are probably correct.

I’d watch it.

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Tanzio wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 02:14

gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:55

Tanzio wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:41
I don’t know about that. Gingerhead landed solid shots.

He did, but they were the kinda punches that Cotto might've seen coming...at least before the moment of impact. Ali kept catching him with a lot of stuff that just kinda blindsided him. Those kinda shots hurt ya worse.

I think Cotto is just done. Ali deserves serious credit though. I look forward to seeing him in the ring again.

Just like Golden Boy planned it. You wanting to see Ali again.

diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 03:11

Tanzio wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 02:14

gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:55

He did, but they were the kinda punches that Cotto might've seen coming...at least before the moment of impact. Ali kept catching him with a lot of stuff that just kinda blindsided him. Those kinda shots hurt ya worse.

I think Cotto is just done. Ali deserves serious credit though. I look forward to seeing him in the ring again.

Just like Golden Boy planned it. You wanting to see Ali again.

Credit to Ali, but nobody is savoring to see him again. He doesn't even get a ton of N.Y. support.

armageto wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 04:01

diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 03:11

Tanzio wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 02:14
I think Cotto is just done. Ali deserves serious credit though. I look forward to seeing him in the ring again.

Just like Golden Boy planned it. You wanting to see Ali again.

Credit to Ali, but nobody is savoring to see him again. He doesn't even get a ton of N.Y. support.

People now know who he is. It’s the wwe effect. This is business marketing 101.

Good fight, I'm a big cotto fan but I'm glad Ali didn't get shafted.

diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:16 Golden Boy could’ve picked any non Golden Boy fighter to send Cotto out on a high note but that doesn’t put money in their pocket. They conveniently chose one of their young lions to get some shine off a guy they could no longer make any money off of.

I really hope that you're wrong, but your logic is good. And you called it.

Thomastearns wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 06:06

diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:16 Golden Boy could’ve picked any non Golden Boy fighter to send Cotto out on a high note but that doesn’t put money in their pocket. They conveniently chose one of their young lions to get some shine off a guy they could no longer make any money off of.

I really hope that you're wrong, but your logic is good. And you called it.

Liam Smith is his mandatory. Whether is can milk a voluntary.. Who knows.

Tanzio wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:36

Ricky_ wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:35

gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:16 I don't think his ability to take a shot was gone. I think it was a case of people selling Sadam Ali short. He's a legitimately solid fighter. Not a world beater, but not a pushover.

They should put Sadam Ali in there with Jeff Horn

Battle of the young bucks that knocked off the old legends.

Ali was buckling Cotto with temple shots. I don't remember Canelo hurting Cotto as much as Ali.

True.

It's because they were temple shots. I remember long ago, relatively light hitting Demarcus Corley put Cotto and Mayweather on queer St with well placed temple shots.

With a temple shot, it doesn't really matter how good a fighter's chin is, or really even how powerful the delivery, so much. It's about placement and the receiver's ability to maintain his equilibrium.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 06:17

Thomastearns wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 06:06

diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:16 Golden Boy could’ve picked any non Golden Boy fighter to send Cotto out on a high note but that doesn’t put money in their pocket. They conveniently chose one of their young lions to get some shine off a guy they could no longer make any money off of.

I really hope that you're wrong, but your logic is good. And you called it.

Liam Smith is his mandatory. Whether is can milk a voluntary.. Who knows.

Not sure. FW pretty much owns the WBO so unlikely. Possibly if smith gets a lot of step aside money.

diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 04:03

armageto wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 04:01

diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 03:11

Just like Golden Boy planned it. You wanting to see Ali again.

Credit to Ali, but nobody is savoring to see him again. He doesn't even get a ton of N.Y. support.

People now know who he is. It’s the wwe effect. This is business marketing 101.

People do know who he is from tv appearances and the AM's. I've never heard anyone in N.Y. say "I can't wait to see Ali in the ring" or looking forward to any of his fights. Not that he isn't a god fighter, he's just nothing great. Even with the Cotto win. He's not a PPV star. He's not a future one. He's not an A side, headlining fighter for a major card. He's not a future one.

I have never liked the matches where the "young lion" beats an old fading star.

It is easy to see who would have won if it was prime vs prime. So the young guy won just because the other one is only shadow of the boxer he once was.

Frustrating stuff

armageto wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 18:36 I've never heard anyone in N.Y. say "I can't wait to see Ali in the ring" or looking forward to any of his fights.

I have heard that... But I have to admit it was many years ago

Heretic wrote: ↑04 Dec 2017, 04:01

armageto wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 18:36 I've never heard anyone in N.Y. say "I can't wait to see Ali in the ring" or looking forward to any of his fights.

I have heard that... But I have to admit it was many years ago

Eddie Hearn will be doing what he does best to get Kell Brook a shot at this belt.

Badhusker wrote: ↑04 Dec 2017, 07:42 Eddie Hearn will be doing what he does best to get Kell Brook a shot at this belt.

He already tweeted Ali.