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Spud wrote: ↑10 Dec 2017, 08:02Loma v Rigo

Wasn't really a boxing lesson was it?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Dec 2017, 13:08

Spud wrote: ↑10 Dec 2017, 08:02Loma v Rigo

Wasn't really a boxing lesson was it?

Why not?

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 11:20

xerz00 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 09:36 Barrera v Prince Naseem
Froch v Bute
Fury v Wlad

and without doubt the clearer winner Calzaghe v Lacy

Fury v Wlad was a boxing lesson?

A bit tongue in cheek but Wlad couldn't lay a glove on Fury, totally outfoxed

Douglas vs Tyson

Foreman vs Frazier

JC v Lacy

herol graham over julian jackson.

just a shame he walked onto that mega-ton right hander.

jones jr vs toney.

any roy jones jr fight from 89 to 2002 tbh.

The one that I remember most fondly is McMillan v Stecca - Stecca had been Olympic champion (admittedly in 1984 when the Eastern Bloc boycott had taken place but still not to be sniffed at), but McMillan completely outboxed him. Wonderful skills and speed - joyous to watch, and an amazing performance.

PS - I remember the scores on the night being, ridiculously, a split decision (although wrongly announced as a majority decision by the MC), but it is now down as unanimous on Boxrec. Appreciate I am about a quarter of a century late in asking this question, but anyone know what happened there - was it simply an error in adding the scores on the night?

McMillan is a great call, along with the likes of kirkland Laing and herol Graham, as being one of the biggest virtuosos of talent and skill to have graced british rings.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 04:48 McMillan is a great call, along with the likes of kirkland Laing and herol Graham, as being one of the biggest virtuosos of talent and skill to have graced british rings.

I thought Paul Ingle was better than him in every department.

lurkyshaka wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 15:34 Tommy Hearns Vs Virgil Hill.

Expected to lose Hearns outboxed the boxer.

Duran vs Davey Moore ,Duran took him to school

Deserter wrote: ↑05 Dec 2017, 23:03

littlepug wrote: ↑05 Dec 2017, 16:01 McMillan v De Roux
Chávez v Holligan
Joshua v Martin
Leonard v Green
McCallum v Watson

Can’t agree with any of those mate given the criteria- Green vs Leonard, Chavez vs Hooligan in particular were never expected to be remotely competitive beforehand.

If you wanted to go down that road then surely nothing more illustrative of levels than Barrera’s demolitions of Wenton and Lloyd... talk about making the gap between British and World level very explicit.

Hollighan actually did better than expected if you rewatch it .

Hero Graham vs Rod Douglas...... just a shame about the aftermath.

paddy chavez wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 07:54 Duran vs Davey Moore ,Duran took him to school

The 12-fight Moore discovered that a thumb isn't for sucking on.

Switch hitter wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 08:36 Hero Graham vs Rod Douglas...... just a shame about the aftermath.

I was gonna put that fight, if I remember rightly Mickey duff thought they'd picked Graham on the way down and rid would win

paddy chavez wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 11:23

Switch hitter wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 08:36 Hero Graham vs Rod Douglas...... just a shame about the aftermath.

I was gonna put that fight, if I remember rightly Mickey duff thought they'd picked Graham on the way down and rid would win

One of Mickey's mistakes, of which there are a few (Downes-Tiger, Laing-Hutchings, Gardner-Dokes, Minter-Harris, Stracey-Palomino, Watson-McCallum...). Mickey actually blamed the referee (former pro bantamweight Billy Rafferty) for the injury suffered by Douglas, which was a horrible attempt to free himself of any error.

paddy chavez wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 07:56

Deserter wrote: ↑05 Dec 2017, 23:03

littlepug wrote: ↑05 Dec 2017, 16:01 McMillan v De Roux
Chávez v Holligan
Joshua v Martin
Leonard v Green
McCallum v Watson

Can’t agree with any of those mate given the criteria- Green vs Leonard, Chavez vs Hooligan in particular were never expected to be remotely competitive beforehand.

If you wanted to go down that road then surely nothing more illustrative of levels than Barrera’s demolitions of Wenton and Lloyd... talk about making the gap between British and World level very explicit.

Hollighan actually did better than expected if you rewatch it .

to be fair its ages since ive watched it, from memory it was man against boy but will have to give it another look

mickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 07:46

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 04:48 McMillan is a great call, along with the likes of kirkland Laing and herol Graham, as being one of the biggest virtuosos of talent and skill to have graced british rings.

I thought Paul Ingle was better than him in every department.

Aye he probably was but you wont see many with skills as smooth as Mcmillan, he even looked good when he was losing !

littlepug wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 11:49

paddy chavez wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 07:56

Deserter wrote: ↑05 Dec 2017, 23:03
Can’t agree with any of those mate given the criteria- Green vs Leonard, Chavez vs Hooligan in particular were never expected to be remotely competitive beforehand.

If you wanted to go down that road then surely nothing more illustrative of levels than Barrera’s demolitions of Wenton and Lloyd... talk about making the gap between British and World level very explicit.

Hollighan actually did better than expected if you rewatch it .

to be fair its ages since ive watched it, from memory it was man against boy but will have to give it another look

I thought the same and rewatched it a few months back and Andy hollighan had a real go

littlepug wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 11:51

mickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 07:46

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 04:48 McMillan is a great call, along with the likes of kirkland Laing and herol Graham, as being one of the biggest virtuosos of talent and skill to have graced british rings.

I thought Paul Ingle was better than him in every department.

Aye he probably was but you wont see many with skills as smooth as Mcmillan, he even looked good when he was losing !

I'm hugely biased to Paul but he was technically brilliant. His lifestyle let him down in the end, with tragic consequences. He was worse than Hatton for drinking and blowing up.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 13:32

littlepug wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 11:51

mickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 07:46
I thought Paul Ingle was better than him in every department.

Aye he probably was but you wont see many with skills as smooth as Mcmillan, he even looked good when he was losing !

I'm hugely biased to Paul but he was technically brilliant. His lifestyle let him down in the end, with tragic consequences. He was worse than Hatton for drinking and blowing up.

How is Paul doing these days?

mickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 13:32

littlepug wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 11:51

mickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 07:46
I thought Paul Ingle was better than him in every department.

Aye he probably was but you wont see many with skills as smooth as Mcmillan, he even looked good when he was losing !

I'm hugely biased to Paul but he was technically brilliant. His lifestyle let him down in the end, with tragic consequences. He was worse than Hatton for drinking and blowing up.

First time I entered the A.B.As (about 91/92ish) I went to get changed and saw paul Ingle in there also getting changed and sh1t myself hoping he hadnt moved up to bantam ! in hindsight I would love to say I had shared a ring with him, woulda been a hard night though !

littlepug wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 13:59

mickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 13:32

littlepug wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 11:51
Aye he probably was but you wont see many with skills as smooth as Mcmillan, he even looked good when he was losing !

I'm hugely biased to Paul but he was technically brilliant. His lifestyle let him down in the end, with tragic consequences. He was worse than Hatton for drinking and blowing up.

First time I entered the A.B.As (about 91/92ish) I went to get changed and saw paul Ingle in there also getting changed and sh1t myself hoping he hadnt moved up to bantam ! in hindsight I would love to say I had shared a ring with him, woulda been a hard night though !

Olympic year for him.

thepocketrocket wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 13:40

mickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 13:32

littlepug wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 11:51
Aye he probably was but you wont see many with skills as smooth as Mcmillan, he even looked good when he was losing !

I'm hugely biased to Paul but he was technically brilliant. His lifestyle let him down in the end, with tragic consequences. He was worse than Hatton for drinking and blowing up.

How is Paul doing these days?

As well as can be expected. He came through here for an unlicensed show a couple of weeks ago. He rarely misses one!