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Were they really refused service because of their ethnicity or was it really because they cause trouble?

banjo wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 11:25 Were they really refused service because of their ethnicity or was it really because they cause trouble?

Sounds like the pub made the mistake of not just saying 'we're not serving you' and instead told them they weren't being served because they were gypsies.

There is very little you can do if the people running a pub don't want you in; landlords are entitled to refuse service and doormen can stop you going in and they don't need to give a reason. We all know gypsies/travellers are massively over-represented when it comes to crime so there would be absolutely no doubt that the feeling in the area would have been to try and keep them out. But understandably you can't explicit state you're refusing to serve someone on the basis of who they are without a very good reason.

So finally, Dirks true colours have shone through..... A travelling man must have really hurt you, once.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 12:04 So finally, Dirks true colours have shone through..... A travelling man must have really hurt you, once.

Nope - don't think I've ever met one as far as I'm aware. Not sure what you mean by true colours either unless yet again you're struggling with basic written English?

dirk2686 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 12:31

mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 12:04 So finally, Dirks true colours have shone through..... A travelling man must have really hurt you, once.

Nope - don't think I've ever met one as far as I'm aware. Not sure what you mean by true colours either unless yet again you're struggling with basic written English?

What he means is you sound like an ignorant idiot

Not the most liked bloke over on CHB. Easy to see why.

danconnollyeire wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 12:49

dirk2686 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 12:31

mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 12:04 So finally, Dirks true colours have shone through..... A travelling man must have really hurt you, once.

Nope - don't think I've ever met one as far as I'm aware. Not sure what you mean by true colours either unless yet again you're struggling with basic written English?

What he means is you sound like an ignorant idiot

In what sense? Travellers are massively over-represented in British and Irish prisons if that was your point of contention.

MarkMcBurney wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 11:10

No worries...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/aug/30/race.world

..never heard of this definition.. must be some British invention

BitPlayer wrote: ↑04 Jan 2018, 12:52

asdfjkl wrote: ↑04 Jan 2018, 08:07 If I where AJ, I would tell Tyson that he only needs to beat one of AJ his past 5 active opponents convincingly and offer to face him if he does.

He could beat Molina, Martin, and Breazeale now, all on the same night.

Takam is decent, but Fury would ruin him if he was half way in shape

Weren't Fury and Takam meant to have had some closed door fight before the Chisora rematch?

I know that American good shape isn't anyway close near European good shape, but is the European version of terrible shape still better as American good shape?

Can’t believe we’re having an argument about travellers and Henry isn’t here. Someone call him and let him know!

asdfjkl wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 13:34

BitPlayer wrote: ↑04 Jan 2018, 12:52

asdfjkl wrote: ↑04 Jan 2018, 08:07 If I where AJ, I would tell Tyson that he only needs to beat one of AJ his past 5 active opponents convincingly and offer to face him if he does.

He could beat Molina, Martin, and Breazeale now, all on the same night.

Takam is decent, but Fury would ruin him if he was half way in shape

Weren't Fury and Takam meant to have had some closed door fight before the Chisora rematch?

I know that American good shape isn't anyway close near European good shape, but is the European version of terrible shape still better as American good shape?

No, but the gulfs in size and skill would compensate.

asdfjkl wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 13:34I know that American good shape isn't anyway close near European good shape, but is the European version of terrible shape still better as American good shape?

Basically if you saw Fury walking down the street in an average UK town and didn't know who he was you'd think 'that big fat bastard looks awful for 40.'

dirk2686 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 14:21

asdfjkl wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 13:34I know that American good shape isn't anyway close near European good shape, but is the European version of terrible shape still better as American good shape?

Basically if you saw Fury walking down the street in an average UK town and didn't know who he was you'd think 'that big fat bastard looks awful for 40.'

Is that all he is ?

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 13:41 Can’t believe we’re having an argument about travellers and Henry isn’t here. Someone call him and let him know!

dirk2686 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 14:21

asdfjkl wrote: ↑05 Jan 2018, 13:34I know that American good shape isn't anyway close near European good shape, but is the European version of terrible shape still better as American good shape?

Basically if you saw Fury walking down the street in an average UK town and didn't know who he was you'd think 'that big fat bastard looks awful for 40.'

As long as he doesn't talk I would probably think, hey, that's the tallest American tourist I've ever seen!

What a joke Tyson is

I don’t get the ‘masterclass’. It was a close fight. I even had WK edging it.

Also the WK of the Fury fight wasn’t able to pull the trigger. He was the same in the Jennings fight before. I thought he was showing signs of serious decline.
At least in the AJ fight he threw the big right hand. I think he knew the end was nigh and was throwing the dice one last time.

Neither win was better than the other. Both beat a faded great way past his prime.
AJ’s win ticked more boxes. He answered the questions about heart and desire.
Fury had already proven he uses his height and reach well, which was what he showed most in the WK win.

It was a masterclass in hit and not be hit and making the fight a mess and the pantomime before some people like .

If that's what floats your boat .

Does nothing for me , dull as dishwater and I was surprised that he got the nod in a close scrappy fight in Germany.

More boring nonsense from Fury. Clearly isn't arsed about getting fit (he's been a fat bastard for two years) and just after the payday. We all know Joshua fights Parker next anyway then aims for Wilder so Tyson has months to get a fight in which he's clearly not arsed about.

dirk2686 wrote: ↑07 Jan 2018, 14:39 More boring nonsense from Fury. Clearly isn't arsed about getting fit (he's been a fat bastard for two years) and just after the payday. We all know Joshua fights Parker next anyway then aims for Wilder so Tyson has months to get a fight in which he's clearly not arsed about.

Have you spoken to him? He's at his managers gym training now. What part of that don't you get?

And Wilder would take a back seat for Tyson. Wilders title after Stervaine means less than one won against Charles Martin!

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Jan 2018, 14:51

dirk2686 wrote: ↑07 Jan 2018, 14:39 More boring nonsense from Fury. Clearly isn't arsed about getting fit (he's been a fat bastard for two years) and just after the payday. We all know Joshua fights Parker next anyway then aims for Wilder so Tyson has months to get a fight in which he's clearly not arsed about.

Have you spoken to him? He's at his managers gym training now. What part of that don't you get?

He's been training for ages and he's evidently a fat bastard. If he was serious he'd be in shape already.

Too much risk signing to fight Fury. Bottled three fights in the last few years with clearly nonsense reasons.

Tyson will sadly have to prove himself worthy of the fight. He's not fought in ages and isnt at the front of the queue. I wonder if he actually has the appetite to fight his way back. It seems he's only interested in jumping straight to joshua, which if hes serious, isn't s smart plan.

This is the same sort of talk any boxer who has a claim to the top spot would say. I would even expect this from people like Wilder, Haye and even Chisora in a sense.

As for accepting the challenge, there is about 0% chance of it happening any time soon. 3 very good reasons behind this.
1) Fury needs to officially get his license back first.
2) Fury needs to get back into proper fighting shape.
3) Fury needs to actually fight someone and prove he can back up his claims.

2 and a half years out of one of the hardest sports in the world is a lifetime, this would be like Vitali Klitschko coming out and challenging Joshua. There wouldn't be any sense in the fight without Vitali proving he could still contend with the top of the division and if he would risk tarnishing his own legacy in the sport.
If the fight did happen, Fury would turn up but I don't think it would be a true contest. If anything it would be an easy win for Joshua. I'd Rather see them fight when Fury is back at 100% and both men can give their best.