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Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?
Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 05:30
by bbjc
oogiebe wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 21:22
bbjc wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 19:27
Breazeale did knock him out. He came in at 263 lbs for that fight and outlasted him. But ugo,s punches still had him all over the place even at 263 lbs. Breazeales a big lumbering durable guy. I m still not 100 % sure Joshua and wilder are tho. Almost every time they,be been hit clean...there's been a reaction. Wilder numerous times. Joshua against klitchko and whyte. If ugo hits either of them clean I still say he,ll get a reaction. He,s got the height, the reach, the speed, the power. Its a lot more than a lot of them have. Like say pulev. No power. No speed.
Guy needs to get back in the ring and back in contention. Defo needs more development fights. But he's got more going for him than a lot of these other opponents in potential match ups. Not sure he's durable enough but his style will give Joshua fits.
Its never been about being better than Joshua....the guy that beats him likely won't be. Its certain attributes that will get the job done. Some of them attributes ugo possesses.
Sort of like, Frazier beat Ali; Norton beat Ali; Foreman destroyed Frazier and Norton, Ali knocks out Foreman....like the old saying...styles make fights
Exactly mate. That division looks full of styles make fights fights.
Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?
Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 07:05
by ewenhay
Decent options for Wilder if it's not Joshua (assuming Joshua wins) would be
Ortiz 2
Povetkin
Winner of Whyte/Browne
Miller
Parker
Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?
Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 07:52
by bigman1968
Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 12:30
oogiebe wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 12:23
You love that guy! Why not!
I think he'd be a stylistic nightmare for deontay Wilder. Even worse than Gerald Washington (who schooled Wilder for 5 rounds using his jab before getting stopped). This time though, I doubt Pulev would get stopped as easily. His chin is solid and the fact that he was KO'ed by Wladimir Klitschko once is more a testament to Wlad's power than Kubrat Pulev's lack of durability.
I think Pulev would out-box Wilder and last the distance if this fight were to happen within this year.
Pulev didn’t fight real boxer 4 years! Who knows what he can show???
Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?
Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 11:53
by Luis Fernando12
bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 07:52
Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 12:30
oogiebe wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 12:23
You love that guy! Why not!
I think he'd be a stylistic nightmare for deontay Wilder. Even worse than Gerald Washington (who schooled Wilder for 5 rounds using his jab before getting stopped). This time though, I doubt Pulev would get stopped as easily. His chin is solid and the fact that he was KO'ed by Wladimir Klitschko once is more a testament to Wlad's power than Kubrat Pulev's lack of durability.
I think Pulev would out-box Wilder and last the distance if this fight were to happen within this year.
Pulev didn’t fight real boxer 4 years! Who knows what he can show???
What 'real' boxers have the other suggested boxers fought?
Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?
Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 17:43
by bigman1968
Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 11:53
bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 07:52
Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 12:30
I think he'd be a stylistic nightmare for deontay Wilder. Even worse than Gerald Washington (who schooled Wilder for 5 rounds using his jab before getting stopped). This time though, I doubt Pulev would get stopped as easily. His chin is solid and the fact that he was KO'ed by Wladimir Klitschko once is more a testament to Wlad's power than Kubrat Pulev's lack of durability.
I think Pulev would out-box Wilder and last the distance if this fight were to happen within this year.
Pulev didn’t fight real boxer 4 years! Who knows what he can show???
What 'real' boxers have the other suggested boxers fought?
Comparing to Arias, Harris, fat faded Peter and K. Johnson - Rudenko/Hammer(Povetkin's) looks alive at least

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?
Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 18:34
by Lackeos
Povetkin or Pulev.
Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?
Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 01:59
by Luis Fernando12
bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 17:43
Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 11:53
bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 07:52
Pulev didn’t fight real boxer 4 years! Who knows what he can show???
What 'real' boxers have the other suggested boxers fought?
Comparing to Arias, Harris, fat faded Peter and K. Johnson - Rudenko/Hammer(Povetkin's) looks alive at least
All of those boxers are roughly on the same level.
Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?
Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 05:48
by bigman1968
ewenhay wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 07:05
Decent options for Wilder if it's not Joshua (assuming Joshua wins) would be
Ortiz 2
Povetkin
Winner of Whyte/Browne
Miller
Parker
Ortiz2 -one time was enough for Wilder
Povetkin - no chance, still have lawsuit issue
Whyte/Brown - only if WBC will make it mandatory
Miller - why???
Parker - he will take timeout after his first KO
Actually - it will be someone from Heymon stable, probably Breazeale
Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?
Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 06:28
by Lenny Cravats
I wouldn't mind seeing an Ortiz 2 match.
If Parker does well against AJ (not expecting him to win) then that would be OK whilst AJ fights Povetkin.
Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?
Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 06:53
by ewenhay
bigman1968 wrote: ↑17 Mar 2018, 05:48
ewenhay wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 07:05
Decent options for Wilder if it's not Joshua (assuming Joshua wins) would be
Ortiz 2
Povetkin
Winner of Whyte/Browne
Miller
Parker
Ortiz2 -one time was enough for Wilder
Povetkin - no chance, still have lawsuit issue
Whyte/Brown - only if WBC will make it mandatory
Miller - why???
Parker - he will take timeout after his first KO
Actually - it will be someone from Heymon stable, probably Breazeale
Who do you suggest he should fight then? I don't see Breazeale as a better fight than any of the others quoted.
The question was who should he fight, not who will he fight
Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?
Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 09:35
by bigman1968
ewenhay wrote: ↑17 Mar 2018, 06:53
bigman1968 wrote: ↑17 Mar 2018, 05:48
ewenhay wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 07:05
Decent options for Wilder if it's not Joshua (assuming Joshua wins) would be
Ortiz 2
Povetkin
Winner of Whyte/Browne
Miller
Parker
Ortiz2 -one time was enough for Wilder
Povetkin - no chance, still have lawsuit issue
Whyte/Brown - only if WBC will make it mandatory
Miller - why???
Parker - he will take timeout after his first KO
Actually - it will be someone from Heymon stable, probably Breazeale
Who do you suggest he should fight then? I don't see Breazeale as a better fight than any of the others quoted.
The question was who should he fight, not who will he fight
I would like very much to watch Wilder-Povetkin....at Moscow, actually-)))
It could be a delight to read all the b/s Povetkin’s asslickers posts after brutal Povetkin’s KO....
Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?
Posted: 18 Mar 2018, 13:32
by candyslim
Agreed. Wach had previously lost only to Wlad and Povetkin. It's been a while since Takam had a meaningful win or since Ruiz had a meaningful fight. I mean no disrespect to Rekowski nor Vargas but neither is a taxing opponent for a boxer purporting to be top ten(ish.)
In Duhaupas, Miller is on to his third decent opponent in a row and is deserving of a cheesebu ... eee I mean deserving of respect.
Sorry that "agreed" was in reference to whoever it was said both Wach and Washington were better wins than Szpilka. I hadn't realized that was a long way from the most recent post.
Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?
Posted: 18 Mar 2018, 14:01
by Pukka Cheese
Povetkin
Whyte (assuming he beats Browne)
Winner of Usyk Vs Gassiev
Parker