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brakehus is too small but im sure they could work it out and then claressa could decision her too

or theres that canadian chick at 154 who seems like the female sven ottke at 15-0 (0), she may have even less power then claressa. someones not getting floored in that one!

jamamb wrote: ↑14 Apr 2019, 03:14 brakehus is too small but im sure they could work it out and then claressa could decision her too

or theres that canadian chick at 154 who seems like the female sven ottke at 15-0 (0), she may have even less power then claressa. someones not getting floored in that one!

That made me laugh out loud but be nice. Claressa looked strong.

Shields was begging for the stoppage in round 8.

2 judges scored it 10-8, but Hammer wasn’t about to be stopped.

The best thing about the contest was the scoring. It's refreshing to see the same score from all three judges even though it wasn't a difficult fight to score. Shields was dominant and not lacking skill, but so far it's only Katie Taylor that has really impressed me and made me reconsider my attitude to women boxing.

Am I supposed to be interested in this disgusting "female" boxing trash? They're pushing it hard. But the only real women I see in the boxing ring are the ring card girls.

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑14 Apr 2019, 14:03 Am I supposed to be interested in this disgusting "female" boxing trash? They're pushing it hard. But the only real women I see in the boxing ring are the ring card girls.

The 1950's are looking for you.

They want a enlightened "real man" back.

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑14 Apr 2019, 14:03 Am I supposed to be interested in this disgusting "female" boxing trash? They're pushing it hard. But the only real women I see in the boxing ring are the ring card girls.

Yet, I bet you had no problem watching Ronda Rousey in UFC.

That's the problem with boxing. Claressa Shields gets criticized for doing exactly what Ronda Rousey did in the UFC

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑14 Apr 2019, 17:40 Yet, I bet you had no problem watching Ronda Rousey in UFC.

That's the problem with boxing. Claressa Shields gets criticized for doing exactly what Ronda Rousey did in the UFC

do you actually know that? that illya was into womens mma? or are you just fabricating evidence of a double standard to create some sort of false unfairness? why wud he have that double standard you think? btw, was the 'criticism' on shields specifically or womens boxing?seems the later to me

btw i find womens mma way more fun. rousey for example never had a fight go to decision and got ktfo , ktfod others, lots of submissios, etc. shields hasnt even drop anyone, so you have very different fights. womens boxing just isnt fan friendly. btw there have been other dominant female boxers before/at same time as sheilds. katie taylor and brakhaus for example. i havent seen much double standard from the ppl who say women shouldnt be fighting, they say it for boxing and mma whether shields, rousey, or others.

jamamb wrote: ↑14 Apr 2019, 18:22 do you actually know that? that illya was into womens mma? or are you just fabricating evidence of a double standard to create some sort of false unfairness? why wud he have that double standard you think? btw, was the 'criticism' on shields specifically or womens boxing?seems the later to me

btw i find womens mma way more fun. rousey for example never had a fight go to decision and got ktfo , ktfod others, lots of submissios, etc. shields hasnt even drop anyone, so you have very different fights. womens boxing just isnt fan friendly. btw there have been other dominant female boxers before/at same time as sheilds. katie taylor and brakhaus for example. i havent seen much double standard from the ppl who say women shouldnt be fighting, they say it for boxing and mma whether shields, rousey, or others.

Maybe they should make it 3 min rounds. The Hammer fight would've been stopped in round 8 for sure.

And Rousey while fun, wasn't as skilled as they made her out to be. That's like saying Floyd Mayweather is a trash fighter because he doesn't fight like Gatti, who was a C level fighter.

Let's not forget former boxer Holly Holm beat Rousey basically leading boxing style jabs and foot work to her kicks.

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑14 Apr 2019, 17:40 Yet, I bet you had no problem watching Ronda Rousey in UFC.

That's the problem with boxing. Claressa Shields gets criticized for doing exactly what Ronda Rousey did in the UFC

You lose that bet too. Now pay up!

I rarely look at UFC or MMA or whatever it's called, and if I do it would not be females fighting. The exalted function of females in any species is to perpetuate the race, not punch each other in the face. That's our job.

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 00:00 You lose that bet too. Now pay up!

I rarely look at UFC or MMA or whatever it's called, and if I do it would not be females fighting. The exalted function of females in any species is to perpetuate the race, not punch each other in the face. That's our job.

Actually the exalted function of males is also to perpetuate the species.

It's not a one way street.

It takes two. Both genders can and do perform the same role.

No different than boxing.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 00:31 Actually the exalted function of males is also to perpetuate the species.

It's not a one way street.

It takes two. Both genders can and do perform the same role.

No different than boxing.

Not on this planet they don't. Not in any species. Only in Hollywood movies and American tv and computer games.. Nobody ever taught you about "the birds and the bees", huh?

I'm old school and my earliest thoughts on the subject were that women should not participate in combat, whether that's in the armed forces, or in a ring with gloves on, or anywhere else. Judo was my only concession.

These days I've moved with the times. I've moved in the same direction maybe not at the same speed. I still have misgivings about women boxing but I would never deny them the right to box if that's what they want to do. In a lot of ways it's better in terms of safety than men's boxing. It's hard to imagine a woman being killed in the ring certainly not at the hand(s) of Ms. Shields.

In the seventies there was a sad little film called "Gregory's girl" about (Gregory's fixation on) a school-girl who was a brilliant footballer (soccer) but had no opportunities to play. No women's football back then and male pride and changing room complications meant boys teams weren't interested either. It was fiction but there must have been real-life stories like that and I often think of that film when I see how women's football is now pulling in tens of thousands of spectators at the highest level and is still growing. Maybe there isn't a parallel with boxing but women should not be denied the chance to pursue their passion.j

Teflondon19 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 04:11 it was a good fight, you dont have to have knockdowns in it so why the hate?....maybe we should put u in with her.....theyd be knockdowns a plenty

btw - that Canadian chick is eve dicaire….a product of Yvon micheal…..guess google aint work for u that day :)

savannah marshall beats them all

There were no knockdowns in the Spence Garcia fight neither. And Shields was closer of stopping Hammer within the 2 minute limit in the 8th round than Spence was in 3 minutes of his entire fight with Garcia.

candyslim wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 03:15 I'm old school and my earliest thoughts on the subject were that women should not participate in combat, whether that's in the armed forces, or in a ring with gloves on, or anywhere else. Judo was my only concession.

These days I've moved with the times. I've moved in the same direction maybe not at the same speed. I still have misgivings about women boxing but I would never deny them the right to box if that's what they want to do. In a lot of ways it's better in terms of safety than men's boxing. It's hard to imagine a woman being killed in the ring certainly not at the hand(s) of Ms. Shields.

In the seventies there was a sad little film called "Gregory's girl" about (Gregory's fixation on) a school-girl who was a brilliant footballer (soccer) but had no opportunities to play. No women's football back then and male pride and changing room complications meant boys teams weren't interested either. It was fiction but there must have been real-life stories like that and I often think of that film when I see how women's football is now pulling in tens of thousands of spectators at the highest level and is still growing. Maybe there isn't a parallel with boxing but women should not be denied the chance to pursue their passion.j

Your earliest thoughts on the subject were right. You should have stuck by your guns. And then the "transgenders" will invade female boxing as they already have MMA ("Transgender MMA Fighter Fallon Fox beat her female opponent Tamika Brents so severely that she suffered a broken skull") . They are now destroying legitimate amateur womens sports as they force women to compete against deranged men. Female boxing, another symptom of a very sick and decadent society.

Some kid at a local high school refused to wrestle a girl. Claimed he had too much respect for females.

So he forfeited the match. More likely he was worried about losing a match to a girl. High school boys usually have limited respect for females.

He was released from the wrestling team.

Have to adapt to the times or you look like a fool.

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 10:12 Your earliest thoughts on the subject were right. You should have stuck by your guns. And then the "transgenders" will invade female boxing as they already have MMA ("Transgender MMA Fighter Fallon Fox beat her female opponent Tamika Brents so severely that she suffered a broken skull") . They are now destroying legitimate amateur womens sports as they force women to compete against deranged men. Female boxing, another symptom of a very sick and decadent society.

There are much better examples of a sick and decadent society than female boxing.

Violent crime and group think (seeing yourself thru your race, not not your individuality) come to mind as much better examples.

Hammer is a good fighter, but I saw in this fight just how one dimensional she is. She moves, she jabs and throws straight rights...and that's it.

Doesn't take long to figure out her pattern of attack because it's basically always the same. Shouldn't have taken nearly this long for somebody to recognize, and defeat this flaw, but that's Women's Boxing.

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑14 Apr 2019, 19:14 Maybe they should make it 3 min rounds. The Hammer fight would've been stopped in round 8 for sure.

And Rousey while fun, wasn't as skilled as they made her out to be. That's like saying Floyd Mayweather is a trash fighter because he doesn't fight like Gatti, who was a C level fighter.

Let's not forget former boxer Holly Holm beat Rousey basically leading boxing style jabs and foot work to her kicks.

ya thats mostly missing the points being made though

first off illya wasnt having a double standard related to ronda rousey, i dont know what you were trying to do with that.

second off one of the key reasons womens boxing struggles to attract fans is precisely becasue there is very little firepower to go with the skill. its not bashing claressa shields, brakhus, katie taylor etc skill or saying there trash, but there just is not the same entertainment in fights, and the divisions are extremely shallow so interesting matches are limited. how many male world champs have never scored a single knockdown? they should really think about extending the rounds to 3 mins

holly holm ktfo rousey with her foot to the head

Tony1244 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 11:45 There are much better examples of a sick and decadent society than female boxing.

Violent crime and group think (seeing yourself thru your race, not not your individuality) come to mind as much better examples.

Speaking of Decadent society. I've been discussing with a friend lately that our culture is beginning to resemble Rome more and more all the time.

Bare knuckle Boxing is back for the first time in over a century, You got a thing called "Mukbanging" where people just gorge themselves on food to an absurd manner, and people watch this sh*t on the internet?

You have all sorts of lewd and depraved pornography now the likes of which couldn't have even been imagined at one time.

Yes indeed, more and more like Rome all the time.

jamamb wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 11:50 ya thats mostly missing the points being made though

first off illya wasnt having a double standard related to ronda rousey, i dont know what you were trying to do with that.

second off one of the key reasons womens boxing struggles to attract fans is precisely becasue there is very little firepower to go with the skill. its not bashing claressa shields, brakhus, katie taylor etc skill or saying there trash, but there just is not the same entertainment in fights, and the divisions are extremely shallow so interesting matches are limited. how many male world champs have never scored a single knockdown? they should really think about extending the rounds to 3 mins

holly holm ktfo rousey with her foot to the head

Shields has yet to actually knock an opponent down right?

ya, how many times have you seen that among male world champs? or the 15-0(0) girl from canada? or an arguable p4p #1 with 8 stoppages in 40 fights? heck,, even sven ottke had some ktfos

there is simply very little firepower in womens boxing

decison after decision with not many big moments simply is not that appealing in general, as a sport. they maybe should really look at extending the rounds. hopefully that would add some extra moments, rather then just add more time for boringness.

since rousey was mentioned ---look at her fights, sure, she had limitations, but every one ended in a ktfo or submission. no uneventful decision after decision. ppl are simply more drawn to that, so its wrong to say entertainment is irrelvant and wins are all that count. if womens boxing was a lot more entertaining theyd be getting more attention.

Undisputed championship on the line, arguably top 2 female boxers in action. Still not interesting enough to watch

Cent0089 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 12:33 Undisputed championship on the line, arguably top 2 female boxers in action. Still not interesting enough to watch

So you DIDN'T watch it.

oogiebe wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 12:35 So you DIDN'T watch it.

Sorry for my english, i didn´t watch it woman boxing suck