Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 04:15
by littlepug
Put a bet in play on Patera at 20-1, by the time my bet had processed it had dropped to 5-1
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 04:28
by jamamb
didnt it expect it to come already though, patera seemed around sean dodd level, having already lost to him and winning closely over that italian dodd beat clisely as well
he did beat tatli but got 12-0'd in the rematch
i defo understand the stuff about ritson being limited, but even using hindsight patera just didnt strike me as the guy to beat him
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 04:32
by Bigdogsnose
Bit gutted about this one tbh. Thought he would maybe get through this one and then come unstuck somewhere down the line, like a Mendy type fighter., but this seems too early.
Maybe he bacame too reliant on his power. Early days he used to box behind the jab far more than he does now. The run of quick blowouts has not really prepared him for a tough 12 rounder.
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 04:33
by Deserter
jamamb wrote: ↑14 Oct 2018, 04:28i defo understand the stuff about ritson being limited, but even using hindsight patera just didnt strike me as the guy to beat him
Yeh, to be fair I should clarify that while I expected Ritson to come unstuck as soon as he stepped up, I didn't think this would be the fight where it would happen. Like Bigdogsnose I thought it would be against a Mendy type.
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 04:36
by jamamb
ya i can see that, i think a few had even suggested mendy next for ritson (prior to ritson losing)
but to lose like this to patera (imo ritson got almost shutout after the 3rd) is just not something i saw coming
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 05:10
by keirw
Ritson's last few opponents have met him in the middle of the ring and tried to fight fire with fire. Which is why he has got so many early KOs on his recent slate.
Got to give credit to Patera, he showed that a bit of lateral movement and throwing short sharp combinations whilst moving is all it takes to frustrate Ritson.
Ritson's jab seemed to lose a lot of it's snap before even the halfway point, which is a huge worry. His feet seemed to slow down also, as he struggled to close the ring down.
Sure I heard one of the commentators say that his team hadn't studied Patera at all, frankly, you could tell.
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
I really am struggling to get it when it comes to Allen.
I don’t find him particularly funny, he seems a bit of a weird chap and more than anything he really isn’t any good.
Fair play obviously, hope he earns well and gets big fights etc but he is very, very average at best.
He’s just the sort of bloke lots of British people take to.
Amusing, down to earth, not the best at what he does, has bounced back from a gambling addiction and failures in the ring etc.
I can see the appeal even if, like you, I’m not personally too sold on it.
Oh he seems like a decent bloke and I really hope he earns well etc but not sure boxing should cater for such stuff.
Has he even beat a top 100 heavyweight?
Reminds me of an age I thought was over. Road sweepers and security guards to pad the record a bit.
Lenroy Thomas!!!?
That's just the point though. Just an ordinary sort of bloke. Long on guts, short on ability. Painfully honest, likeable, no ego, does the best he can and doesn't give up. The perfect English underdog. What's not to get?
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 05:57
by candyslim
Full marks to Patera that was fully deserved. I'm very relieved he got the right decision in the UK, when it was close enough for a robbery to be on the cards. As it was one judge had Ritson 4 points up ffs. Ridiculous.
Not as ridiculous as the pre-fight odds though.
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 07:46
by Black Sam Bellamy
Ritson doesn’t move his head. I was suprised just how limited he was technically last night.
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 07:51
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 07:55
by Ruthless-RKO
I’m glad the right man won. The look on Hearn’s face at the end.. Ritson will come back from this. This was his 6th fight in 12 months I think. I know he had 2 years out aswell.
Patera was Euro level experienced. Ritson has no shame in losing. He fought a boxer last night. Got a little frustrated. The body shot that hurt him slowd him down, he should have kept the jab work up though.
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 08:42
by lurkyshaka
It was a great learning experience for Ritson if he's prepared to learn the lessons and ring some changes....
He looked superb early doors and the way he closes range with his footwork is exceptional, first few rounds he was absolutely bossing it and had Patera in trouble. BUT he was only bringing a one track attack and the Italian got used to it, got through the first few rounds and his better variety got him right back into the fight.
Paul Smith was excellent in commentary and highlighted where he went wrong. Ritson needed to be throwing combination and mixing his power shots up. But there was very few set up punches, he was far too obvious in his intent and wasted a lot of energy unleashing power shots that weren't landing cleanly.
After about 6 rounds, it was clear that Patera wasn't going to be blown away....so Ritson needed to reassess his approach. His jab was working well and he should have just got behind that and controlled things behind that rather than keep trying to hurt his opponent. This is where his corner seemed at fault because I never heard them tell him to do anything other than keep attacking straight ahead with brute strength and pressure. Its worrying that they apparently weren't able to see that the approach wasn't working and where it needed to be tweaked? But perhaps they did tell him but he wasn't able to adjust.
It was a fight that Ritson could and should have won with very simple adjustments. It became very frustrating to watch because the fight was slipping away but the basic adjustments weren't made. Perhaps his mindset going in was the problem because all the talk was of being able to stop Patera as opposed to just winning the fight.
All that said that 12 round fight is the best learning tool he could have, all the flaws are there to see and be improved upon. And I've no doubt he could beat Patera in a rematch. The Italian was fighting to full capacity last night, I think Ritson has much more scope....but just didn't know how to go about it.
But with the correct application to his craft there's no doubt he's still go big potential, but there is much work to do.
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Always comes across as a stand up guy, Ritson.He can learn from thus and come back, he is young enough.
If Patera wants to come back to the UK I wouldn't mind seeing him in with Tommy Coyle, stylewise that would be an interesting bout.
Didn't stick to a gameplan is typical BS fighters come out with. Ritson was thoroughly beaten and did what he has always done in fights. He just stepped up a level and got found out.
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 09:21
by candyslim
lurkyshaka wrote: ↑14 Oct 2018, 08:42
It was a great learning experience for Ritson if he's prepared to learn the lessons and ring some changes....
He looked superb early doors and the way he closes range with his footwork is exceptional, first few rounds he was absolutely bossing it and had Patera in trouble. BUT he was only bringing a one track attack and the Italian got used to it, got through the first few rounds and his better variety got him right back into the fight.
Paul Smith was excellent in commentary and highlighted where he went wrong. Ritson needed to be throwing combination and mixing his power shots up. But there was very few set up punches, he was far too obvious in his intent and wasted a lot of energy unleashing power shots that weren't landing cleanly.
After about 6 rounds, it was clear that Patera wasn't going to be blown away....so Ritson needed to reassess his approach. His jab was working well and he should have just got behind that and controlled things behind that rather than keep trying to hurt his opponent. This is where his corner seemed at fault because I never heard them tell him to do anything other than keep attacking straight ahead with brute strength and pressure. Its worrying that they apparently weren't able to see that the approach wasn't working and where it needed to be tweaked? But perhaps they did tell him but he wasn't able to adjust.
It was a fight that Ritson could and should have won with very simple adjustments. It became very frustrating to watch because the fight was slipping away but the basic adjustments weren't made. Perhaps his mindset going in was the problem because all the talk was of being able to stop Patera as opposed to just winning the fight.
All that said that 12 round fight is the best learning tool he could have, all the flaws are there to see and be improved upon. And I've no doubt he could beat Patera in a rematch. The Italian was fighting to full capacity last night, I think Ritson has much more scope....but just didn't know how to go about it.
But with the correct application to his craft there's no doubt he's still go big potential, but there is much work to do.
That's a very good post
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 09:52
by Ruthless-RKO
Hearn could only be honest.
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 09:54
by Ruthless-RKO
Is he going to be another British level hype that never wins a world title?
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 10:29
by handsofstone
The thing with Ritson is if he moves up to 140 he'll lost all the advantages he has at 135,
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
lurkyshaka wrote: ↑14 Oct 2018, 08:42
It was a great learning experience for Ritson if he's prepared to learn the lessons and ring some changes....
He looked superb early doors and the way he closes range with his footwork is exceptional, first few rounds he was absolutely bossing it and had Patera in trouble. BUT he was only bringing a one track attack and the Italian got used to it, got through the first few rounds and his better variety got him right back into the fight.
Paul Smith was excellent in commentary and highlighted where he went wrong. Ritson needed to be throwing combination and mixing his power shots up. But there was very few set up punches, he was far too obvious in his intent and wasted a lot of energy unleashing power shots that weren't landing cleanly.
After about 6 rounds, it was clear that Patera wasn't going to be blown away....so Ritson needed to reassess his approach. His jab was working well and he should have just got behind that and controlled things behind that rather than keep trying to hurt his opponent. This is where his corner seemed at fault because I never heard them tell him to do anything other than keep attacking straight ahead with brute strength and pressure. Its worrying that they apparently weren't able to see that the approach wasn't working and where it needed to be tweaked? But perhaps they did tell him but he wasn't able to adjust.
It was a fight that Ritson could and should have won with very simple adjustments. It became very frustrating to watch because the fight was slipping away but the basic adjustments weren't made. Perhaps his mindset going in was the problem because all the talk was of being able to stop Patera as opposed to just winning the fight.
All that said that 12 round fight is the best learning tool he could have, all the flaws are there to see and be improved upon. And I've no doubt he could beat Patera in a rematch. The Italian was fighting to full capacity last night, I think Ritson has much more scope....but just didn't know how to go about it.
But with the correct application to his craft there's no doubt he's still go big potential, but there is much work to do.
That's a very good post
Thanks....I just hope the changes will be made. But it does appear that they're already talking of bringing in help with nutrition and conditioning. But in all honesty I think he needs some extra dimensions in the corner to bring out his best and add the extra wrinkles he'll need to truly reach his full potential.
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 11:08
by samwbr
He's achieved a hell of a lot in 12 months. Sure he can kick on again.
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
lurkyshaka wrote: ↑14 Oct 2018, 08:42
It was a great learning experience for Ritson if he's prepared to learn the lessons and ring some changes....
He looked superb early doors and the way he closes range with his footwork is exceptional, first few rounds he was absolutely bossing it and had Patera in trouble. BUT he was only bringing a one track attack and the Italian got used to it, got through the first few rounds and his better variety got him right back into the fight.
Paul Smith was excellent in commentary and highlighted where he went wrong. Ritson needed to be throwing combination and mixing his power shots up. But there was very few set up punches, he was far too obvious in his intent and wasted a lot of energy unleashing power shots that weren't landing cleanly.
After about 6 rounds, it was clear that Patera wasn't going to be blown away....so Ritson needed to reassess his approach. His jab was working well and he should have just got behind that and controlled things behind that rather than keep trying to hurt his opponent. This is where his corner seemed at fault because I never heard them tell him to do anything other than keep attacking straight ahead with brute strength and pressure. Its worrying that they apparently weren't able to see that the approach wasn't working and where it needed to be tweaked? But perhaps they did tell him but he wasn't able to adjust.
It was a fight that Ritson could and should have won with very simple adjustments. It became very frustrating to watch because the fight was slipping away but the basic adjustments weren't made. Perhaps his mindset going in was the problem because all the talk was of being able to stop Patera as opposed to just winning the fight.
All that said that 12 round fight is the best learning tool he could have, all the flaws are there to see and be improved upon. And I've no doubt he could beat Patera in a rematch. The Italian was fighting to full capacity last night, I think Ritson has much more scope....but just didn't know how to go about it.
But with the correct application to his craft there's no doubt he's still go big potential, but there is much work to do.
That's a very good post
Thanks....I just hope the changes will be made. But it does appear that they're already talking of bringing in help with nutrition and conditioning. But in all honesty I think he needs some extra dimensions in the corner to bring out his best and add the extra wrinkles he'll need to truly reach his full potential.
At least now he'll be aware there are flaws that need addressing. Those aren't necessarily discernible while your knocking over all comers. Let's hope that knowledge will help him find those flaws and take an iron to them.
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 12:41
by BitPlayer
Terminator666 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2018, 04:11
Think Ritson needs a plan b in fights- can’t see him going any further otherwise- hope he can because he is entertaining
I think he can improve, and think he will. I don't think he'll get to the top, but I think he can do fine. He's strong in some areas, he just needs to work on his head movement, and learn to use feints, soft punches and combos to open people up.
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 15:00
by KiwiRider
He's 25. With the right team and I think he has the right attitude, this can be a great learning experience.
We see it all the time- guys who blast their way up getting found out at a certain level. His lack of adjustment was concerning though, I was shouting at the telly to no avail.
More 10 round fights against some tough guys he can't blast out.
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 15:16
by black panther
Yeah it’s a bit harsh to write him off after one loss. Yes he stepped up and lost. But he’s young and has time to improve. He may not go on to be a world beater but to say he can’t improve when this was the first time he’s been twelve and after only 17 fights. Well what can I say.
It just depends on him really. If he has the right mindset and acknowledges that he needs to improve and be more varied in his work he could potentially beat Patera in a rematch. Really nice, likeable lad I wish him the best. One thing is for sure it will be rare we see him in a dull fight.
Re: Round-by-Round: Lewis Ritson vs. Francesco Patera - 13 October 2018 - 13 October 2018
Posted: 14 Oct 2018, 15:25
by black panther
KiwiRider wrote: ↑14 Oct 2018, 15:00
He's 25. With the right team and I think he has the right attitude, this can be a great learning experience.
We see it all the time- guys who blast their way up getting found out at a certain level. His lack of adjustment was concerning though, I was shouting at the telly to no avail.
More 10 round fights against some tough guys he can't blast out.
Bang on mate
I don’t think he’ll ever be a very cerebral fighter but little adjustments like using his jab more, varying the power and speed in his shots as opposed to loading up could see him become more effective.
I’d like it if he checked out some Kostya Tsyzu videos. Despite not being the most fleet flooted, He was great at coming forward and countering, cutting off the ring etc. He had a long and super stellar amateur career mind. And that power...
