ironbeard wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 13:04
Correct, he was not. He was gifted the fight v Parker though.
Partially giftet vs. Del too
He's been riding his luck for sure - but overrated ?
I think just about everyone rates him as what he is - an elite gatekeeper - much like DelBoy before him.
He'll give anyone a really good fight but is a little bit short of the best. He's improved a lot and may improve a little more - but does anyone think he'll improve enough to beat Fury/AJ ? No.
That is a fair assessment. He would be stopped by Wilder, and I think that both Ortiz and Povetkin would still beat him. I would favor Usyk over him right now. Pulev would likely confound him too.
This fight is right in the sweet spot for Whyte and Chisora.
I do like Whyte.
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
He's been riding his luck for sure - but overrated ?
I think just about everyone rates him as what he is - an elite gatekeeper - much like DelBoy before him.
He'll give anyone a really good fight but is a little bit short of the best. He's improved a lot and may improve a little more - but does anyone think he'll improve enough to beat Fury/AJ ? No.
That is a fair assessment. He would be stopped by Wilder, and I think that both Ortiz and Povetkin would still beat him. I would favor Usyk over him right now. Pulev would likely confound him too.
This fight is right in the sweet spot for Whyte and Chisora.
I do like Whyte.
I rate him a little higher than you.
Pulev has more 'class' in his little finger, but I think Whyte could find a way to win. Pov would outbox him for a while but Whyte would get to him. He's got every chance of beating Wilder in the UK too.
Anyone can see he has little more than a remote puncher's chance vs Usyk, however. .
He has been lucky - but "you make your own luck".
The Parker fight is the best example of this. Parker is better than Whyte and coulda/woulda/shoulda won - but Whyte has that 'dog' in him. A knack for beating better talents. He basically won off an accidental headbutt - but he took whatever luck he had and ran with it, while Parker was "too nice",
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
He's been riding his luck for sure - but overrated ?
I think just about everyone rates him as what he is - an elite gatekeeper - much like DelBoy before him.
He'll give anyone a really good fight but is a little bit short of the best. He's improved a lot and may improve a little more - but does anyone think he'll improve enough to beat Fury/AJ ? No.
That is a fair assessment. He would be stopped by Wilder, and I think that both Ortiz and Povetkin would still beat him. I would favor Usyk over him right now. Pulev would likely confound him too.
This fight is right in the sweet spot for Whyte and Chisora.
I do like Whyte.
I rate him a little higher than you.
Pulev has more 'class' in his little finger, but I think Whyte could find a way to win. Pov would outbox him for a while but Whyte would get to him. He's got every chance of beating Wilder in the UK too.
Anyone can see he has little more than a remote puncher's chance vs Usyk, however. .
He has been lucky - but "you make your own luck".
The Parker fight is the best example of this. Parker is better than Whyte and coulda/woulda/shoulda won - but Whyte has that 'dog' in him. A knack for beating better talents. He basically won off an accidental headbutt - but he took whatever luck he had and ran with it, while Parker was "too nice",
Again, decent breakdown. He no doubt would have a fighting chance against them all. His worst style matchup would be Fury, but I favor them all over him.
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
Posted: 08 Dec 2018, 12:50
by HellraiserBoxing
Dillian Whyte v Dereck Chisora analysis and prediction
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
Posted: 10 Dec 2018, 20:23
by Ruthless-RKO
Looks like Whyte tried getting under Chisora’s skin after the decent Gloves are Off.
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 12:20
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
No I don't want to see Del Boy in the ring with Joshua. No good can come of that.
I want to see Del retire after this fight and open a nice menswear shop in Souf London called "Dapper Gent"
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
He's been riding his luck for sure - but overrated ?
I think just about everyone rates him as what he is - an elite gatekeeper - much like DelBoy before him.
He'll give anyone a really good fight but is a little bit short of the best. He's improved a lot and may improve a little more - but does anyone think he'll improve enough to beat Fury/AJ ? No.
That is a fair assessment. He would be stopped by Wilder, and I think that both Ortiz and Povetkin would still beat him. I would favor Usyk over him right now. Pulev would likely confound him too.
This fight is right in the sweet spot for Whyte and Chisora.
I do like Whyte.
I rate him a little higher than you.
Pulev has more 'class' in his little finger, but I think Whyte could find a way to win. Pov would outbox him for a while but Whyte would get to him. He's got every chance of beating Wilder in the UK too.
Anyone can see he has little more than a remote puncher's chance vs Usyk, however. .
He has been lucky - but "you make your own luck".
The Parker fight is the best example of this. Parker is better than Whyte and coulda/woulda/shoulda won - but Whyte has that 'dog' in him. A knack for beating better talents. He basically won off an accidental headbutt - but he took whatever luck he had and ran with it, while Parker was "too nice",
I definitely don't see what you're in seeing in Whyte lol. I always thought Parker was highly overrated aswell. Not the best boxing brain, not a particularly hard one punch hitting heavyweight and has quite severe stamina issues. Good hand speed and a good chin but that's about it.
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 16:33
by Nondescript
I honestly couldn't give a rats arse about this fight. I'd much rather see Whyte fight the likes of Miller, breazeale or Ortiz than see a rehash of Whyte-Chisora.
But as old Eddie would say " The casuals love it!"
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 16:39
by oogiebe
Nondescript wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 16:33
I honestly couldn't give a rats arse about this fight. I'd much rather see Whyte fight the likes of Miller, breazeale or Ortiz than see a rehash of Whyte-Chisora.
But as old Eddie would say " The casuals love it!"
Amen Brother. Whyte/Miller!!!
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
Nondescript wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 16:33
I honestly couldn't give a rats arse about this fight. I'd much rather see Whyte fight the likes of Miller, breazeale or Ortiz than see a rehash of Whyte-Chisora.
But as old Eddie would say " The casuals love it!"
Amen Brother. Whyte/Miller!!!
I think Miller would beat Whyte for what it's worth. I think he would grind him down and probably stop him in the later rounds.
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
Nondescript wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 16:33
I honestly couldn't give a rats arse about this fight. I'd much rather see Whyte fight the likes of Miller, breazeale or Ortiz than see a rehash of Whyte-Chisora.
But as old Eddie would say " The casuals love it!"
Amen Brother. Whyte/Miller!!!
I think Miller would beat Whyte for what it's worth. I think he would grind him down and probably stop him in the later rounds.
I just want to see more competitive HW fights! While I think Miller looks to be that guy, he's still unproven to be certain.
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
oogiebe wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 16:39
Amen Brother. Whyte/Miller!!!
I think Miller would beat Whyte for what it's worth. I think he would grind him down and probably stop him in the later rounds.
I just want to see more competitive HW fights! While I think Miller looks to be that guy, he's still unproven to be certain.
Ah yeah, don't get me wrong, I don't think Miller is some flawless beast who will run through the heavyweight division but I think he's good enough to beat the limited Whyte. I think Breazeale as limited as he is, would stand a good shot at beating Whyte as well.
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 17:42
by Ruthless-RKO
Shîttest thing about boxing. Boxers afraid to lose their unbeaten record. I don’t mind when boxers lose an early one in their careers before fully stepping up to world level. Too many try to protect their 0’s..
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 17:49
by oogiebe
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 17:42
Shîttest thing about boxing. Boxers afraid to lose their unbeaten record. I don’t mind when boxers lose an early one in their careers before fully stepping up to world level. Too many try to protect their 0’s..
And how asinine is that considering 99% of ATG's lost at least one fight. How many ATG's learned so much from their first loss? Louis; Ali; Lewis; Sanchez; Robinson; Arguello; etc.
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 17:42
Shîttest thing about boxing. Boxers afraid to lose their unbeaten record. I don’t mind when boxers lose an early one in their careers before fully stepping up to world level. Too many try to protect their 0’s..
And how asinine is that considering 99% of ATG's lost at least one fight. How many ATG's learned so much from their first loss? Louis; Ali; Lewis; Sanchez; Robinson; Arguello; etc.
Exactly. Most of them even avenged their losses.
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 17:42
Shîttest thing about boxing. Boxers afraid to lose their unbeaten record. I don’t mind when boxers lose an early one in their careers before fully stepping up to world level. Too many try to protect their 0’s..
And how asinine is that considering 99% of ATG's lost at least one fight. How many ATG's learned so much from their first loss? Louis; Ali; Lewis; Sanchez; Robinson; Arguello; etc.
Thumbs up for using the word ‘asinine’, doesn’t get used anywhere near enough these days
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 17:42
Shîttest thing about boxing. Boxers afraid to lose their unbeaten record. I don’t mind when boxers lose an early one in their careers before fully stepping up to world level. Too many try to protect their 0’s..
And how asinine is that considering 99% of ATG's lost at least one fight. How many ATG's learned so much from their first loss? Louis; Ali; Lewis; Sanchez; Robinson; Arguello; etc.
Thumbs up for using the word ‘asinine’, doesn’t get used anywhere near enough these days
With boxing promotions the last few years, "asinine" is making a comeback!
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 18:27
by Monte Fisto
For me, Whyte takes this one by late stoppage or wide points. Del is in decline and pulled a rabbit out the hat last time out.
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 18:28
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
No I don't want to see Del Boy in the ring with Joshua. No good can come of that.
I want to see Del retire after this fight and open a nice menswear shop in Souf London called "Dapper Gent"
DelBoy isn't from the ghetto at all - he grew up in the Zimbabwe embassy - probably the most privileged boxer currently active !
I'd go to his shop for sure - who doesn't love purple pimp-kaftans, enormous sheepskin coats, hip-hop bling accessorised with leopard-print hats ?
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
No I don't want to see Del Boy in the ring with Joshua. No good can come of that.
I want to see Del retire after this fight and open a nice menswear shop in Souf London called "Dapper Gent"
DelBoy isn't from the ghetto at all - he grew up in the Zimbabwe embassy - probably the most privileged boxer currently active !
I'd go to his shop for sure - who doesn't love purple pimp-kaftans, enormous sheepskin coats, hip-hop bling accessorised with leopard-print hats ?
Apparently Del’s wodded! Investments and all that..
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 19:38
by Oiky
Haye does talk sh*t doesn't he
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 20:19
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II - 22 December 2018
Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 20:20
by Ruthless-RKO
Chisora is basically just gonna stay against the ropes again against Whyte. Take a tonne of punches and throw some mean shots back at him.
