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Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 17:36
by boxing_rocks
I actually think that Benavidez may be the best SMW now. Callum is overrated after beating Groves.

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 17:39
by oogiebe
boxing_rocks wrote: 14 Jan 2019, 17:36 I actually think that Benavidez may be the best SMW now. Callum is overrated after beating Groves.
I tend not to think that, but you never know. Benavidez is only 22 and has much to still learn and/or prove. Callum, I don't think is overrated, but more underappreciated. Should be a fun year at SMW.

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 17:40
by Ruthless-RKO
boxing_rocks wrote: 14 Jan 2019, 16:52
Well if stopped taking shït! He’d be defending his WBC belt.

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 17:44
by oogiebe
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Jan 2019, 17:40
boxing_rocks wrote: 14 Jan 2019, 16:52
Well if stopped taking shït! He’d be defending his WBC belt.
...and beating J'Leon Love won't do much in proving Benavidez's greatness. What kind of an opponent is that! :D

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 17:50
by boxing_rocks
oogiebe wrote: 14 Jan 2019, 17:39
boxing_rocks wrote: 14 Jan 2019, 17:36 I actually think that Benavidez may be the best SMW now. Callum is overrated after beating Groves.
I tend not to think that, but you never know. Benavidez is only 22 and has much to still learn and/or prove. Callum, I don't think is overrated, but more underappreciated. Should be a fun year at SMW.
Post-surgery chinny Groves is Callum's only good win. Of course Benavidez also doesn't have an impressive resume, but as you mentioned, he is just 22 ...

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 17:53
by oogiebe
boxing_rocks wrote: 14 Jan 2019, 17:50
oogiebe wrote: 14 Jan 2019, 17:39
boxing_rocks wrote: 14 Jan 2019, 17:36 I actually think that Benavidez may be the best SMW now. Callum is overrated after beating Groves.
I tend not to think that, but you never know. Benavidez is only 22 and has much to still learn and/or prove. Callum, I don't think is overrated, but more underappreciated. Should be a fun year at SMW.
Post-surgery chinny Groves is Callum's only good win. Of course Benavidez also doesn't have an impressive resume, but as you mentioned, he is just 22 ...
He certainly has the 'stuff' to go far. Not much of an amateur career which so far doesn't show, but when he goes up against the best in the division, he'll need some more experience.

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 18:28
by Ruthless-RKO
oogiebe wrote: 14 Jan 2019, 17:44
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Jan 2019, 17:40
boxing_rocks wrote: 14 Jan 2019, 16:52
Well if stopped taking shït! He’d be defending his WBC belt.
...and beating J'Leon Love won't do much in proving Benavidez's greatness. What kind of an opponent is that! :D
Is that his opponent?

Didn’t Quillin just beat him.

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 18:28
by oogiebe
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Jan 2019, 18:28
oogiebe wrote: 14 Jan 2019, 17:44
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Jan 2019, 17:40

Well if stopped taking shït! He’d be defending his WBC belt.
...and beating J'Leon Love won't do much in proving Benavidez's greatness. What kind of an opponent is that! :D
Is that his opponent?

Didn’t Quillin just beat him.
Yes and yes...

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 18:29
by jamamb
boxing_rocks wrote: 14 Jan 2019, 17:36 I actually think that Benavidez may be the best SMW now. Callum is overrated after beating Groves.
lol ya and benavidez got up to decision ron gavril :lol:

hes also on coke already

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 18:32
by gilgamesh
boxing_rocks wrote: 14 Jan 2019, 17:50
oogiebe wrote: 14 Jan 2019, 17:39
boxing_rocks wrote: 14 Jan 2019, 17:36 I actually think that Benavidez may be the best SMW now. Callum is overrated after beating Groves.
I tend not to think that, but you never know. Benavidez is only 22 and has much to still learn and/or prove. Callum, I don't think is overrated, but more underappreciated. Should be a fun year at SMW.
Post-surgery chinny Groves is Callum's only good win. Of course Benavidez also doesn't have an impressive resume, but as you mentioned, he is just 22 ...
Callum's resume at 168 right now is better than anyone else's which isn't saying a lot because it's a fairly shallow division for the time being, but he's got better wins than the other guys do.

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 23:16
by TheBeast
Who in the top10 can Caleb beat? I'm struggling here... again a weak champ replaced a weak champ

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 00:41
by Mexi-Box
caldo2025 wrote: 13 Jan 2019, 23:15
Mexi-Box wrote: 26 Dec 2018, 03:42 I can't stand Plant's style. I hope Uzcategui wins by brutal stoppage.
Not surprised with your dumb ridiculous comments. You wouldn’t know a class fighter if he stole ur burrito and knocked out your mule (aka your vehicle).
What ridiculous comment? Plant's style is awful. The only thing ridiculous is that midly racist shit your throwing at me because I live inside your head. :clap:

What a complete moron. You slap a guy around so much that he starts to take it personally.

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 05:20
by caldo2025
Mexi-Box wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 00:41
caldo2025 wrote: 13 Jan 2019, 23:15
Mexi-Box wrote: 26 Dec 2018, 03:42 I can't stand Plant's style. I hope Uzcategui wins by brutal stoppage.
Not surprised with your dumb ridiculous comments. You wouldn’t know a class fighter if he stole ur burrito and knocked out your mule (aka your vehicle).
What ridiculous comment? Plant's style is awful. The only thing ridiculous is that midly racist poo your throwing at me because I live inside your head. :clap:

What a complete moron. You slap a guy around so much that he starts to take it personally.
Every Boxing Writer today commended Plant today for his great defense and his offensive output (style). So you once prove that you know nothing about this sport. Oh you prefer the Mexican style, walk down the whole fight while taking a beating with the hope that he may get the guy in the end? That’s not a great style dude. FYI.

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 15:06
by Mexi-Box
caldo2025 wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 05:20
Mexi-Box wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 00:41
caldo2025 wrote: 13 Jan 2019, 23:15

Not surprised with your dumb ridiculous comments. You wouldn’t know a class fighter if he stole ur burrito and knocked out your mule (aka your vehicle).
What ridiculous comment? Plant's style is awful. The only thing ridiculous is that midly racist poo your throwing at me because I live inside your head. :clap:

What a complete moron. You slap a guy around so much that he starts to take it personally.
Every Boxing Writer today commended Plant today for his great defense and his offensive output (style). So you once prove that you know nothing about this sport. Oh you prefer the Mexican style, walk down the whole fight while taking a beating with the hope that he may get the guy in the end? That’s not a great style dude. FYI.
I permanently live inside your head now I see. As I said, you come up with these stupid half-assed predictions and think you're the boss. Guess what, you'll never come to close to the way I slap you around because I actually make predictions, not just half-assed attempts. I love that I live permanently in your head, rent free.

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 15:32
by caldo2025
Mexi-Box wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 15:06
caldo2025 wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 05:20
Mexi-Box wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 00:41

What ridiculous comment? Plant's style is awful. The only thing ridiculous is that midly racist poo your throwing at me because I live inside your head. :clap:

What a complete moron. You slap a guy around so much that he starts to take it personally.
Every Boxing Writer today commended Plant today for his great defense and his offensive output (style). So you once prove that you know nothing about this sport. Oh you prefer the Mexican style, walk down the whole fight while taking a beating with the hope that he may get the guy in the end? That’s not a great style dude. FYI.
I permanently live inside your head now I see. As I said, you come up with these stupid half-assed predictions and think you're the boss. Guess what, you'll never come to close to the way I slap you around because I actually make predictions, not just half-assed attempts. I love that I live permanently in your head, rent free.
I’ve been meaning to ask you if you wouldn’t mind cleaning up a bit and stop parking on the lawn? I work hard to keep the place looking nice and just because you live rent free, it doesn’t mean that you can’t help out around the place. Thanks.

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 15:38
by DrDuke
Plant looked quite impressive. Rational boxing, excellent fundamentals and footwoork, good defence-wise, yet confident in the exchanges, solid work with changing the levels. However, on the one hand, he blew an ending a bit, but, on the other hand, it was more of a safety-first approach after a great deal of won rounds. The hype around this guy is justified, he looked classy.

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 15:42
by oogiebe
DrDuke wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 15:38 Plant looked quite impressive. Rational boxing, excellent fundamentals and footwoork, good defence-wise, yet confident in the exchanges, solid work with changing the levels. However, on the one hand, he blew an ending a bit, but, on the other hand, it was more of a safety-first approach after a great deal of won rounds. The hype around this guy is justified, he looked classy.
I don't know if he went into prevent defense as a strategy or because he was a bit gassed. His output really dropped off later in the fight, around round 8/9, but the scoring was so one-sided by then. Uzcategui never really pressed after that, like I thought he could've. Great win for Plant. Terrific performance!

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 15:49
by DrDuke
oogiebe wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 15:42
DrDuke wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 15:38 Plant looked quite impressive. Rational boxing, excellent fundamentals and footwoork, good defence-wise, yet confident in the exchanges, solid work with changing the levels. However, on the one hand, he blew an ending a bit, but, on the other hand, it was more of a safety-first approach after a great deal of won rounds. The hype around this guy is justified, he looked classy.
I don't know if he went into prevent defense as a strategy or because he was a bit gassed. His output really dropped off later in the fight, around round 8/9, but the scoring was so one-sided by then. Uzcategui never really pressed after that, like I thought he could've. Great win for Plant. Terrific performance!
Gassing out was probably a factor too, he became more defence-oriented also in order not to lose the remaining resources. Anyway it was difficult for Uzcategui to come back after being outworked, outclassed and dropped, he was only able to use a couple of given little chances.

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 15:53
by oogiebe
DrDuke wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 15:49
oogiebe wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 15:42
DrDuke wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 15:38 Plant looked quite impressive. Rational boxing, excellent fundamentals and footwoork, good defence-wise, yet confident in the exchanges, solid work with changing the levels. However, on the one hand, he blew an ending a bit, but, on the other hand, it was more of a safety-first approach after a great deal of won rounds. The hype around this guy is justified, he looked classy.
I don't know if he went into prevent defense as a strategy or because he was a bit gassed. His output really dropped off later in the fight, around round 8/9, but the scoring was so one-sided by then. Uzcategui never really pressed after that, like I thought he could've. Great win for Plant. Terrific performance!
Gassing out was probably a factor too, he became more defence-oriented also in order not to lose the remaining resources. Anyway it was difficult for Uzcategui to come back after being outworked, outclassed and dropped, he was only able to use a couple of given little chances.
A fun fight to watch it was. Really dominant performance by Plant through 7. I'm still jazzed by the Brandon Figueroa fight. That kid looked really good!

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 15:55
by DrDuke
oogiebe wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 15:53
DrDuke wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 15:49
oogiebe wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 15:42
I don't know if he went into prevent defense as a strategy or because he was a bit gassed. His output really dropped off later in the fight, around round 8/9, but the scoring was so one-sided by then. Uzcategui never really pressed after that, like I thought he could've. Great win for Plant. Terrific performance!
Gassing out was probably a factor too, he became more defence-oriented also in order not to lose the remaining resources. Anyway it was difficult for Uzcategui to come back after being outworked, outclassed and dropped, he was only able to use a couple of given little chances.
A fun fight to watch it was. Really dominant performance by Plant through 7. I'm still jazzed by the Brandon Figueroa fight. That kid looked really good!
Yeah, I'm now really intrigued with Plant too. Gotta see him in the unifications.

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 15:58
by oogiebe
DrDuke wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 15:55
oogiebe wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 15:53
DrDuke wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 15:49

Gassing out was probably a factor too, he became more defence-oriented also in order not to lose the remaining resources. Anyway it was difficult for Uzcategui to come back after being outworked, outclassed and dropped, he was only able to use a couple of given little chances.
A fun fight to watch it was. Really dominant performance by Plant through 7. I'm still jazzed by the Brandon Figueroa fight. That kid looked really good!
Yeah, I'm now really intrigued with Plant too. Gotta see him in the unifications.
Unifications or just going for one of the vacant belts (WBC/IBO) which could mean not having to go against one of the top dogs just yet.

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 16:02
by DrDuke
oogiebe wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 15:58
DrDuke wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 15:55
oogiebe wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 15:53
A fun fight to watch it was. Really dominant performance by Plant through 7. I'm still jazzed by the Brandon Figueroa fight. That kid looked really good!
Yeah, I'm now really intrigued with Plant too. Gotta see him in the unifications.
Unifications or just going for one of the vacant belts (WBC/IBO) which could mean not having to go against one of the top dogs just yet.
Maybe not some of the top dogs right now, but, of course, there still shouldn't be a long marinading of big fights.

Re: Jose Uzcategui vs. Caleb Plant - January 13, 2019

Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 16:07
by oogiebe
DrDuke wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 16:02
oogiebe wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 15:58
DrDuke wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 15:55
Yeah, I'm now really intrigued with Plant too. Gotta see him in the unifications.
Unifications or just going for one of the vacant belts (WBC/IBO) which could mean not having to go against one of the top dogs just yet.
Maybe not some of the top dogs right now, but, of course, there still shouldn't be a long marinading of big fights.
Oh Absolutely! :TU: