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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 04 Apr 2019, 14:34
by ValMar
oogiebe wrote: 04 Apr 2019, 14:14 On the British and Irish post, I asked if you can train yourself into a decent chin! :lol:
This is the tricky question. I am not quite sure, but I think the answer is NO.

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 04 Apr 2019, 14:36
by oogiebe
ValMar wrote: 04 Apr 2019, 14:34 This is the tricky question. I am not quite sure, but I think the answer is NO.
I couldn't help but think of that during the time I was reading all the wonderful changes Khan's made. Um...it doesn't matter. :lol:

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 04 Apr 2019, 14:46
by ValMar
oogiebe wrote: 04 Apr 2019, 14:36 I couldn't help but think of that during the time I was reading all the wonderful changes Khan's made. Um...it doesn't matter. :lol:
Khan had some moments in the past, but against the Crawford he is lost in advance. OK, he will be be a rich man after the match.

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 04 Apr 2019, 14:52
by oogiebe
ValMar wrote: 04 Apr 2019, 14:46 Khan had some moments in the past, but against the Crawford he is lost in advance. OK, he will be be a rich man after the match.
He has, but now it's KTFO watch. Khan always comes to fight and has some pretty decent tools. If he can avoid being tagged, he'll still be up against a superior fighter. So yeah...Khan lost already.

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 04 Apr 2019, 14:55
by Onetimeonly
ValMar wrote: 04 Apr 2019, 14:46 Khan had some moments in the past, but against the Crawford he is lost in advance. OK, he will be be a rich man after the match.
He's already very rich. It surprises me he's so disliked. If boxing was full of Khan's it would be a much better sport. He's a rare modern fighter like froch and Dawson that will fight anyone.

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 04 Apr 2019, 14:55
by ValMar
oogiebe wrote: 04 Apr 2019, 14:52 He has, but now it's KTFO watch. Khan always comes to fight and has some pretty decent tools. If he can avoid being tagged, he'll still be up against a superior fighter. So yeah...Khan lost already.
Simple.............

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 05 Apr 2019, 10:02
by Onekrazyrican
yes Khan deserves a lot of respect. Hes either one of the bravests fighters ever or plain crazy. The thing about how he gets KTFO is that not only viewers know its very likely it happens again, he must know it himself. He still goes out there and gives a good account of himself every time. Going into a fight thinking "If this guy hits me ill probably get put to sleep again" has to be awful.

I worry about his long term health. If hes well financially and this fight ends as expected with him laying flat out of his senses I hope he calls it a career.

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 05 Apr 2019, 11:14
by Ruthless-RKO
ValMar wrote: 04 Apr 2019, 14:34 This is the tricky question. I am not quite sure, but I think the answer is NO.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... 4JfA_sGC_S

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 05 Apr 2019, 12:12
by ValMar
Thanks ! This is a very interesting video, but still I think the answer is NO. This is my personal opinion, of course.

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 05 Apr 2019, 12:49
by Ruthless-RKO
ValMar wrote: 05 Apr 2019, 12:12 Thanks ! This is a very interesting video, but still I think the answer is NO. This is my personal opinion, of course.
Obviously, will not work for just anyone..

You reckon is Khan tried it, his chin may improve?

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 05 Apr 2019, 13:02
by ValMar
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 05 Apr 2019, 12:49 Obviously, will not work for just anyone..

You reckon is Khan tried it, his chin may improve?
I think the chin issue is much more connected with the genetics than with the training.
I doubt that any fighter (including Khan) can improve his weak chin.
This is something like punch power - some fighters have mighty power, some fighters have not, and there is no training methods to change this a lot.

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 05 Apr 2019, 13:07
by oogiebe
ValMar wrote: 05 Apr 2019, 13:02 I think the chin issue is much more connected with the genetics than with the training.
I doubt that any fighter (including Khan) can improve his weak chin.
This is something like punch power - some fighters have mighty power, some fighters have not, and there is no training methods to change this a lot.
I agree. I think the only thing you can do to MAYBE improve taking a shot is thickening your neck. The rest is just what Val says...genetics.

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 05 Apr 2019, 13:09
by Thomastearns
Onekrazyrican wrote: 05 Apr 2019, 10:02 yes Khan deserves a lot of respect. Hes either one of the bravests fighters ever or plain crazy. The thing about how he gets KTFO is that not only viewers know its very likely it happens again, he must know it himself. He still goes out there and gives a good account of himself every time. Going into a fight thinking "If this guy hits me ill probably get put to sleep again" has to be awful.

I worry about his long term health. If hes well financially and this fight ends as expected with him laying flat out of his senses I hope he calls it a career.
Khan like most boxers fights for the money, but unlike most boxers he seems to have zero regard for his own health. This could indicate tremendous stupidity and/or tremendous self belief.

I'd say to Amir, go out there and win in shadow style. Put the pressure on Crawford to make something happen, frustrate him and punish him if he gets reckless. If necessary, a boring win is nothing to be ashamed of against Terence Crawford.

Khan's best fight was probably against Maidana, and this would be a great time to repeat that.

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 05 Apr 2019, 13:29
by ValMar
oogiebe wrote: 05 Apr 2019, 13:07 I agree. I think the only thing you can do to MAYBE improve taking a shot is thickening your neck. The rest is just what Val says...genetics.
You can learn how to avoid the punches, surely, and that's it. :TU:

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 05 Apr 2019, 13:35
by ValMar
ValMar wrote: 05 Apr 2019, 13:29 You can learn how to avoid the punches, surely, and that's it. :TU:
.......I am convinced one thing - Wladimir Klitschko would have improved his chin if he could.......

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 05 Apr 2019, 14:31
by Cent0089
I am curious if Crawford will fight in orthodox stance against Khan.

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 05 Apr 2019, 14:32
by oogiebe
Cent0089 wrote: 05 Apr 2019, 14:31 I am curious if Crawford will fight in orthodox stance against Khan.
I hardly think it'll matter. Crawford is on another planet.

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 05 Apr 2019, 14:43
by Ruthless-RKO
Cent0089 wrote: 05 Apr 2019, 14:31 I am curious if Crawford will fight in orthodox stance against Khan.
He's definately gonna switch. Probably fight most of it as southpaw.. seeing as Khan always boasts that he has not lost against one..

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 12:31
by Ruthless-RKO




BT doing what they can to promote the PPV.

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 06:24
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 08:30
by lazboy
Think this will be competitive only for a couple of rounds. Khan is a very entertaining fighter and no doubt has heart but I think he’s far more speed than skill. Great straight punches, very little defence other than backward stepping or pushing. Punch variety used to be better with Roach, now seems to throw only straights. Pacing issues.

Very hard to beat in the first 4 rounds when he was in prime condition. Had speed and skill enough to know his distance however now he’s not I wouldn’t be surprised with an early stoppage or Khan completely disengaging agaisnt this type of opponent,

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 08:35
by Fightnight Scores
You can back Crawford at a very tempting 6/1 for a stoppage in rounds 1-3.
Or at 7/2 if you add in another round (1-4).

Khan lasted until 6 against Canelo, but he was more "prime" 3 years back.

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 11 Apr 2019, 07:33
by Ruthless-RKO
Crawford v Khan is live on ESPN PPV on Saturday 20th April from the world famous Madison Square Garden.

The stacked undercard features lightweight sensation Teofimo Lopez in a 12-round test against Edis Tatli, 2016 U.S. Olympic silver medalist Shakur Stevenson versus former world title challenger Christopher Diaz in a 10-round featherweight tilt, and a crossroads 10-round lightweight battle between Felix Verdejo and Bryan Vasquez.

Promoted by Top Rank, in association with Matchroom Boxing and Khan Promotions, tickets priced at $606, $406, $306, $206, $106, $81, and $56 (including facility fees) are on sale now and can be purchased at the Madison Square Garden Box Office, all Ticketmaster outlets, Ticketmaster charge by phone (866-858-0008) and online at www.ticketmaster.com or www.MSG.com.

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 12 Apr 2019, 20:43
by Ruthless-RKO
Crawford-Khan Pay-Per-View Details: $69.95 For HD

The undefeated pound-for-pound king, three-division world champion and reigning WBO welterweight champion Terence “Bud” Crawford will headline the inaugural Top Rank on ESPN pay-per-view broadcast against former unified super lightweight world champion Amir “King” Khan Saturday, April 20 at 9 p.m. ET/6 p.m. PT from Madison Square Garden.

Crawford vs. Khan will be available via all major cable and satellite providers with a suggested retail price of $59.95 (SD) or $69.95 (HD).

All undercard bouts will air live on ESPN2 and ESPN Deportes, beginning at 6 p.m. ET/3 p.m. PT.

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Posted: 12 Apr 2019, 20:45
by Ruthless-RKO
Cheaper than Spence-Garcia.

Is it worth it?

Might bring in more buys.

It’s revenue that counts though.