Canelo Alvarez vs. Daniel Jacobs - 4 May 2019

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Who wins?

Poll ended at 04 May 2019, 18:26

Alvarez - Decision
31
62%
Alvarez - K/TKO
11
22%
DRAW
0
No votes
Jacobs - K/TKO
2
4%
Jacobs - Decision
6
12%
 
Total votes: 50

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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Daniel Jacobs - 4 May 2019

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Got Canelo decision written all over it
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According to ESPN, it was Jacobs who weighs in more than 170 this morning.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 04 May 2019, 16:38 According to ESPN, it was Jacobs who weighs in more than 170 this morning.
Came in at 173.6 lbs to Canelos 169. Facing $1 Million fine. Such crap.
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oogiebe wrote: 04 May 2019, 16:40 Came in at 173.6 lbs to Canelos 169. Facing $1 Million fine. Such crap.
Just seen on Twitter that the contract says for every pound over 170 Jacobs gets fined $250k
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bripez wrote: 04 May 2019, 17:08 Just seen on Twitter that the contract says for every pound over 170 Jacobs gets fined $250k
So that makes the fine $900,000
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Av opened the poll guys.
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Jacobs’ purse is just above eight figures, despite that it’s listed as $2.5 million on his Nevada State Athletic Commission contract. Alvarez’s NSAC contract lists his purse as $35 million.

So Jacobs getting $13m then. Minus the $1m deduction.
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bripez wrote: 04 May 2019, 17:08 Just seen on Twitter that the contract says for every pound over 170 Jacobs gets fined $250k
According to his contract’s terms, however, those 3½ pounds should cost Jacobs $1 million because an ounce over three pounds would count as four pounds.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 04 May 2019, 17:31 According to his contract’s terms, however, those 3½ pounds should cost Jacobs $1 million because an ounce over three pounds would count as four pounds.
Good job that's not in Andy Ruiz's contract
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Guessing Jacobs will move to SM after this fight
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 04 May 2019, 17:41 Guessing Jacobs will move to SM after this fight
It’s been said for a while that.
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JimJim2009 wrote: 04 May 2019, 17:37 Good job that's not in Andy Ruiz's contract

:clap:
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I fancy Canelo late in this. A couple years ago I’d have picked Jacobs to get robbed but I think they’re going in opposite directions and Canelo will catch up with him in 10-12
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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Daniel Jacobs - 4 May 2019

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Stats and Stakes

Saul Alvarez

Age: 28
Title: Lineal World Middleweight (2015-Present, 3 Defenses); TBRB/Ring/WBC/WBA Middleweight (2018-Present)
Previous Titles: WBC Super Welterweight (2011-13, 6 Defenses); WBA/Ring Jr. Middleweight (2013); WBC Middleweight (2015-16, 1 Defense); TBRB Middleweight (2015-17); WBO Jr. Middleweight (2016-17); Ring World Middleweight (2015-18, 2 Defenses); WBA super middleweight (Sub-title, 2018)
Height: 5’8
Weight: 159 ½ lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico
Record: 51-1-2, 35 KO?
Record in Major Title Fights: 11-1-1, 6 KO (12-1-1, 7 KO including WBA sub-title fights)
Last Five Opponents: 175-3-3 (.975)
Current/Former World Champions/Titlists Faced: Miguel Vazquez SD4, UD10; Carlos Baldomir KO6; Lovemore N’dou UD12; Kermit Cintron TKO5; Shane Mosley UD12; Austin Trout UD12; Floyd Mayweather L12; Erislandy Lara SD12; Miguel Cotto UD12; Amir Khan KO6; Liam Smith KO9; Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. UD12; Gennady Golovkin D12, MD12

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Daniel Jacobs

Age: 32
Title: IBF Middleweight (2018, 1stAttempted Defense)
Previous Titles: WBA middleweight (sub-title; 2014-17, 4 Defenses)
Height: 5’11 ½
Weight: 159 ¾ lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Brooklyn, New York
Record: 35-2, 29 KO, 1 KOBY
Press Rankings: #2 (TBRB, Ring), #3 (ESPN, BoxRec, Boxing Monthly)
Record in Major Title Fights: 1-2, 1 KOBY (6-2, 5 KO, 1 KOBY including WBA sub-title fights)
Last Five Opponents: 120-4-2 (.960)
Current/Former World Champions/Titlists Faced: Ishe Smith UD10; Dmitry Pirog TKO by 5; Caleb Truax TKO12; Sergio Mora TKO2; Peter Quillin TKO1; Sergio Mora TKO7; Gennady Golovkin L12

The Case for Alvarez: This could be a close fight and close favors Alvarez. He’s the star, he’s the draw, and on more than one occasion he’s come out of fights with at least one scorecard so head scratching in his favor that it feeds the worst perceptions of the sport. Put that aside and look at who he’s running close against; it’s clear how good a fighter he has to be in the first place. Outside a one-sided loss to Floyd Mayweather, Alvarez has been nip/tuck with Trout, Golovkin, and Lara. In the second Golovkin fight, he improved on his first performance and took the fight to a dangerous puncher. He’s got guts, quick hands, underrated boxing ability, head movement, timing, and power to the head and body. It’s been years since Alvarez has been seriously hurt in a fight to make it harder on foes. It’s hard to find any one single thing Alvarez does great; instead, he’s just a complete fighter in the heart of his prime who has fully grown into his place as boxing’s biggest money draw. That’s a recipe for victory.

The Case for Jacobs: Jacobs is taller and longer than Alvarez. If he can use that length to establish the jab early, Jacobs will make his job easier. Jacobs is a serious puncher and just because Golovkin never got Alvarez in dire trouble doesn’t mean Jacobs can’t. A blinding jab can set up big right hands that will be raining down on Alvarez. Jacobs has to be disciplined inside. His chin has been less reliable than Alvarez’s and if he’s caught at close quarters with something he doesn’t see, Jacobs could find himself in big trouble. Alvarez may be a hair quicker than him and it will add to the danger in exchanges.

The Pick: Jacobs appears dialed in for this one and he should be. At 32, this is the biggest, best chance of his career. He came up a little short against Golovkin; here he can do what Golovkin couldn’t and capture history’s middleweight crown while unifying three of the four major titles in the division. It will be a tall order. Alvarez is fighting with a chip on his shoulder and a new level of confidence in his last two fights. He’s seen every style as a professional and been in big fights before. Jacobs might be the bigger one shot puncher at middleweight but Alvarez lands with more consistent impact and catches better. That will matter in the second half of what could be a real gem. The pick is Alvarez by stoppage.
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saul is the best in the pro game at the moment for me, can do it all, un less he comes up against a pure boxer he will win , though i think it will be a good fight ,
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brilo33 wrote: 04 May 2019, 20:10 saul is the best in the pro game at the moment for me, can do it all, un less he comes up against a pure boxer he will win , though i think it will be a good fight ,
Kinda agree, but two problems with it.

1) He's only top 10 p4P for me not No1.
2) If a "pure boxer" - BJS would be the obvious pick - boxed his ears off for 12 rounds a la Lemieux Canelo would still nick a decision or draw out of it.
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any idea about the ring walk lads - surely not 5am?
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Yeah anyone know the time? Debating buying a 24 hour NOW TV sky pass, must be years since I last got one, it’s gone up £2 the cheeky fcukers! £8.99! :lol: What’s everyone think of the undercard? Looks pony for a fight of this magnitude IMO.
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 04 May 2019, 21:22 Yeah anyone know the time? Debating buying a 24 hour NOW TV sky pass, must be years since I last got one, it’s gone up £2 the cheeky fcukers! £8.99! :lol: What’s everyone think of the undercard? Looks pony for a fight of this magnitude IMO.
i've put the ufc on BT pal - the undercard is piss poor :KO:
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I have to watch this shite on my iPad. I'm absolutely monged the now! Trying to stay awake for main event!
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kbackup408 wrote: 04 May 2019, 21:26 i've put the ufc on BT pal - the undercard is piss poor :KO:
:cry: I’ve give in and bought it mate, can’t be arsed fannying about with streams for a big fight like this but I’ll watch a film first recon earliest it’ll start is 4:30 as it’s vegas probably 5ish
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Stuarty wrote: 04 May 2019, 21:35 I have to watch this shite on my iPad. I'm absolutely monged the now! Trying to stay awake for main event!
You not got any Peruvian to keep ya going Stu? :OhYes:
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 04 May 2019, 21:52 You not got any Peruvian to keep ya going Stu? :OhYes:
I have mate aye. I'm well on it. She's in her pit and I'm downstairs going through the motions :lol: It's good gear but I'm still tired and I know that if I don't go to bed tonight again I'm gonna get heavy ear ache :lol:
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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Daniel Jacobs - 4 May 2019

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Horrible decision there !
Had the draw @ 50/1 and Oquendo @ 5s but I don't think I'm talking out my pocket. Roach was hustled out of that fight.
Two judges had him winning 7 rounds ? Felt like home-cooking and the crowd booed. ;witzend:
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