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oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:06

getnada wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 06:35

getnada wrote: ↑26 Jan 2019, 15:04 I'm worried about Mansour his health in this case, Ajagba just hits too hard, Ajagba would KO Wilder in 3, I think Fury wouldn't be able to make it 12 rounds either. I don't have the feeling Ajagba got a soft chin either.

Ajagba proved me right again, despite I think Mansour showed an awesome performance and I understand really well why Wilder never dared to face him back in the days. Ajagba could become a future top 5 guy, he´s already far far better then Wilder.

Tough call...

SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:25

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:06

getnada wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 06:35

getnada wrote: ↑26 Jan 2019, 15:04 I'm worried about Mansour his health in this case, Ajagba just hits too hard, Ajagba would KO Wilder in 3, I think Fury wouldn't be able to make it 12 rounds either. I don't have the feeling Ajagba got a soft chin either.

Ajagba proved me right again, despite I think Mansour showed an awesome performance and I understand really well why Wilder never dared to face him back in the days. Ajagba could become a future top 5 guy, he´s already far far better then Wilder.

Tough call...

Yes Mansour was simply awesome. Nada is right. Wilder would have completely melted before him.

Nada must be having a tough time figuring out who would eventually win between Ajagba and Joshua, who he has already knighted as the greatest fighting machine ever seen.

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:43

SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:25

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:06

getnada wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 06:35

getnada wrote: ↑26 Jan 2019, 15:04 I'm worried about Mansour his health in this case, Ajagba just hits too hard, Ajagba would KO Wilder in 3, I think Fury wouldn't be able to make it 12 rounds either. I don't have the feeling Ajagba got a soft chin either.

Ajagba proved me right again, despite I think Mansour showed an awesome performance and I understand really well why Wilder never dared to face him back in the days. Ajagba could become a future top 5 guy, he´s already far far better then Wilder.

Tough call...

Yes Mansour was simply awesome. Nada is right. Wilder would have completely melted before him.

Nada must be having a tough time figuring out who would eventually win between Ajagba and Joshua, who he has already knighted as the greatest fighting machine ever seen.

He's a troll. He amuses me.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 12:43

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:43

SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:25

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:06

getnada wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 06:35

getnada wrote: ↑26 Jan 2019, 15:04 I'm worried about Mansour his health in this case, Ajagba just hits too hard, Ajagba would KO Wilder in 3, I think Fury wouldn't be able to make it 12 rounds either. I don't have the feeling Ajagba got a soft chin either.

Ajagba proved me right again, despite I think Mansour showed an awesome performance and I understand really well why Wilder never dared to face him back in the days. Ajagba could become a future top 5 guy, he´s already far far better then Wilder.

Tough call...

Yes Mansour was simply awesome. Nada is right. Wilder would have completely melted before him.

Nada must be having a tough time figuring out who would eventually win between Ajagba and Joshua, who he has already knighted as the greatest fighting machine ever seen.

He's a troll. He amuses me.

Asdjfkl.

Multiple personalities. All demented.

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 13:05

SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 12:43

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:43

SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:25

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:06

getnada wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 06:35

getnada wrote: ↑26 Jan 2019, 15:04 I'm worried about Mansour his health in this case, Ajagba just hits too hard, Ajagba would KO Wilder in 3, I think Fury wouldn't be able to make it 12 rounds either. I don't have the feeling Ajagba got a soft chin either.

Ajagba proved me right again, despite I think Mansour showed an awesome performance and I understand really well why Wilder never dared to face him back in the days. Ajagba could become a future top 5 guy, he´s already far far better then Wilder.

Tough call...

Yes Mansour was simply awesome. Nada is right. Wilder would have completely melted before him.

Nada must be having a tough time figuring out who would eventually win between Ajagba and Joshua, who he has already knighted as the greatest fighting machine ever seen.

He's a troll. He amuses me.

Asdjfkl.

Multiple personalities. All demented.

That's exactly who he acts like, but not as vicious.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 13:33

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 13:05

SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 12:43

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:43

SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:25

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:06

getnada wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 06:35

getnada wrote: ↑26 Jan 2019, 15:04 I'm worried about Mansour his health in this case, Ajagba just hits too hard, Ajagba would KO Wilder in 3, I think Fury wouldn't be able to make it 12 rounds either. I don't have the feeling Ajagba got a soft chin either.

Ajagba proved me right again, despite I think Mansour showed an awesome performance and I understand really well why Wilder never dared to face him back in the days. Ajagba could become a future top 5 guy, he´s already far far better then Wilder.

Tough call...

Yes Mansour was simply awesome. Nada is right. Wilder would have completely melted before him.

Nada must be having a tough time figuring out who would eventually win between Ajagba and Joshua, who he has already knighted as the greatest fighting machine ever seen.

He's a troll. He amuses me.

Asdjfkl.

Multiple personalities. All demented.

That's exactly who he acts like, but not as vicious.

He's toning his act down so that none of us will ever suspect his true identity. Or identities.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 15:45

SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 13:33

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 13:05

SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 12:43

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:43

SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:25

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:06

getnada wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 06:35

getnada wrote: ↑26 Jan 2019, 15:04 I'm worried about Mansour his health in this case, Ajagba just hits too hard, Ajagba would KO Wilder in 3, I think Fury wouldn't be able to make it 12 rounds either. I don't have the feeling Ajagba got a soft chin either.

Ajagba proved me right again, despite I think Mansour showed an awesome performance and I understand really well why Wilder never dared to face him back in the days. Ajagba could become a future top 5 guy, he´s already far far better then Wilder.

Tough call...

Yes Mansour was simply awesome. Nada is right. Wilder would have completely melted before him.

Nada must be having a tough time figuring out who would eventually win between Ajagba and Joshua, who he has already knighted as the greatest fighting machine ever seen.

He's a troll. He amuses me.

Asdjfkl.

Multiple personalities. All demented.

That's exactly who he acts like, but not as vicious.

He's toning his act down so that none of us will ever suspect his true identity. Or identities.

He's already admitted to being asdfucked.
Been banned at least 3 times yet the mods continue to allow him to post.
I don't know who is more fukced up getnada or the mods for allowing his crap

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 16:03

tiny_acres wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 15:45

SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 13:33

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 13:05

SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 12:43

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:43

SenorPipino wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:25

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 10:06

getnada wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 06:35

getnada wrote: ↑26 Jan 2019, 15:04 I'm worried about Mansour his health in this case, Ajagba just hits too hard, Ajagba would KO Wilder in 3, I think Fury wouldn't be able to make it 12 rounds either. I don't have the feeling Ajagba got a soft chin either.

Ajagba proved me right again, despite I think Mansour showed an awesome performance and I understand really well why Wilder never dared to face him back in the days. Ajagba could become a future top 5 guy, he´s already far far better then Wilder.

Tough call...

Yes Mansour was simply awesome. Nada is right. Wilder would have completely melted before him.

Nada must be having a tough time figuring out who would eventually win between Ajagba and Joshua, who he has already knighted as the greatest fighting machine ever seen.

He's a troll. He amuses me.

Asdjfkl.

Multiple personalities. All demented.

That's exactly who he acts like, but not as vicious.

He's toning his act down so that none of us will ever suspect his true identity. Or identities.

He's already admitted to being asdfucked.
Been banned at least 3 times yet the mods continue to allow him to post.
I don't know who is more fukced up getnada or the mods for allowing his crap

Maybe it's us who just gave a whole page on this fvcktard.

Lackeos wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 19:54 Ajagba is too good to be treated with kid gloves. He needs to be matched with a monster just to get any decent kind of experience.

I agree with whoever said match him with Wach. Wach is durable as hell, unlike Mansour right now. Wach is tall and rangy, unlike Mansour. It might not be the greatest skills test of all time, but Wach will be able to take Efe into deep water.

Onekrazyrican wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 22:10 Sad to see Mansour go out like this. The guy had an interesting story and even at his old age managed to become relevant. I would have liked to see him challenge for a title even if he had no chance at beating Wilder or Joshua. It would have just been a nice ending.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Mar 2019, 05:53

Onekrazyrican wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 22:10 Sad to see Mansour go out like this. The guy had an interesting story and even at his old age managed to become relevant. I would have liked to see him challenge for a title even if he had no chance at beating Wilder or Joshua. It would have just been a nice ending.

I liked him too. He called out Wilder, but Wilder chose Washington.

He called out Whyte, because Whyte needed a tall southpaw or something. Instead, Whythe chose Tann.

Best Coast wrote: ↑11 Mar 2019, 02:56

Lackeos wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 19:54 Ajagba is too good to be treated with kid gloves. He needs to be matched with a monster just to get any decent kind of experience.

I agree with whoever said match him with Wach. Wach is durable as hell, unlike Mansour right now. Wach is tall and rangy, unlike Mansour. It might not be the greatest skills test of all time, but Wach will be able to take Efe into deep water.

Wach would be a nice step up, but I dont expect to see Efe in with someone that tough until later this year, after another 2-3 more bouts, gradually increasing the level of competition.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Mar 2019, 08:11 “You’d think I have the plague, the way the other so-called heavyweight contenders are avoiding me,” Mansour said. “Is it my breath or is it my ability? These guys call themselves fighters but when my name comes up in conversation, they act like they have a hearing problem. Why would anyone be afraid of a 44-year-old man?

“Who else gets dropped six spaces that quickly,” he asked.

Regarding the win over Kauffman: “It’s a very frustrating and disappointing reality when a fight is made and the winner is said to fight the world (WBC) champion,” Mansour said. “When I fought Travis Kauffman, Deontay Wilder was willing to fight Kauffman. They were sure Kauffman would win but he didn’t. I won that fight but now Wilder doesn’t want to fight me. His last fight was against Gerald Washington, a fighter that 98 percent of the viewers thought I beat (in 2015). The fight was scored a draw. Washington went on to fight Deontay for the title.”

Masnour also talked about his 2014 one-punch knockout of iron-chinned Fred Kassi at the Sands Bethlehem.

“I received the Knockout of the Year mention against Fred Kassi, but he went on to fight Chris Arreola and walked away with a draw. Chris also had a No Contest against Kauffman, a fight in which he was floored. Chris went on to fight Deontay as well. It’s blatant cowardice (on Wilder’s part) if you ask me.”

J Russell Peltz got a call about a possible July 1 fight in Russia between Mansour and Alexander Povetkin with the stipulation that Mansour get ranked.

“When Mansour landed in the No. 15 slot in both the WBC and the WBO, Povetkin’s people stopped answering the phone,” Peltz said.

Povetkin boxed Andriy Rudenko instead.
“Another no-name,” Mansour said, referring to Rudenko. “Then we tried to get a match in August with Dillian Whyte on the Terence Crawford card in Omaha. That went nowhere. Top Rank told us that Whyte wanted to fight a tall, right-handed guy. What a joke! I also was willing to step in on one week’s notice to fight Fres Oquendo for the WBA title in June when Shannon Briggs failed his test. The promoters canceled the show instead.”

In 26 pro fights, Mansour has lost only to Steve Cunningham, who was on the floor twice, and to Dominic Breazeale, who was on the floor once but won when Mansour suffered a fractured jaw and sliced tongue.

“I am willing to fight any Top 10 heavyweight in the world,” Mansour said, “but it just seems as if all the top heavyweights are fighting bums and no-name fighters.”

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 Mar 2019, 09:10

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Mar 2019, 08:11 “You’d think I have the plague, the way the other so-called heavyweight contenders are avoiding me,” Mansour said. “Is it my breath or is it my ability? These guys call themselves fighters but when my name comes up in conversation, they act like they have a hearing problem. Why would anyone be afraid of a 44-year-old man?

“Who else gets dropped six spaces that quickly,” he asked.

Regarding the win over Kauffman: “It’s a very frustrating and disappointing reality when a fight is made and the winner is said to fight the world (WBC) champion,” Mansour said. “When I fought Travis Kauffman, Deontay Wilder was willing to fight Kauffman. They were sure Kauffman would win but he didn’t. I won that fight but now Wilder doesn’t want to fight me. His last fight was against Gerald Washington, a fighter that 98 percent of the viewers thought I beat (in 2015). The fight was scored a draw. Washington went on to fight Deontay for the title.”

Masnour also talked about his 2014 one-punch knockout of iron-chinned Fred Kassi at the Sands Bethlehem.

“I received the Knockout of the Year mention against Fred Kassi, but he went on to fight Chris Arreola and walked away with a draw. Chris also had a No Contest against Kauffman, a fight in which he was floored. Chris went on to fight Deontay as well. It’s blatant cowardice (on Wilder’s part) if you ask me.”

J Russell Peltz got a call about a possible July 1 fight in Russia between Mansour and Alexander Povetkin with the stipulation that Mansour get ranked.

“When Mansour landed in the No. 15 slot in both the WBC and the WBO, Povetkin’s people stopped answering the phone,” Peltz said.

Povetkin boxed Andriy Rudenko instead.
“Another no-name,” Mansour said, referring to Rudenko. “Then we tried to get a match in August with Dillian Whyte on the Terence Crawford card in Omaha. That went nowhere. Top Rank told us that Whyte wanted to fight a tall, right-handed guy. What a joke! I also was willing to step in on one week’s notice to fight Fres Oquendo for the WBA title in June when Shannon Briggs failed his test. The promoters canceled the show instead.”

In 26 pro fights, Mansour has lost only to Steve Cunningham, who was on the floor twice, and to Dominic Breazeale, who was on the floor once but won when Mansour suffered a fractured jaw and sliced tongue.

“I am willing to fight any Top 10 heavyweight in the world,” Mansour said, “but it just seems as if all the top heavyweights are fighting bums and no-name fighters.”

The problem with Mansour’s claims, is that he has called-out big name fighters, but there were no commercial or sporting reasons for those guys to face him.

His handlers didn’t attempt to orchestrate bouts against bigger names and nor did Mansour gain a mandatory challenger position either. So why is he annoyed about opportunities not being handed to him on a plate?

He’s only won three of the eight bouts he’s competed in over the last five years and three months, which were against limited journeymen. And prior to that, he’d never beaten a single top-twenty world-rated fighter either.

His claims against Deontay Wilder facing Gerald Washington, rather than himself are invalid. As are his opinions of fighters like Povetkin and Whyte ducking him. They make no sense if you review the facts related to the timelines of the events he’s describing.

Just because Mansour didn’t get his own way, this doesn’t mean that he was “ducked” by any of his big-name rivals.

candyslim wrote: ↑16 Mar 2019, 10:39 I've loads of respect for Mansour's guts and toughness. He is a small heavyweight who was a force to reckoned with right up until he was 45 years old.

He lost on points to Steve Cunningham, drew with Gerald Washington, and was unlucky to be stopped on injury against Breazeale - forget his last three fights - that wasn't the real 'Hardcore'. His best wins were a KO7 over Fred Kassi and decision wins over Joey Dawejko, Travis Kaufman, and then probably Jason Gavern. Mansour was a good pro but can you seriously imagine any of those guys being regarded as an acceptable opponent for Wilder, never mind actually beating him?

I love what I see in Efe Ajagba but lots of fighters look great beating up low level opposition only to come unglued when they step up in class. Say what you like about Wilder but he has come through every test he has been set so far, and while his technique is poor, there is nothing wrong with his chin and his fighting heart is proven beyond doubt. That's before you consider his punching power.

To compare Ajagba to Wilder never mind concluding that he is better than Wilder, well that's just silly. Surely you can see that?

oogiebe wrote: ↑16 Mar 2019, 11:06

candyslim wrote: ↑16 Mar 2019, 10:39 I've loads of respect for Mansour's guts and toughness. He is a small heavyweight who was a force to reckoned with right up until he was 45 years old.

He lost on points to Steve Cunningham, drew with Gerald Washington, and was unlucky to be stopped on injury against Breazeale - forget his last three fights - that wasn't the real 'Hardcore'. His best wins were a KO7 over Fred Kassi and decision wins over Joey Dawejko, Travis Kaufman, and then probably Jason Gavern. Mansour was a good pro but can you seriously imagine any of those guys being regarded as an acceptable opponent for Wilder, never mind actually beating him?

I love what I see in Efe Ajagba but lots of fighters look great beating up low level opposition only to come unglued when they step up in class. Say what you like about Wilder but he has come through every test he has been set so far, and while his technique is poor, there is nothing wrong with his chin and his fighting heart is proven beyond doubt. That's before you consider his punching power.

To compare Ajagba to Wilder never mind concluding that he is better than Wilder, well that's just silly. Surely you can see that?

Great post!

candyslim wrote: ↑16 Mar 2019, 10:39 I've loads of respect for Mansour's guts and toughness. He is a small heavyweight who was a force to reckoned with right up until he was 45 years old.