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Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 15:08 That happens with gaudy ko records. Julian Jackson is insanely overrated these days. Mugabi was pretty imposing, green was good when they fought. That was an excellent fight. The one thing I don't hear enough about regarding hagler/mugabi was the deplorable corner work from Duff, as bad as Atlas.

great point, it's brutal listening

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 11:48

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 15:08 That happens with gaudy ko records. Julian Jackson is insanely overrated these days. Mugabi was pretty imposing, green was good when they fought. That was an excellent fight. The one thing I don't hear enough about regarding hagler/mugabi was the deplorable corner work from Duff, as bad as Atlas.

great point, it's brutal listening

I don't why Duff suddenly started turning up in fighter's corners for big fights, he was a manager/promoter not a trainer. Actually, I do know, he wanted the spotlight.

One of the weirder sights I've seen following boxing was allegedly in a Crawford Ashley tracksuit when he fought Michael Nunn.

I don't why Duff suddenly started turning up in fighter's corners for big fights, he was a manager/promoter not a trainer. Actually, I do know, he wanted the spotlight.

One of the weirder sights I've seen following boxing was allegedly in a Crawford Ashley tracksuit when he fought Michael Nunn.

Granted...…..Duff had a monster ego and on more than one occasion he talked over his fighters or got too close to the action when he should have trusted a decent, seasoned corner team who were being paid top dollar to deliver.

But let's be fair-balanced to Duff as well.....he was not a completely interfering suit.
He'd had 45 pro fights to call on and in some very hard places and often as the non-fancied opponent.

He'd done the time and taken the shots on the London circuit as a Jewish fighter - and whilst never a success as a pro - neither was he ever talking from the isolated comfort of the boardroom.

Tough fella and he'd have made a contribution even late in the day.

A wee story. John Mugabi travelled over to Atlantic City with Mickey Duff , Tony Sibson and a trainer who'll remain nameless in October 1983.
What Sibson remembers most is how financially poor Mugabi was. While they were there Mugabi kept telling Sibson how much he liked the trainers green and yellow tracksuit.
Sibson knew that the trainer had been given the tracksuit by a sponsor. When packing for home the trainer couldn't get the tracksuit in his bag and at that Sibson told Mugabi to ask for it.. The trainer told Mugabi how much cash he wanted for it and of course Mugabi had nothing. When the trainer realised he wasn't getting anything for it, he took out some old towels etc and squeezed the tracksuit into the bag.
Many of you will guess the trainers name and sadly he's now deceased. I believe he was a very good trainer by all reports, and he's no longer around to defend himself, but Tony told me this story and I've never known him to lie.

Bodyshot3 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 16:49

I don't why Duff suddenly started turning up in fighter's corners for big fights, he was a manager/promoter not a trainer. Actually, I do know, he wanted the spotlight.

One of the weirder sights I've seen following boxing was allegedly in a Crawford Ashley tracksuit when he fought Michael Nunn.

Granted...…..Duff had a monster ego and on more than one occasion he talked over his fighters or got too close to the action when he should have trusted a decent, seasoned corner team who were being paid top dollar to deliver.

But let's be fair-balanced to Duff as well.....he was not a completely interfering suit.
He'd had 45 pro fights to call on and in some very hard places and often as the non-fancied opponent.

He'd done the time and taken the shots on the London circuit as a Jewish fighter - and whilst never a success as a pro - neither was he ever talking from the isolated comfort of the boardroom.

Tough fella and he'd have made a contribution even late in the day.

Him basically calling mugabi a pussy over and over again during that war was pathetic.