How many more

[samwbr]

If Ortiz was deemed OK to fight Wilder then he should be OK to fight Joshua.

He was knocked out in a back and forth fight against Wilder who then drew with Fury.

He's easily a more legitimate challenger than Miller who is untested against top opposition.

Miller is as good and as sellable as anyone available at the moment.
AJ will get stick for anyone he fights other than Fury and Wilder.

In a nutshell

[brilo33]

If Ortiz was deemed OK to fight Wilder then he should be OK to fight Joshua.

He was knocked out in a back and forth fight against Wilder who then drew with Fury.

He's easily a more legitimate challenger than Miller who is untested against top opposition.

thats what i mean , i agree , that is why aj wouldnt want to fight ortiz , because he is very legit

[samwbr]

The Ortiz who showed up v Scott, Allen and Kaufmann is no big obstacle to Joshua. I'd like to see the fight tho.

[brilo33]

The Ortiz who showed up v Scott, Allen and Kaufmann is no big obstacle to Joshua. I'd like to see the fight tho.

the miller that showed up against Washington aint nothing, styles make fight

[oogiebe]

Miller as a top 5/6 HW only shows the lack of depth in the division.

[lillywhite14]

The Ortiz who showed up v Scott, Allen and Kaufmann is no big obstacle to Joshua. I'd like to see the fight tho.

Any version of Ortiz isn’t a big obstacle to be honest. The fact he ran Wilder so close shows how average Deontay is imo, as opposed to how good Ortiz might be.

He’s just one of a handful of B level heavyweights that are interesting opponents for the top 3 but would struggle to beat them ( well, certainly struggle against Joshua and Fury )

Fact is, people are going to moan whoever the opponent is, unless it’s Fury or Wilder and them two are dragging their heels in sorting out there own rematch.

[ewenhay]

If Ortiz was deemed OK to fight Wilder then he should be OK to fight Joshua.

He was knocked out in a back and forth fight against Wilder who then drew with Fury.

He's easily a more legitimate challenger than Miller who is untested against top opposition.

thats what i mean , i agree , that is why aj wouldnt want to fight ortiz , because he is very legit

Ah, gotcha

[samwbr]

The Ortiz who showed up v Scott, Allen and Kaufmann is no big obstacle to Joshua. I'd like to see the fight tho.

Any version of Ortiz isn’t a big obstacle to be honest. The fact he ran Wilder so close shows how average Deontay is imo, as opposed to how good Ortiz might be.

He’s just one of a handful of B level heavyweights that are interesting opponents for the top 3 but would struggle to beat them ( well, certainly struggle against Joshua and Fury )

Fact is, people are going to moan whoever the opponent is, unless it’s Fury or Wilder and them two are dragging their heels in sorting out there own rematch.

Easiest deal Warren would ever make wasn't it? Nearly 3 months on from the fight and it's no closer.

[Boxerbeetle]

If Ortiz was deemed OK to fight Wilder then he should be OK to fight Joshua.

He was knocked out in a back and forth fight against Wilder who then drew with Fury.

He's easily a more legitimate challenger than Miller who is untested against top opposition.

That’s not really true in terms of promoting a fight though - we might know on here that Ortiz is a more legitimate challenger, but the casuals won’t know anything about him, possibly apart from the fact that Wilder has already ko’d him.

Miller is a much easier opponent to sell on PPV - he’s unbeaten, he’s American, and he’s a bloody big guy which is a novelty factor in itself.

[jamamb]

yep, if aj smashed ortiz the same guys who called for it wud suddenly call ortiz old

in fact already guys in this thread who say ortiz would be a really good fight in another thread trashed pov for being 39, even though hes younger then ortiz

and ortiz looked like ass when he had those fights under hearn, lol that it was some big avoid job, he had his chance to really get himself out there for an aj fight and what did he do? plod around for 12 rounds vs malik scott. ya great way to keep your monster rep and really get ppl excited

[oogiebe]

yep, if aj smashed ortiz the same guys who called for it wud suddenly call ortiz old

in fact already guys in this thread who say ortiz would be a really good fight in another thread trashed pov for being 39, even though hes younger then ortiz

and ortiz looked like ass when he had those fights under hearn, lol that it was some big avoid job, he had his chance to really get himself out there for am aj fight and what did he do? plod around for 12 rounds vs malik scott

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[Onetimeonly]

Ortiz would have got an aj fight if he looked like a promotable monster. He was lucky to get Wilder. The only reason he did was because deontay was so desperate to get a respected fighter in the ring. I don't get the Eddie protecting Joshua rhetoric. He's already easily surpassed vitalis accomplishments and arguably wlads too.

[samwbr]

yep, if aj smashed ortiz the same guys who called for it wud suddenly call ortiz old

in fact already guys in this thread who say ortiz would be a really good fight in another thread trashed pov for being 39, even though hes younger then ortiz

and ortiz looked like ass when he had those fights under hearn, lol that it was some big avoid job, he had his chance to really get himself out there for an aj fight and what did he do? plod around for 12 rounds vs malik scott. ya great way to keep your monster rep and really get ppl excited