Why is Froch a bitter hunt?

[bigjack]

I disagree about the Dirrell fight, the bloke didn't even turn up to have a scrap, it was all, hit and hold, whinge whinge whinge, Carl did well in that fight given the circumstances, Dirrell made Matthew Barneys performance against Carl look brave.

Dirrell moaned and bitched his way through his next fight too then faked an injury to get Abraham DQ'd

Shithouse of a boxer.

Spot on.

Yes but to score a fight it is all about punches landed. Dirrell landed far more than Froch.

Dirrell's style wasn't pleasing on the eye and i think that reflected on the judges decision,he did land more punches though.

[big lennox]

I think it is interesting that Froch never sought rematches for the fights where he was well beaten, Dirrell and Ward. The Ward fight must be a tough one for him to watch, as not only was he outboxed, he was manhandled and roughed up. Fair play to Froch, though, he was smart enough not to go near Ward again as I think he would have known that Ward might have stopped him the second time round.

Apart from offering Ward the fight in the UK?

If you listen to interviews with Ward, Ward said that he never received a single off from Eddie Hearn or Froch for a rematch. Of course not, why get beaten again. There was daylight between the two, so, in fairness, it didn't warrant a rematch. Froch will have known that there was zero prospect of him winning.

[MarkMcBurney]

Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

I was thinking this the other day; Froch has obviously accumulated a lot of money through his property portfolio but I reckon Groves earned more in his career than Froch did purely from boxing. Froch's biggest payday was the second Groves fight, allegedly around £8m - I would imagine Groves made that out of the WBSS alone....?

[big lennox]

I think it is interesting that Froch never sought rematches for the fights where he was well beaten, Dirrell and Ward. The Ward fight must be a tough one for him to watch, as not only was he outboxed, he was manhandled and roughed up. Fair play to Froch, though, he was smart enough not to go near Ward again as I think he would have known that Ward might have stopped him the second time round.

Unfair to say he was "well beaten" by dirrell, comfortable fighters dominating a fight don't throw themselves to the canvas every 30 seconds, whinge to the ref and run all night.

I also don't think ward stops him. It's safe to say Carl was durable.

He was durable, but was vulnerable to bodyshots, and I think Ward, having been in the ring with him already, would have made adjustments and got Froch out of there as he did with Kovalev.

[lefthook82]

Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Your watch has ended.

Ps You couldn't possibly know that. Just a best guess estimate

[big lennox]

Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting of Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

[big lennox]

Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting off Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

[big lennox]

Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting off George Groves, a bit of a pasting off Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

[banjo]

Having trouble with the quote system eh Big Len?

[big lennox]

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[big lennox]

Having trouble with the quote system eh Big Len?

Just driving the point home

[bigjack]

Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

I was thinking this the other day; Froch has obviously accumulated a lot of money through his property portfolio but I reckon Groves earned more in his career than Froch did purely from boxing. Froch's biggest payday was the second Groves fight, allegedly around £8m - I would imagine Groves made that out of the WBSS alone....?

Does he send Lee round in his shades to demand the rental payments when they fall behind haha

[kbackup408]

Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

I was thinking this the other day; Froch has obviously accumulated a lot of money through his property portfolio but I reckon Groves earned more in his career than Froch did purely from boxing. Froch's biggest payday was the second Groves fight, allegedly around £8m - I would imagine Groves made that out of the WBSS alone....?

Does he send Lee round in his shades to demand the rental payments when they fall behind haha

no.. I think thats why people sign a rental agreement (but I understand what you are trying to say haha)

[Syntax Error]

He shouldn't be bitter.
He did KO George Groves in front of 80,000 people at Wembley.

What?

Where did you hear that?

[bigjack]

Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

I was thinking this the other day; Froch has obviously accumulated a lot of money through his property portfolio but I reckon Groves earned more in his career than Froch did purely from boxing. Froch's biggest payday was the second Groves fight, allegedly around £8m - I would imagine Groves made that out of the WBSS alone....?

Does he send Lee round in his shades to demand the rental payments when they fall behind haha

no.. I think thats why people sign a rental agreement (but I understand what you are trying to say haha)

Froch tried bringing his brother to the Groves pressers to try and intimidate George,he just laughed at the ape lol

[samwbr]

Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting of Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

Knocked Taylor and Groves the fornicate out. Beat Dirrell and revenged the Kessler defeat.

I reckon he sleeps well at night.

[Onetimeonly]

Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting of Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

Knocked Taylor and Groves the eff out. Beat Dirrell and revenged the Kessler defeat.

I reckon he sleeps well at night.

ward was the only definitive defeat of a career full of taking on all comers. My favorite British fighter ever.

[whiskey]

Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting of Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

Knocked Taylor and Groves the eff out. Beat Dirrell and revenged the Kessler defeat.

I reckon he sleeps well at night.

Maybe I shouldn’t reveal this publicly, but all of those things dog him.

I know when he took that chartered private jet to Marbella to collect the keys to his recently-completed multi million pound villa, the Dirrell fight played on his mind. As he sat in the hot tub with his Mrs, drinking the vintage champagne that the developer left him, He said he wished he’d done more in the fight to leave no doubts. He said it’s the reason he bought the Ferrari, as it helps him forget about it.

Likewise at the opening of his flash rooftop bar overlooking the skyline, he said it was overrated to be clean living, trim and in shape. That he secretly yearned to be a flabby drunken mess with cocaine habit, falling out of nightclubs whilst snogging his own sister like his forgotten welsh hero.

[bigjack]

Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting of Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

Knocked Taylor and Groves the eff out. Beat Dirrell and revenged the Kessler defeat.

I reckon he sleeps well at night.

Maybe I shouldn’t reveal this publicly, but all of those things dog him.

I know when he took that chartered private jet to Marbella to collect the keys to his recently-completed multi million pound villa, the Dirrell fight played on his mind. As he sat in the hot tub with his Mrs, drinking the vintage champagne that the developer left him, He said he wished he’d done more in the fight to leave no doubts. He said it’s the reason he bought the Ferrari, as it helps him forget about it.

Likewise at the opening of his flash rooftop bar overlooking the skyline, he said it was overrated to be clean living, trim and in shape. That he secretly yearned to be a flabby drunken mess with cocaine habit, falling out of nightclubs whilst snogging his own sister like his forgotten welsh hero.

What goes on after a fighter retires means nothing,Froch is such a control freak that if you think those losses don't bother him then dream on.Calzaghe beat the peak version of the man that beat Froch.

[Noxy]

Who gives a f*** at the end of the day. He was a strange sort of character, a great fighter though and now he's gone. We need more hard men like him who love a scrap. He was great value throughout his career.

[whiskey]

Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting of Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

Knocked Taylor and Groves the eff out. Beat Dirrell and revenged the Kessler defeat.

I reckon he sleeps well at night.

Maybe I shouldn’t reveal this publicly, but all of those things dog him.

I know when he took that chartered private jet to Marbella to collect the keys to his recently-completed multi million pound villa, the Dirrell fight played on his mind. As he sat in the hot tub with his Mrs, drinking the vintage champagne that the developer left him, He said he wished he’d done more in the fight to leave no doubts. He said it’s the reason he bought the Ferrari, as it helps him forget about it.

Likewise at the opening of his flash rooftop bar overlooking the skyline, he said it was overrated to be clean living, trim and in shape. That he secretly yearned to be a flabby drunken mess with cocaine habit, falling out of nightclubs whilst snogging his own sister like his forgotten welsh hero.

What goes on after a fighter retires means nothing,Froch is such a control freak that if you think those losses don't bother him then dream on.Calzaghe beat the peak version of the man that beat Froch.

Kessler had a broken right hand. So that’s a myth and hardly a minor drawback.

Not Calzaghe’s fault - and FW was right to tell them there would be no rescheduled fight if he withdrew. Kessler made more dosh that night than all his previous title fights combined. So his own fault.

But definitely ‘not peak’ under any definition of the word.

[bigjack]

Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting of Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

Knocked Taylor and Groves the eff out. Beat Dirrell and revenged the Kessler defeat.

I reckon he sleeps well at night.

Maybe I shouldn’t reveal this publicly, but all of those things dog him.

I know when he took that chartered private jet to Marbella to collect the keys to his recently-completed multi million pound villa, the Dirrell fight played on his mind. As he sat in the hot tub with his Mrs, drinking the vintage champagne that the developer left him, He said he wished he’d done more in the fight to leave no doubts. He said it’s the reason he bought the Ferrari, as it helps him forget about it.

Likewise at the opening of his flash rooftop bar overlooking the skyline, he said it was overrated to be clean living, trim and in shape. That he secretly yearned to be a flabby drunken mess with cocaine habit, falling out of nightclubs whilst snogging his own sister like his forgotten welsh hero.

What goes on after a fighter retires means nothing,Froch is such a control freak that if you think those losses don't bother him then dream on.Calzaghe beat the peak version of the man that beat Froch.

Kessler had a broken right hand. So that’s a myth and hardly a minor drawback.

Not Calzaghe’s fault - and FW was right to tell them there would be no rescheduled fight if he withdrew. Kessler made more dosh that night than all his previous title fights combined. So his own fault.

But definitely ‘not peak’ under any definition of the word.

Well he only had one notable win after the Calzaghe loss so arguably he was at his peak.

[whiskey]

Well he only had one notable win after the Calzaghe loss so arguably he was at his peak.

To be fair , it wasn’t Calzaghe’s fault - he got the job done.

I think it was Darren Barker told folk about it. He went over to join Kessler’s camp. He was screaming in agony after each session as they took his right glove off. Brian Magee might have been over there too I think.

Being gent he is, Mikkel denied it afterwards. But Mike Marley informed the press on the quiet afterwards.

It was a nightmare month for Kessler. Upon arrival in wales on fight week, his manager (Mogens Palle) had a huge heart attack and put in intensive care in Cardiff hospital.

[bigjack]

Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting of Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

Knocked Taylor and Groves the eff out. Beat Dirrell and revenged the Kessler defeat.

I reckon he sleeps well at night.

Maybe I shouldn’t reveal this publicly, but all of those things dog him.

I know when he took that chartered private jet to Marbella to collect the keys to his recently-completed multi million pound villa, the Dirrell fight played on his mind. As he sat in the hot tub with his Mrs, drinking the vintage champagne that the developer left him, He said he wished he’d done more in the fight to leave no doubts. He said it’s the reason he bought the Ferrari, as it helps him forget about it.

Likewise at the opening of his flash rooftop bar overlooking the skyline, he said it was overrated to be clean living, trim and in shape. That he secretly yearned to be a flabby drunken mess with cocaine habit, falling out of nightclubs whilst snogging his own sister like his forgotten welsh hero.

What goes on after a fighter retires means nothing,Froch is such a control freak that if you think those losses don't bother him then dream on.Calzaghe beat the peak version of the man that beat Froch.

Kessler had a broken right hand. So that’s a myth and hardly a minor drawback.

Not Calzaghe’s fault - and FW was right to tell them there would be no rescheduled fight if he withdrew. Kessler made more dosh that night than all his previous title fights combined. So his own fault.

But definitely ‘not peak’ under any definition of the word.

Well he only had one notable win after the Calzaghe loss so arguably he was at his peak.

Buster Douglas lost his mum prior to the best win of his life,Tommy Hearns also lost his brother the night before one of his best performances,fighters get on with it,injuries too

[Boxerbeetle]

Froch doesn’t strike me as being particularly bitter, most of his comments seem pretty tongue in cheek and he just doesn’t like Groves which is fine.

I do wish he’d follow boxing a bit more closely though, considering he’s working so often for Sky as an analyst. You’d think basic knowledge of the current scene would be a prerequisite.