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Coco wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 05:17

samwbr wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 04:51

banjo wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 04:48 I disagree about the Dirrell fight, the bloke didn't even turn up to have a scrap, it was all, hit and hold, whinge whinge whinge, Carl did well in that fight given the circumstances, Dirrell made Matthew Barneys performance against Carl look brave.

Dirrell moaned and bitched his way through his next fight too then faked an injury to get Abraham DQ'd

Shithouse of a boxer.

Spot on.

Yes but to score a fight it is all about punches landed. Dirrell landed far more than Froch.

samwbr wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 04:12

big lennox wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 04:00 I think it is interesting that Froch never sought rematches for the fights where he was well beaten, Dirrell and Ward. The Ward fight must be a tough one for him to watch, as not only was he outboxed, he was manhandled and roughed up. Fair play to Froch, though, he was smart enough not to go near Ward again as I think he would have known that Ward might have stopped him the second time round.

Apart from offering Ward the fight in the UK?

G0mez wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 18:36 Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Steveh583 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 04:18

big lennox wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 04:00 I think it is interesting that Froch never sought rematches for the fights where he was well beaten, Dirrell and Ward. The Ward fight must be a tough one for him to watch, as not only was he outboxed, he was manhandled and roughed up. Fair play to Froch, though, he was smart enough not to go near Ward again as I think he would have known that Ward might have stopped him the second time round.

Unfair to say he was "well beaten" by dirrell, comfortable fighters dominating a fight don't throw themselves to the canvas every 30 seconds, whinge to the ref and run all night.

I also don't think ward stops him. It's safe to say Carl was durable.

G0mez wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 18:36 Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

banjo wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 19:31

G0mez wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 18:36 Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

big lennox wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 05:36

banjo wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 19:31

G0mez wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 18:36 Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting off Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

big lennox wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 05:36

big lennox wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 05:36

banjo wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 19:31

G0mez wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 18:36 Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting off George Groves, a bit of a pasting off Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

banjo wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 05:39 Having trouble with the quote system eh Big Len?

MarkMcBurney wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 05:30

G0mez wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 18:36 Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

I was thinking this the other day; Froch has obviously accumulated a lot of money through his property portfolio but I reckon Groves earned more in his career than Froch did purely from boxing. Froch's biggest payday was the second Groves fight, allegedly around £8m - I would imagine Groves made that out of the WBSS alone....?

bigjack wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 06:22

MarkMcBurney wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 05:30

G0mez wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 18:36 Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

I was thinking this the other day; Froch has obviously accumulated a lot of money through his property portfolio but I reckon Groves earned more in his career than Froch did purely from boxing. Froch's biggest payday was the second Groves fight, allegedly around £8m - I would imagine Groves made that out of the WBSS alone....?

Does he send Lee round in his shades to demand the rental payments when they fall behind haha

KiwiRider wrote: ↑01 Mar 2019, 15:11 He shouldn't be bitter.
He did KO George Groves in front of 80,000 people at Wembley.

kbackup408 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 06:33

bigjack wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 06:22

MarkMcBurney wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 05:30

G0mez wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 18:36 Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

I was thinking this the other day; Froch has obviously accumulated a lot of money through his property portfolio but I reckon Groves earned more in his career than Froch did purely from boxing. Froch's biggest payday was the second Groves fight, allegedly around £8m - I would imagine Groves made that out of the WBSS alone....?

Does he send Lee round in his shades to demand the rental payments when they fall behind haha

no.. I think thats why people sign a rental agreement (but I understand what you are trying to say haha)

big lennox wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 05:36

banjo wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 19:31

G0mez wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 18:36 Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting of Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

samwbr wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 07:29

big lennox wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 05:36

banjo wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 19:31

G0mez wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 18:36 Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting of Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

Knocked Taylor and Groves the eff out. Beat Dirrell and revenged the Kessler defeat.

I reckon he sleeps well at night.

samwbr wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 07:29

big lennox wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 05:36

banjo wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 19:31

G0mez wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 18:36 Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting of Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

Knocked Taylor and Groves the eff out. Beat Dirrell and revenged the Kessler defeat.

I reckon he sleeps well at night.

G0mez wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 08:07

samwbr wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 07:29

big lennox wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 05:36

banjo wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 19:31

G0mez wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 18:36 Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting of Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

Knocked Taylor and Groves the eff out. Beat Dirrell and revenged the Kessler defeat.

I reckon he sleeps well at night.

Maybe I shouldn’t reveal this publicly, but all of those things dog him.

I know when he took that chartered private jet to Marbella to collect the keys to his recently-completed multi million pound villa, the Dirrell fight played on his mind. As he sat in the hot tub with his Mrs, drinking the vintage champagne that the developer left him, He said he wished he’d done more in the fight to leave no doubts. He said it’s the reason he bought the Ferrari, as it helps him forget about it.

Likewise at the opening of his flash rooftop bar overlooking the skyline, he said it was overrated to be clean living, trim and in shape. That he secretly yearned to be a flabby drunken mess with cocaine habit, falling out of nightclubs whilst snogging his own sister like his forgotten welsh hero.

bigjack wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 08:24

G0mez wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 08:07

samwbr wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 07:29

big lennox wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 05:36

banjo wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 19:31

G0mez wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 18:36 Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting of Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

Knocked Taylor and Groves the eff out. Beat Dirrell and revenged the Kessler defeat.

I reckon he sleeps well at night.

Maybe I shouldn’t reveal this publicly, but all of those things dog him.

I know when he took that chartered private jet to Marbella to collect the keys to his recently-completed multi million pound villa, the Dirrell fight played on his mind. As he sat in the hot tub with his Mrs, drinking the vintage champagne that the developer left him, He said he wished he’d done more in the fight to leave no doubts. He said it’s the reason he bought the Ferrari, as it helps him forget about it.

Likewise at the opening of his flash rooftop bar overlooking the skyline, he said it was overrated to be clean living, trim and in shape. That he secretly yearned to be a flabby drunken mess with cocaine habit, falling out of nightclubs whilst snogging his own sister like his forgotten welsh hero.

What goes on after a fighter retires means nothing,Froch is such a control freak that if you think those losses don't bother him then dream on.Calzaghe beat the peak version of the man that beat Froch.

G0mez wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 09:32

bigjack wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 08:24

G0mez wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 08:07

samwbr wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 07:29

big lennox wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 05:36

banjo wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 19:31

G0mez wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 18:36 Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting of Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

Knocked Taylor and Groves the eff out. Beat Dirrell and revenged the Kessler defeat.

I reckon he sleeps well at night.

Maybe I shouldn’t reveal this publicly, but all of those things dog him.

I know when he took that chartered private jet to Marbella to collect the keys to his recently-completed multi million pound villa, the Dirrell fight played on his mind. As he sat in the hot tub with his Mrs, drinking the vintage champagne that the developer left him, He said he wished he’d done more in the fight to leave no doubts. He said it’s the reason he bought the Ferrari, as it helps him forget about it.

Likewise at the opening of his flash rooftop bar overlooking the skyline, he said it was overrated to be clean living, trim and in shape. That he secretly yearned to be a flabby drunken mess with cocaine habit, falling out of nightclubs whilst snogging his own sister like his forgotten welsh hero.

What goes on after a fighter retires means nothing,Froch is such a control freak that if you think those losses don't bother him then dream on.Calzaghe beat the peak version of the man that beat Froch.

Kessler had a broken right hand. So that’s a myth and hardly a minor drawback.

Not Calzaghe’s fault - and FW was right to tell them there would be no rescheduled fight if he withdrew. Kessler made more dosh that night than all his previous title fights combined. So his own fault.

But definitely ‘not peak’ under any definition of the word.

bigjack wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 09:40

Well he only had one notable win after the Calzaghe loss so arguably he was at his peak.

bigjack wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 09:40

G0mez wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 09:32

bigjack wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 08:24

G0mez wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 08:07

samwbr wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 07:29

big lennox wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 05:36

banjo wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 19:31

G0mez wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 18:36 Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting of Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

Knocked Taylor and Groves the eff out. Beat Dirrell and revenged the Kessler defeat.

I reckon he sleeps well at night.

Maybe I shouldn’t reveal this publicly, but all of those things dog him.

I know when he took that chartered private jet to Marbella to collect the keys to his recently-completed multi million pound villa, the Dirrell fight played on his mind. As he sat in the hot tub with his Mrs, drinking the vintage champagne that the developer left him, He said he wished he’d done more in the fight to leave no doubts. He said it’s the reason he bought the Ferrari, as it helps him forget about it.

Likewise at the opening of his flash rooftop bar overlooking the skyline, he said it was overrated to be clean living, trim and in shape. That he secretly yearned to be a flabby drunken mess with cocaine habit, falling out of nightclubs whilst snogging his own sister like his forgotten welsh hero.

What goes on after a fighter retires means nothing,Froch is such a control freak that if you think those losses don't bother him then dream on.Calzaghe beat the peak version of the man that beat Froch.

Kessler had a broken right hand. So that’s a myth and hardly a minor drawback.

Not Calzaghe’s fault - and FW was right to tell them there would be no rescheduled fight if he withdrew. Kessler made more dosh that night than all his previous title fights combined. So his own fault.

But definitely ‘not peak’ under any definition of the word.

Well he only had one notable win after the Calzaghe loss so arguably he was at his peak.