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dagilechia wrote: ↑21 Apr 2019, 16:34 and that is why HW is the most popular and most important division

It does produce the baddest man on the planet!

But if you think about it, I could take out the "baddest man on the planet" with just one gunshot. And there are millions of people with guns, so he's actually like the millionth-baddest.

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Apr 2019, 16:36 It does produce the baddest man on the planet!

Not always the most popular. Welter has had a lot of runs.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑21 Apr 2019, 16:41 Not always the most popular. Welter has had a lot of runs.

No doubt. But when the HW division is hot, it helps all of boxing. Casuals love the big boys.

The heavies are no longer a big deal in the US.

That division never has been very important in the cradle of boxing, Mexico, where eyeballs are only on bantamweights through welter.

Canelo being the bigger exception.

Yeah, the most important or most popular division definitely varies by who you ask.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑21 Apr 2019, 16:47 The heavies are no longer a big deal in the US.

That division never has been very important in the cradle of boxing, Mexico, where eyeballs are only on bantamweights through welter.

Canelo being the bigger exception.

and to my point, boxing is no longer a big deal in the US.

How about rephrasing the question this way: How many weight classes would you have to shift female fighters in order for them to compete against males? For example, female heavyweights would beat up male strawweights, right?

SenorPipino wrote: ↑21 Apr 2019, 14:43 I don't think so. She could beat half the male pros at arm wrestling.

And plenty girl wrestlers are now on boy's teams at schools and are winning bouts with regularity.

Guys will often forfeit so they aren't embarrassed by a girl.

Men are generally always going to be stronger than females of a similar weight.

But strength isn't always a determining factor in athletic contests.

Talent takes priority.

There's no way Serena beats any guy in the top 1000. Maybe someone with good technical strokes like Bencic or Kerber could do something vs a top 1000 guy, but not the likes of Serena or Pliskova who's game is based on physicality. You probably don't realise that women use lighter balls either do you? If a male pro used they balls they would be serving crazy speeds, 160mph+. Or if the women used the male balls they'd just be far too slow and they'd get demolished.

There are 2000 professional male fighters ate lightweight (135lb). You honestly think Katey Taylor beats any of them??

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Apr 2019, 14:09 No it's not. Did you have a big bowl of stupid this morning? with extra idiocy? Such a troll.

You beta you beta you bet

anyone remember that McEnroe quote that caused outrage a few years ago? He was asked if Serena Williams was the greatest tennis player of all time, and he said 'She's certainly the best female tennis player of all time'. Then the retarded interviewer said 'Why not just greatest player, why just female?' And John replied, because she wouldn't be top 800 on the men's tour.

He was just telling the truth, and he got eviscerated for it!

Meanwhile, the guy ranked 800th was like 'Uhh, I'd like to think I wouldn't lose to Serena' on Twitter

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑21 Apr 2019, 19:10 anyone remember that McEnroe quote that caused outrage a few years ago? He was asked if Serena Williams was the greatest tennis player of all time, and he said 'She's certainly the best female tennis player of all time'. Then the retarded interviewer said 'Why not just greatest player, why just female?' And John replied, because she wouldn't be top 800 on the men's tour.

He was just telling the truth, and he got eviscerated for it!

Meanwhile, the guy ranked 800th was like 'Uhh, I'd like to think I wouldn't lose to Serena' on Twitter

LMAO! I don't remember that but it's classic!

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑21 Apr 2019, 15:53 I believe he thinks with 10,000 hours of practice any of us could be world champion.

I kept asking the same simple question, but you kept avoiding answering it, because you knew the most accurate response undermined you own theory.

You're frustrated because I didn't let you off the hook. I kept asking the same question time and time again.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Apr 2019, 20:10 I kept asking the same simple question, but you kept avoiding answering it, because you knew the most accurate response undermined you own theory.

You're frustrated because I didn't let you off the hook. I kept asking the same question time and time again.

Um...Mr. Dranged: You responded to the wrong individual. Keep going though. You're on a roll.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Apr 2019, 20:10 I kept asking the same simple question, but you kept avoiding answering it, because you knew the most accurate response undermined you own theory.

You're frustrated because I didn't let you off reaththe hook. I kept asking the same question time and time again.

You haven't asked me anything, cupcake. Take a deep breath and pop a few zits or look at a Victoria secret catalogue.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑21 Apr 2019, 20:28 You haven't asked me anything, cupcake. Take a deep breath and pop a few zits or look at a Victoria secret catalogue.

Apologies. You supported someone who made a claim that they were unable to defend, but you made no attempt to either.

Am I wrong?

"Where would You rank female boxers in male rankings?"


Underneath where they belong.

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑21 Apr 2019, 20:39 "Where would You rank female boxers in male rankings?"


Underneath where they belong.

Classic!

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Apr 2019, 20:41Classic!

:)

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Apr 2019, 20:38 Apologies. You supported someone who made a claim that they were unable to defend, but you made no attempt to either.

Am I wrong?

Yes, quite wrong. I made not a single comment on anything to do with that argument.

Wolfe was very good with Kirkland.

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑21 Apr 2019, 19:10 anyone remember that McEnroe quote that caused outrage a few years ago? He was asked if Serena Williams was the greatest tennis player of all time, and he said 'She's certainly the best female tennis player of all time'. Then the retarded interviewer said 'Why not just greatest player, why just female?' And John replied, because she wouldn't be top 800 on the men's tour.

He was just telling the truth, and he got eviscerated for it!

Meanwhile, the guy ranked 800th was like 'Uhh, I'd like to think I wouldn't lose to Serena' on Twitter

I actually think McEnroe said the top 1000 iirc

dagilechia wrote: ↑18 Apr 2019, 16:02 could you imagine Shields beating the guy in black trunks? he's 22-33-3, ranked 186 at boxrec

If it’s the same/similar weight class then nope. Not a chance. Brutal beat down.

TempleSlave wrote: ↑22 Apr 2019, 06:22 If it’s the same/similar weight class then nope. Not a chance. Brutal beat down.

he was at 76,5kg/168,5lbs in that fight but he fought at MW too. he was 8(2)-8(2)-1 in that fight, and still he would destroy Shields, probably in round 1.

RKY wrote: ↑21 Apr 2019, 13:28 There's just no way a women could beat a professional male. Don't underestimate what it takes to be a fully fledged professional. It's like tennis, even the lowest level pro is still better than high level amatuers and would wipe the floor with the elite women.

There are some guys who are "Professionals" but are essentially just paid losers. I don't doubt that maybe chicks could beat some of those guys, but only if they showed up, and gave an insincere effort as they usually do.