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Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 19:57
by SenorPipino
7-3 Ajagba.

I liked Demirezen, however.

If he had power, he might have contender potential.

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 19:58
by oogiebe
SenorPipino wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 19:57 7-3 Ajagba.

I liked Demirezen, however.

If he had power, he might have contender potential.
supposedly he does have power.

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 19:59
by gilgamesh
Ajagba showing pretty good stamina here. He still had solid power throughout the bout, it's just that Demirezen was tough enough to hang in there, and had good enough defense as well to stay competitive.

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 19:59
by SenorPipino
Ajagba certainly deserved it.

The fans boo because they expected more dominance and a highlight knockout from the touted 30-1 favorite.

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 20:00
by gilgamesh
SenorPipino wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 19:59 Ajagba certainly deserved it.

The fans boo because they expected more dominance and a highlight knockout from the touted 30-1 favorite.
Odds can be misleading. Ajagba was such a heavy favorite because he's been seen, and people know about him. It's not that he's THAT much better of a fighter than Demirezen, just that much more recognized.

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 20:00
by SportsRatings
That's about what I thought would happen - as close to an Ibeabuchi / Tua as we've got in today's HW division.

Demirezen's chin was really impressive, he just kept coming. Ajagba couldn't really unload fully, but he boxed well and got a LOT of in-fighting experience. His chin is pretty damn good, too, he took a lot from Demirezen.

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 20:00
by oogiebe
SenorPipino wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 19:59 Ajagba certainly deserved it.

The fans boo because they expected more dominance and a highlight knockout from the touted 30-1 favorite.
30-1 is ridiculous.

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 20:01
by SenorPipino
oogiebe wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 19:58
SenorPipino wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 19:57 7-3 Ajagba.

I liked Demirezen, however.

If he had power, he might have contender potential.
supposedly he does have power.
The record indicates that. But I didn't see it.

As Teddy Atlas used to say about fighters with a lot of KOs on their record: is it real power or is it just the caliber of opponents?

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 20:01
by Best Coast
dagilechia wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 19:53 Ajagba may not look impressive but to be fair the Turk is not bad, far from being a tomato can like some suggested

6-3 or 5-4 Ajagba
The Turk has a granite chin. He could well be a European title challenger as he gets more experience.

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 20:02
by SportsRatings
oogiebe wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 19:58
SenorPipino wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 19:57 7-3 Ajagba.

I liked Demirezen, however.

If he had power, he might have contender potential.
supposedly he does have power.
I think Ajagba's got a hell of a chin too. He took everything in stride.

He looks so damn calm in the ring its ridiculous.

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 20:02
by gilgamesh
oogiebe wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 20:00
SenorPipino wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 19:59 Ajagba certainly deserved it.

The fans boo because they expected more dominance and a highlight knockout from the touted 30-1 favorite.
30-1 is ridiculous.
Yeah. A prospect that has barely gone rounds should never be that heavily favored over almost anybody.

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 20:02
by gilgamesh
So what's the more impressive win for the day? Ajagba over Demirezen or Price over David Allen?

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 20:04
by Best Coast
Ajagba STILL needs lots of work, but he got in some much needed rounds of experience. Ronnie Shields will have some good adjustments for him to work on as they review the tapes of this one.

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 20:05
by dagilechia
Best Coast wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 20:01
dagilechia wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 19:53 Ajagba may not look impressive but to be fair the Turk is not bad, far from being a tomato can like some suggested

6-3 or 5-4 Ajagba
The Turk has a granite chin. He could well be a European title challenger as he gets more experience.
i would like to see Kabayel vs Demirezen

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 20:05
by oogiebe
gilgamesh wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 20:02 So what's the more impressive win for the day? Ajagba over Demirezen or Price over David Allen?
Impressive? Efe. Surprising? Pricey.

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 20:06
by dagilechia
gilgamesh wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 20:02 So what's the more impressive win for the day? Ajagba over Demirezen or Price over David Allen?
Ajagba over Demirezen, by far, imo. Allen's very very limited, of course so is Demirezen, but i have no doubt that he is a better, busier, harder hitting, more durable fighter than Allen is

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 20:07
by Best Coast
gilgamesh wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 20:02 So what's the more impressive win for the day? Ajagba over Demirezen or Price over David Allen?
Ajagba & Demirezen have FUTURES ahead of them whereas Price & Allen are dead-enders whose better days are behind them. That counts for much.

But CLEARLY the best HW bout of the day was Whyte over Rivas!! :OhYes:

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 20:09
by oogiebe
Best Coast wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 20:07
gilgamesh wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 20:02 So what's the more impressive win for the day? Ajagba over Demirezen or Price over David Allen?
Ajagba & Demirezen have FUTURES ahead of them whereas Price & Allen are dead-enders whose better days are behind them. That counts for much.

But CLEARLY the best HW bout of the day was Whyte over Rivas!! :OhYes:
Yup. NO doubt.

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 20:10
by dagilechia
we got a very good HW night:

KO of the evening: Chisora vs Szpilka
Surprise of the evening: Price vs Allen
Fight of the evening: Whyte vs Rivas
Prospect's night: Ajagba vs Demirezen

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 20:11
by oogiebe
dagilechia wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 20:10 we got a very good HW night:

KO of the evening: Chisora vs Szpilka
Surprise of the evening: Price vs Allen
Fight of the evening: Whyte vs Rivas
Prospect's night: Ajagba vs Demirezen
LOL! I got every fight wrong in some manner. I have some thinking to do about our ratings. Whyte's win was terrific, and Rivas showed he's no stiff.

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 20:15
by gilgamesh
oogiebe wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 20:09
Best Coast wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 20:07
Ajagba & Demirezen have FUTURES ahead of them whereas Price & Allen are dead-enders whose better days are behind them. That counts for much.

But CLEARLY the best HW bout of the day was Whyte over Rivas!! :OhYes:
Yup. NO doubt.
The respective effort moved each man up a notch in my rankings.

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 20:21
by dagilechia
oogiebe wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 20:11
dagilechia wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 20:10 we got a very good HW night:

KO of the evening: Chisora vs Szpilka
Surprise of the evening: Price vs Allen
Fight of the evening: Whyte vs Rivas
Prospect's night: Ajagba vs Demirezen
LOL! I got every fight wrong in some manner. I have some thinking to do about our ratings. Whyte's win was terrific, and Rivas showed he's no stiff.
Let's think amigo, the voting started just now

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 20:52
by Betro09
Everybody looking for Ajagba getting a KO win was wrong. I told Demirezen was not a joke.

Yet, it was never enough. Ajagba won, fair and square. I got this 7-3.

But, i know deep in my heart, if Ali was trained right and worked enough since he turned pro, he coulda win this fight.

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 21 Jul 2019, 07:16
by pound per pound
SenorPipino wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 20:01
oogiebe wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 19:58

supposedly he does have power.
The record indicates that. But I didn't see it.

As Teddy Atlas used to say about fighters with a lot of KOs on their record: is it real power or is it just the caliber of opponents?
It's how the KO artist moved the opponents around when he laded. Whenever Atlas says something like that, it's a tip off he does't like that guy.

Re: Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen - July 20, 2019

Posted: 21 Jul 2019, 07:59
by DrDuke
Betro09 wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 20:52 Everybody looking for Ajagba getting a KO win was wrong. I told Demirezen was not a joke.
I picked Ajagba by dec.