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emallini wrote: ↑04 Jun 2019, 21:15 So after a quiet few rounds AJ drops Ruiz then goes in to finish, Ruiz keeps calm under fire and rocks his world with a left hook. How does a panic attack or getting dropped in sparring cause this? People are talking absolute nonsense. AJ then struggles to recover and Ruiz is reading his attacks like a book and making him pay via combinations. AJ was absolutely fine before that counter hook in round 3, actually that assault that AJ landed on Ruiz in round 3 was sharp as hell. No panic attacks, no conspiracies and no excuses. AJ has flaws and Ruiz exploited them on Saturday.

ironbeard wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 08:43 On the money, other than it was a quiet two (not a few) rounds.

The Fat King of Boxing did what AJ could not do:

1. Recover from a kill shot.
2. Keep his wits about him and stay patient.
3. Finish.

AJ can retool, stay behind the jab all night, etc., in the rematch. He still has to deal with TFKoB’s footwork, bodywork, power, quick hands, and ATG beard.

tobyh5 wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 03:25 He holds the cards though. Without him fighting, AJ will be struggling to regain the respect and adulation he held and obviously he sure as sh1t won't be getting all those belts back. Ruiz could swerve a rematch, he may get stripped, he may get sued but ya know, he will do fine financially. I doubt they sue him for anything like the amount he will earn in fights.

Make no mistake, to Joe Blow, AJ needs to right this wrong and beating someone for another vacant belt will not cut it.

Controversial wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 13:48 If I was writing AJs contracts I would stipulate the financial splits in any rematch. Ruiz can demand what he likes but the fight will only generate so much money, if he refuses to fight AJ then he will get stripped dropping Ruiz's financial 'pull' overnight.

ironbeard wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 08:43 On the money, other than it was a quiet two (not a few) rounds.

The Fat King of Boxing did what AJ could not do:

1. Recover from a kill shot.
2. Keep his wits about him and stay patient.
3. Finish.

AJ can retool, stay behind the jab all night, etc., in the rematch. He still has to deal with TFKoB’s footwork, bodywork, power, quick hands, and ATG beard.

Nondescript wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 13:59 I'd be curious to see if Ruiz could absorb Wilders punches in the same way. I have a feeling he wouldn't be able to.

tobyh5 wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 13:54 I agree and my post did not say anything which disagrees with that.

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 14:02I agree.

jamamb wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 14:03 they probably already had a rematch clause template they work with, it wouldnt have taken much effort to make a tight clause

Nondescript wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 14:06 Yeah but it could be very basic. It might not be particularly detailed, because Hearn wasn't overly concerned. Aslong as there's a rematch clause there, that's the most important thing.

3132DW wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 14:12 Ortiz was 7m 1st fight.....10m rematch and 1.5m for extra fight.

Can’t see Ruiz knocking back something similar when he got offered it.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 14:49 Whilst $10m sounds a lot of money, Atlas said he’d be getting short changed, said Douglas got $20m almost 30 years ago for his first defence against Holy.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 16:24 So am I understand that there WAS a rematch clause, but there was no stipulation as to where this rematch would take place or any of that? So they still gotta iron out the money and locale details? That's gonna be interesting because I'm sure Ruiz was given a low ball offer for a Heavyweight title fight on short notice, and now he holds all the cards. He's definitely gonna be using this to squeeze something out of the situation either the location he wants or a sh*t load of money if they insist on the U.K.

Either way he comes out smelling like a rose.

Especially if he wins the rematch, but honestly even if he doesn't. He stands to make more off of this rematch than he ever would've made in his whole Boxing career combined without pulling this upset. It's the stuff dreams are made of.