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oogiebe wrote: ↑29 Dec 2020, 16:15

apollo creed wrote: ↑29 Dec 2020, 16:12

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Dec 2020, 16:02
Why do you keep posting ratings that are wrong?

I've already addressed this post in another thread.

Can you not read?

Is the truth hurting you too much? Golovkin fought top 10 Ring Magazine rated fighters at mw including the 'crème de la crème' of them at that particularly time in Jacobs and 2XCanelo!

Careful, EO can lift more than AJ and run faster than Broner.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 01:56

gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Dec 2020, 21:40

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Dec 2020, 16:02
Why do you keep posting ratings that are wrong?

I've already addressed this post in another thread.

Can you not read?

You didn't address sh*t. You pointed out what you wished was true instead of what is true. All of these guys were in fact Ring Magazine rated Top 10 guys at the time GGG fought them.

For some reason you really don't like Golovkin, and want to cut him down as if he's never accomplished anything. I don't know what your beef is with him, but it's ridiculous.

Nobody ever said he was the greatest Middleweight of all time, but he ain't just some bum either.

Do you have ten fingers?

And can you also count to ten?

If so, I’ll try and keep things simple for you, by focussing on just one the incorrect claims.

The following fighters were rated above Curtis Stevens by The RING during 2013:

1) Sergio Martinez
2) Gennady Golovkin
3) Darren Barker
4) Daniel Geale
5) Felix Sturm
6) Peter Quillin
7) Martin Murray
8) Matthew Macklin
9) Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam
10) Marco Antonio Rubio

Here’s a hyperlink of the archived web page of The RING’s middleweight rankings extracted on the 15th October 2013, with GGG fighting Curtis Stevens on the 2nd November 2013.

Therefore, how on earth can Curtis Stevens possibly be considered by The RING as a top-ten world-rated middleweight when GGG fought him, when they believed that ten fighters were better than him?

Most of Apollo Creed’s ratings are wrong, either because he simply made a mistake, or he forget to consider The RING champion.

I bet you feel rather silly now, because the person you apparently despise has once gain proven you wrong. And it just keeps happening over-and-over again! It must really frustrate you!!!

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 10:10

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 01:56

gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Dec 2020, 21:40

You didn't address sh*t. You pointed out what you wished was true instead of what is true. All of these guys were in fact Ring Magazine rated Top 10 guys at the time GGG fought them.

For some reason you really don't like Golovkin, and want to cut him down as if he's never accomplished anything. I don't know what your beef is with him, but it's ridiculous.

Nobody ever said he was the greatest Middleweight of all time, but he ain't just some bum either.

Do you have ten fingers?

And can you also count to ten?

If so, I’ll try and keep things simple for you, by focussing on just one the incorrect claims.

The following fighters were rated above Curtis Stevens by The RING during 2013:

1) Sergio Martinez
2) Gennady Golovkin
3) Darren Barker
4) Daniel Geale
5) Felix Sturm
6) Peter Quillin
7) Martin Murray
8) Matthew Macklin
9) Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam
10) Marco Antonio Rubio

Here’s a hyperlink of the archived web page of The RING’s middleweight rankings extracted on the 15th October 2013, with GGG fighting Curtis Stevens on the 2nd November 2013.

Therefore, how on earth can Curtis Stevens possibly be considered by The RING as a top-ten world-rated middleweight when GGG fought him, when they believed that ten fighters were better than him?

Most of Apollo Creed’s ratings are wrong, either because he simply made a mistake, or he forget to consider The RING champion.

I bet you feel rather silly now, because the person you apparently despise has once gain proven you wrong. And it just keeps happening over-and-over again! It must really frustrate you!!!

Hey that's right! Marco Antonio Rubio was a Top 10 opponent too. Thanks for adding another one to the list.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Dec 2020, 21:37

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 05:34

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 05:27

So Golovkin wanting to keep his IBF belt meant he had to defend against Kamil, correct? and you said GGG;s team pushed the mando forward? That's not a bad thing is it? I've seen that happen before, he just got the mando out of the way before it was called on him.. That not true?

Szeremeta was the IBF’s number 3 ranked challenger that never competed in a final eliminator. He’d never beaten a world-rated opponent either.

And Tom Loeffler told the media they were planning to lobby the IBF to instate him as GGG’s mandatory challenger, because they wanted Golovkin to have the freedom of choice to pick-and-choose future opponents.

And we also know for sure that Team GGG previously tried, but failed, to make the Szeremeta fight before the Polish fighter became the IBF’s mandatory.

And excluding Canelo, what top-five (ESPN, The RING and TBRB) world-rated opponents has GGG faced since March 2017?

I just think it’s time for GGG to prove he still has it by fighting an elite-level opponent.

He needs to prove he’s worthy of the praise, hype and admiration.

He already proved it a long time ago.

apollo creed wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 10:35

gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Dec 2020, 21:37

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 05:34
Szeremeta was the IBF’s number 3 ranked challenger that never competed in a final eliminator. He’d never beaten a world-rated opponent either.

And Tom Loeffler told the media they were planning to lobby the IBF to instate him as GGG’s mandatory challenger, because they wanted Golovkin to have the freedom of choice to pick-and-choose future opponents.

And we also know for sure that Team GGG previously tried, but failed, to make the Szeremeta fight before the Polish fighter became the IBF’s mandatory.

And excluding Canelo, what top-five (ESPN, The RING and TBRB) world-rated opponents has GGG faced since March 2017?

I just think it’s time for GGG to prove he still has it by fighting an elite-level opponent.

He needs to prove he’s worthy of the praise, hype and admiration.

He already proved it a long time ago.

Very true. eo desperately wants to see a 40 y/o past of his prime Golovkin to get defeat by a younger fighter just to come here on this forum and be over the moon with his ol' boring bs.

apollo creed wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 10:35

gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Dec 2020, 21:37

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 05:34
Szeremeta was the IBF’s number 3 ranked challenger that never competed in a final eliminator. He’d never beaten a world-rated opponent either.

And Tom Loeffler told the media they were planning to lobby the IBF to instate him as GGG’s mandatory challenger, because they wanted Golovkin to have the freedom of choice to pick-and-choose future opponents.

And we also know for sure that Team GGG previously tried, but failed, to make the Szeremeta fight before the Polish fighter became the IBF’s mandatory.

And excluding Canelo, what top-five (ESPN, The RING and TBRB) world-rated opponents has GGG faced since March 2017?

I just think it’s time for GGG to prove he still has it by fighting an elite-level opponent.

He needs to prove he’s worthy of the praise, hype and admiration.

He already proved it a long time ago.

Very true. eo desperately wants to see a 40 y/o past of his prime Golovkin looking bad and get defeated by a younger fighter just to come here on this forum and be over the moon with his ol' boring bs.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Dec 2020, 21:40

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Dec 2020, 16:02

apollo creed wrote: ↑29 Dec 2020, 15:47 Grzegorz Proksa - 2012 No. 10 by Ring Magazine
Curtis Stevens - 2013 No. 10 by Ring Magazine
Matthew Macklin - 2013 No. 6 by Ring Magazine
Daniel Geale - 2014 No. 4 by Ring Magazine
David Lemieux - 2015 No. 4 by Ring Magazine
Daniel Jacobs - 2017 No. 2 by Ring Magazine
Saul Alvarez - 2017 Champion by Ring Magazine
Saul Alvarez - 2018 Champion by Ring Magazine
Sergiy Derevyanchenko - 2019 No. 4 by Ring Magazine
Kamil Szeremeta - 2020 No. 6 by Ring Magazine

Deal with it!

Why do you keep posting ratings that are wrong?

I've already addressed this post in another thread.

Can you not read?

You didn't address sh*t. You pointed out what you wished was true instead of what is true. All of these guys were in fact Ring Magazine rated Top 10 guys at the time GGG fought them.

For some reason you really don't like Golovkin, and want to cut him down as if he's never accomplished anything. I don't know what your beef is with him, but it's ridiculous.

Nobody ever said he was the greatest Middleweight of all time, but he ain't just some bum either.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 Dec 2020, 21:41 dang, munguia then andrade, so many ring ranked opponents for ggg!!!!

really hope ggg vs mung happens next, guaranteed fun

apollo creed wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 10:52

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 Dec 2020, 21:41 dang, munguia then andrade, so many ring ranked opponents for ggg!!!!

really hope ggg vs mung happens next, guaranteed fun

It would be a fun fight to watch. Golovkin is on a mission with fighting these top 10 ranked mw's by Ring Magazine.

Perseus wrote: ↑29 Dec 2020, 22:44

gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Dec 2020, 22:05

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 Dec 2020, 22:00 mung is still raw defensively and lacks the jab of ggg, but offensively he's an explosive fighter with fast combinations and every power punch in the book, and is a lot fresher than ggg, i think he's bound to at least land some heavy leather

Oh for sure. He won't go down without a fight.

Landing punches on GGG has never been a problem for anyone.
Hitting GGG without getting hit is the problem for everyone.

I hope Mung vs GGG happens.
All but certain to be a fun fight, a fight GGG will win by stoppage and would be one of his best wins.
Munguia is sgnificantly younger(14 years)undefeated and a former title holder who vacated his belt to move up a division.
Beating that guy is a big win on the resume of any veteran boxer.

Somebody will try to say Munguia is just another blown up super welter. I'm not sold on that........ I think Munguia is a young man who grew out of that division and is a legit middleweight.

Along with that GGG is past his best but not a spent bullet. There is a difference.

Youngster on the rise vs aging vet: almost always an interesting match up.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 Dec 2020, 22:45 Even at 154 Munguia was weighing in nearly 180 on fight nights, he's no smaller than ggg for sure

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 10:30 Not retracting anything. You're wrong.

Sergio Martinez was the Champion, therefore Curtis Stevens was in fact ranked 10.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 11:08

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 10:30 Not retracting anything. You're wrong.

Sergio Martinez was the Champion, therefore Curtis Stevens was in fact ranked 10.

10 + 1 = 11

Simple maths.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 11:09

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 11:08

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 10:30 Not retracting anything. You're wrong.

Sergio Martinez was the Champion, therefore Curtis Stevens was in fact ranked 10.

10 + 1 = 11

Simple maths.

11 opponents. 12 fights. He fought Canelo twice.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 11:10

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 11:09

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 11:08
10 + 1 = 11

Simple maths.

11 opponents. 12 fights. He fought Canelo twice.

He didn't beat Canelo.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 02:18 He was ring rated, a ring magazine top 10 contender.....nothing but facts

adislav123 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 11:23 GOLOVKIN BEAT CANELO TWICE.


BACK TO BACK.

GOT FUCKED OVER BOTH TIMES ON THE SORECARDS.

STILL UNDEFEATED IN THE RING.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 10:13 A special shout to EO for adding another Top 10 opponent to the list that I'd forgotten about.

Grzegorz Proksa - 2012 No. 10 by Ring Magazine
Curtis Stevens - 2013 No. 10 by Ring Magazine
Matthew Macklin - 2013 No. 6 by Ring Magazine
Daniel Geale - 2014 No. 4 by Ring Magazine
David Lemieux - 2015 No. 4 by Ring Magazine
Daniel Jacobs - 2017 No. 2 by Ring Magazine
Saul Alvarez - 2017 Champion by Ring Magazine
Saul Alvarez - 2018 Champion by Ring Magazine
Sergiy Derevyanchenko - 2019 No. 4 by Ring Magazine
Kamil Szeremeta - 2020 No. 6 by Ring Magazine

And now Marco Antonio Rubio

So that's 11 Top 10 opponents.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 10:30 Not retracting anything. You're wrong.

Sergio Martinez was the Champion, therefore Curtis Stevens was in fact ranked 10.

Deal with it.

I have a life. I don't feel the need to write books, and spend hours and hours of research to try to win an internet argument. I was alive at the time, and Following the sport, and I know who was who and what was what.

Your next novel ain't gonna change that.

Hell maybe you'll accidentally dig up a 12th Top 10 opponent that Golovkin beat by trying to prove me wrong. I believe in you.

apollo creed wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 11:27

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 10:13 A special shout to EO for adding another Top 10 opponent to the list that I'd forgotten about.

Grzegorz Proksa - 2012 No. 10 by Ring Magazine
Curtis Stevens - 2013 No. 10 by Ring Magazine
Matthew Macklin - 2013 No. 6 by Ring Magazine
Daniel Geale - 2014 No. 4 by Ring Magazine
David Lemieux - 2015 No. 4 by Ring Magazine
Daniel Jacobs - 2017 No. 2 by Ring Magazine
Saul Alvarez - 2017 Champion by Ring Magazine
Saul Alvarez - 2018 Champion by Ring Magazine
Sergiy Derevyanchenko - 2019 No. 4 by Ring Magazine
Kamil Szeremeta - 2020 No. 6 by Ring Magazine

And now Marco Antonio Rubio

So that's 11 Top 10 opponents.

wow! I'm impressed! eo is doing a good job!

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 10:40

apollo creed wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 10:35

gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Dec 2020, 21:37

He already proved it a long time ago.

Very true. eo desperately wants to see a 40 y/o past of his prime Golovkin looking bad and get defeated by a younger fighter just to come here on this forum and be over the moon with his ol' boring bs.

he's fvcking slavering over it. He's written most of the posts already and saved them so he an just C&P onto the forum

lucky us.....

apollo creed wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 11:46

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 10:40

apollo creed wrote: ↑30 Dec 2020, 10:35

Very true. eo desperately wants to see a 40 y/o past of his prime Golovkin looking bad and get defeated by a younger fighter just to come here on this forum and be over the moon with his ol' boring bs.

he's fvcking slavering over it. He's written most of the posts already and saved them so he an just C&P onto the forum

lucky us.....

True. He's fingering his butthole just when he's thinking about that.lol