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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 16:44
by Verdi
Do we know if Wallin beat anyone of note in the ams?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 16:48
by oogiebe
Verdi wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 16:44 Do we know if Wallin beat anyone of note in the ams?
I couldn't find anything that shows his record other than he was 34-12. So no.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 17:13
by Onetimeonly
candyslim wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 14:17 No you haven't: All you have ever said (admittedly you have said it a lot !) is that Wilder would never have turned down the biggest payday by far. *

Apart from the fact he has turned down double that to face Whyte, and thirty times that to face Joshua (over two fights) ignoring that, you have never addressed my much repeated response that it wasn't ever anticipated that he wouldn't get paid in full because if Povetkin was guilty then Team Wilder would sue for loss of earnings. That's what they did, they sued and they lost, not in Moscow but in New York in the US of A.

Makes you think doesn't it? Sadly not in your case. You're like a Mao Tse Tung accolyte quoting from his little red book :verysad:

* Only today you added a new bit about how much the rematch would be worth but true to form you ignored what I said in response. I don't care about that because I'd much rather discuss this with someone whose mind isn't nailed shut.
Wilder does not run the wbc, povetkin would have been a more lucrative champion for them at the time. It makes no sense for that org to orchestrate a conspiracy to cost themselves money. Sound familiar? It should because Ive literally answered all your deep questions a dozen times. Your whyte nonsense more than that. Funny that your bias runs so deep that my common sense business approach is a mind nailed shut while you sit on your roof in a tin foil hat.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 17:20
by Onetimeonly
You're not very familiar with our court system if you think where you're born matters as much as your bankroll. I never followed any of those proceedings.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 17:24
by oogiebe
Why does any thread titled with Fury or Whyte end up about Wilder? Very curious. :lol:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 17:24
by Thunder and Lightning
oogiebe wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 16:48
Verdi wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 16:44 Do we know if Wallin beat anyone of note in the ams?
I couldn't find anything that shows his record other than he was 34-12. So no.
Wallins full amatuer record is on here (swedish page) he fought Joshua but lost.
Its funny though he was never even the best in Sweden as an amatuer.
https://mrboxhist.se/boxare/otto-wallin

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 17:28
by margaret thatcher
Wallin is a EBU level fighter, him vs Kabayel wouldve been good and was supposed to happen I think. He's better than Schwarz but still way below this level

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 17:47
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 17:24 Why does any thread titled with Fury or Whyte end up about Wilder? Very curious. :lol:
Good question. It's any thread a certain someone posts in. I wouldn't be surprised to read slim lament wilder in what books are you reading lately.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 18:18
by punchoutsb
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 17:28 Wallin is a EBU level fighter, him vs Kabayel wouldve been good and was supposed to happen I think. He's better than Schwarz but still way below this level
I believe he would've beat Kabayal based on what I've seen. He's definitely one of the best at the Euro level (which does not include the Euros on the World level), better than Schwarz but levels below Fury.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 18:24
by punchoutsb
Bandog wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 07:37
adislav123 wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 07:33 Sorry to say to all you imbeciles, but you're all fuckked in the brain, punchout excluded plus few others, ooglie, jambaa & 1timelonely NOT! YOU GUYS SUCK BIG TIME!!!

Freakin Schwarz was rank3d 2 WBO (why only god knows) prior fury fighting him, where's Fury now ranked wbo?

freakin Wallin is ranked 4 WBA behind usyk ruiz & joshua WBA (for what reason god knows)?

WHOM ELSE SHOULD FURY HAVE FOUGHT START OF SEPTEMBER?

State a name and the possibilty to make that fight happen, don't bother@ keep on babbling poo!
Joe Parker
Parker is clearly trying to work his way back into contention via a winning streak, a goal that would likely be negatively effected by fighting Tyson Fury. If you're Parkers people why on earth would you target a Fury non-title fight when you can beat a few scrubs to potentially earn a shot against Ruiz next year?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 18:36
by margaret thatcher
oogiebe wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 17:24 Why does any thread titled with Fury or Whyte end up about Wilder? Very curious. :lol:
Well, for this thread, you'd have to ask yourself and onetimeonly. You guys were the ones who brought him up on the first page.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 18:43
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 18:36
oogiebe wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 17:24 Why does any thread titled with Fury or Whyte end up about Wilder? Very curious. :lol:
Well, for this thread, you'd have to ask yourself and onetimeonly. You guys were the ones who brought him up on the first page.
How? by mentioning that another poster should refrain from Wilder discussions in response to another poster? Oh yeah! :lol:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 18:44
by margaret thatcher
oogiebe wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 18:43
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 18:36

Well, for this thread, you'd have to ask yourself and onetimeonly. You guys were the ones who brought him up on the first page.
How? by mentioning that another poster should refrain from Wilder discussions in response to another poster? Oh yeah! :lol:
Exactly. You guys clearly got the ball rolling yourselfs. No one else had even mentioned Wilder. You guys spent more time talking about candyslim and Wilder then candyslim actually did talking about him.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 18:46
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 18:44
oogiebe wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 18:43

How? by mentioning that another poster should refrain from Wilder discussions in response to another poster? Oh yeah! :lol:
Exactly. You guys clearly got the ball rolling yourselfs. No one else had even mentioned Wilder. You guys spent more time talking about candyslim and Wilder then candyslim actually did talking about him.
Right, it caused a skirmish between Slim and OTO several pages in with no reference to either of the two posts you reference. Not that it matters. I have some 'horsing' round to do in the OT.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 18:50
by margaret thatcher
Just saying, you guys clearly brought Wilder (and candyslim) into it yourselfs this time, with several posts on them before either had been mentioned by anyone else.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 18:51
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 18:50 Just saying, you guys clearly brought Wilder (and candyslim) into it yourselfs, with several posts on them before either had been mentioned by anyone else.
I made one. But you're not completely wrong.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 19:24
by Onetimeonly
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 18:50 Just saying, you guys clearly brought Wilder (and candyslim) into it yourselfs this time, with several posts on them before either had been mentioned by anyone else.
My mention of wilder was clearly during the flow of the thread. I was just using the biggest American heavyweight and his lack of mainstream popularity as an example why it doesn't make a difference that fury is fighting a European. I did start a conversation about slim for no reason at all. Fair play there.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 21:39
by tennessee
Just make joshua fight. Still be a good fight. Lets do it before Andy ruins everything

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 21:57
by pound per pound
This fight Shite. Wallin is rated where in box rec?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 21:58
by oogiebe
pound per pound wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 21:57 This fight Shite. Wallin is rated where in box rec?
48?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 04 Aug 2019, 01:52
by Verdi
Thunder and Lightning wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 17:24
oogiebe wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 16:48

I couldn't find anything that shows his record other than he was 34-12. So no.
Wallins full amatuer record is on here (swedish page) he fought Joshua but lost.
Its funny though he was never even the best in Sweden as an amatuer.
https://mrboxhist.se/boxare/otto-wallin
Thanks for that.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 04 Aug 2019, 02:19
by candyslim
Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 17:13
candyslim wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 14:17 No you haven't: All you have ever said (admittedly you have said it a lot !) is that Wilder would never have turned down the biggest payday by far. *

Apart from the fact he has turned down double that to face Whyte, and thirty times that to face Joshua (over two fights) ignoring that, you have never addressed my much repeated response that it wasn't ever anticipated that he wouldn't get paid in full because if Povetkin was guilty then Team Wilder would sue for loss of earnings. That's what they did, they sued and they lost, not in Moscow but in New York in the US of A.

Makes you think doesn't it? Sadly not in your case. You're like a Mao Tse Tung accolyte quoting from his little red book :verysad:

* Only today you added a new bit about how much the rematch would be worth but true to form you ignored what I said in response. I don't care about that because I'd much rather discuss this with someone whose mind isn't nailed shut.
Wilder does not run the wbc, povetkin would have been a more lucrative champion for them at the time. It makes no sense for that org to orchestrate a conspiracy to cost themselves money. Sound familiar? It should because Ive literally answered all your deep questions a dozen times. Your whyte nonsense more than that. Funny that your bias runs so deep that my common sense business approach is a mind nailed shut while you sit on your roof in a tin foil hat.
No of course Wilder doesn't run the WBC, that's Al Haymon. Anyway as has rightly been pointed out this doesn't belong on this thread so I'll say no more.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 04 Aug 2019, 12:09
by Onetimeonly
candyslim wrote: 04 Aug 2019, 02:19
Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 17:13

Wilder does not run the wbc, povetkin would have been a more lucrative champion for them at the time. It makes no sense for that org to orchestrate a conspiracy to cost themselves money. Sound familiar? It should because Ive literally answered all your deep questions a dozen times. Your whyte nonsense more than that. Funny that your bias runs so deep that my common sense business approach is a mind nailed shut while you sit on your roof in a tin foil hat.
No of course Wilder doesn't run the WBC, that's Al Haymon. Anyway as has rightly been pointed out this doesn't belong on this thread so I'll say no more.
:lol:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 04 Aug 2019, 14:51
by tiny_acres
I think every topic turns to Wilder, Canelo or PBC
There's more to the sport than this

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

Posted: 04 Aug 2019, 17:31
by Ilya Muromets
oogiebe wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 21:58
pound per pound wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 21:57 This fight Shite. Wallin is rated where in box rec?
48?

That's what I said, 48?





One fight like this OK, two not OK. Fool me once shame on you; fool me twice shame on me.