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Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 08:25

dr_devious wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 07:34 What time will ring walk be for this one? Might put the alarm on

Maybe 4am

Thanks RKO

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 12:16 Any idea if there are fines in their contract for missing weight? What happens if Kovalev comes at 180?

He'll be deducted 121 points and have to wear 44 oz gloves

Canelo Alvarez $35 million, Sergey Kovalev $3 million

Kovalev will be making much more than what’s listed on the Nevada Athletic Commission paysheet.

Thanks to his deal with DAZN, Canelo’s official guarantee is $35 million, and that’s not even including subscription-driven incentives in his contract, or the money he makes from Mexican TV. Kovalev’s guarantee is a decidedly modest $3 million, but he’s reportedly making much more than that. The Athletic reported that Kovalev’s full sum is $12 million, although a cut of that will go to his co-promoters Main Events and Top Rank. It’s a career-high salary for Kovalev, who is just two months removed from his KO win over Anthony Yarde in Russia.

Here are the full salaries, per ESPN:

Canelo Alvarez: $35 million
Sergey Kovalev: $3 million (guaranteed several million more)

Ryan Garcia: $250,000
Romero Duno: $50,000

Bakhram Murtazaliev: $55,000
Jorge Fortea: $20,000

Seniesa Estrada: $50,000
Marlen Esparza: $50,000

Blair Cobbs: $20,000
Carlos Ortiz: $5,000

Meiirim Nursultanov: $12,500
Cristian Olivas: $12,000

Evan Holyfield: - Unknown
Nick Winstead: - Unknown

look at canelo's massive thick HGH-swollen brow ridge

Ezzard wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 07:28 It seems to me that right now if Kov spent 12 rounds one-two’ing a heavy bag he would at some point run out of steam and become vulnerable to a stoppage defeat.

Ward was not big or powerful and whilst both fights were dodgy for different reasons the smaller man was not steam-rollered.

Ward started his career at 168. He is SIGNIFICANTLY larger than Canelo.
You really do talk some tripe.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 12:45 look at canelo's massive thick HGH-swollen brow ridge

seriously, that ridge of bone could stop a fvcking bullet

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 13:22

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 12:45 look at canelo's massive thick HGH-swollen brow ridge

seriously, that ridge of bone could stop a fvcking bullet

He's always had a prominent brow

Although Canelo Alvarez, who is moving up two weight divisions to 175 pounds, did not seek a catch weight for his light heavyweight world title challenge of Sergey Kovalev in an effort to drain him from his natural fighting weight, there is a rehydration clause in the contract, sources told ESPN. It requires both fighters to submit to a weight check on Saturday morning at which neither man can weigh more than 185 pounds, one source said. There are severe financial penalties if either man is over. Kovalev is used to weight checks on the morning of the fight from his days of holding the IBF title because that organization requires them.

Dan Rafael, ESPN Senior Writer

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 15:26 Although Canelo Alvarez, who is moving up two weight divisions to 175 pounds, did not seek a catch weight for his light heavyweight world title challenge of Sergey Kovalev in an effort to drain him from his natural fighting weight, there is a rehydration clause in the contract, sources told ESPN. It requires both fighters to submit to a weight check on Saturday morning at which neither man can weigh more than 185 pounds, one source said. There are severe financial penalties if either man is over. Kovalev is used to weight checks on the morning of the fight from his days of holding the IBF title because that organization requires them.

Dan Rafael, ESPN Senior Writer

Scumbag. I can't wait until someone gets sued for a deplorable "rehydration clause".

Ricky wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 16:55

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 15:26 Although Canelo Alvarez, who is moving up two weight divisions to 175 pounds, did not seek a catch weight for his light heavyweight world title challenge of Sergey Kovalev in an effort to drain him from his natural fighting weight, there is a rehydration clause in the contract, sources told ESPN. It requires both fighters to submit to a weight check on Saturday morning at which neither man can weigh more than 185 pounds, one source said. There are severe financial penalties if either man is over. Kovalev is used to weight checks on the morning of the fight from his days of holding the IBF title because that organization requires them.

Dan Rafael, ESPN Senior Writer

Scumbag. I can't wait until someone gets sued for a deplorable "rehydration clause".

Strange point of view. I think all contests should have a maximum weight gain.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:06

Ricky wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 16:55


Scumbag. I can't wait until someone gets sued for a deplorable "rehydration clause".

Strange point of view. I think all contests should have a maximum weight gain.

Yeah let's see partially hydrated fighters get some brain injuries.

That's the reason why same-day weighins were outlawed, but it seems that if you have enough money you can enforce same-day weighins anyway.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:06

Ricky wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 16:55


Scumbag. I can't wait until someone gets sued for a deplorable "rehydration clause".

Strange point of view. I think all contests should have a maximum weight gain.

Do you think because of Canelo's 'reputation' for generous judging, that the judges may actually be harsh on him to make up for it, and that Canelo is actually at an unfair disadvantage now?

Ricky wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:19

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:06

Strange point of view. I think all contests should have a maximum weight gain.

Yeah let's see partially hydrated fighters get some brain injuries.

That's the reason why same-day weighins were outlawed, but it seems that if you have enough money you can enforce same-day weighins anyway.

Same day weigh ins are not outlawed, the vast majority of contests have same day weigh ins.
Title fights are day before weigh ins. A maximum weight gain would encourage boxers to compete in a more appropriate division. Some would still boil down too much, there is no financially viable ‘perfect’ system.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:19

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:06

Strange point of view. I think all contests should have a maximum weight gain.

Do you think because of Canelo's 'reputation' for generous judging, that the judges may actually be harsh on him to make up for it, and that Canelo is actually at an unfair disadvantage now?

That idea has occurred to me in the past, I said something along those lines in the build up to Alvarez v Golovkin 2.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 15:26 Although Canelo Alvarez, who is moving up two weight divisions to 175 pounds, did not seek a catch weight for his light heavyweight world title challenge of Sergey Kovalev in an effort to drain him from his natural fighting weight, there is a rehydration clause in the contract, sources told ESPN. It requires both fighters to submit to a weight check on Saturday morning at which neither man can weigh more than 185 pounds, one source said. There are severe financial penalties if either man is over. Kovalev is used to weight checks on the morning of the fight from his days of holding the IBF title because that organization requires them.

Dan Rafael, ESPN Senior Writer

I hope Kov drops him on his head now even more than i did before

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:26

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:19

Do you think because of Canelo's 'reputation' for generous judging, that the judges may actually be harsh on him to make up for it, and that Canelo is actually at an unfair disadvantage now?

That idea has occurred to me in the past, I said something along those lines in the build up to Alvarez v Golovkin 2.

Simply put No.
It's happened in to many of Canelos fights and has been highlighted for years. It's not gonna change now

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:25

Ricky wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:19


Yeah let's see partially hydrated fighters get some brain injuries.

That's the reason why same-day weighins were outlawed, but it seems that if you have enough money you can enforce same-day weighins anyway.

Same day weigh ins are not outlawed, the vast majority of contests have same day weigh ins.
Title fights are day before weigh ins. A maximum weight gain would encourage boxers to compete in a more appropriate division. Some would still boil down too much, there is no financially viable ‘perfect’ system.

As far as I'm aware most comissions state the weighin take place between 36-24 hours prior to the fight.

Same day weighins are a dangerous practice, particularly for the short notice journeyman. Guys like Floyd and Canelo get to circumvent the rules though.

Ricky wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 18:11

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:25

Same day weigh ins are not outlawed, the vast majority of contests have same day weigh ins.
Title fights are day before weigh ins. A maximum weight gain would encourage boxers to compete in a more appropriate division. Some would still boil down too much, there is no financially viable ‘perfect’ system.

As far as I'm aware most comissions state the weighin take place between 36-24 hours prior to the fight.

Same day weighins are a dangerous practice, particularly for the short notice journeyman. Guys like Floyd and Canelo get to circumvent the rules though.

Nope.

I watched the weigh-in live on a Youtube stream. Kovalev was over the light-heavy limit and given one hour to lose the excess weight. Dodgy dealings with the scales to give Alvaroids another advantage?

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 19:08 I watched the weigh-in live on a Youtube stream. Kovalev was over the light-heavy limit and given one hour to lose the excess weight. Dodgy dealings with the scales to give Alvaroids another advantage?

More likely that Kovalev was just a little over.

A mere quarter pound. He made weight on the second attempt. Nothing event.

Canelo looked ripped at 174.5.

dr_devious wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:26

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 15:26 Although Canelo Alvarez, who is moving up two weight divisions to 175 pounds, did not seek a catch weight for his light heavyweight world title challenge of Sergey Kovalev in an effort to drain him from his natural fighting weight, there is a rehydration clause in the contract, sources told ESPN. It requires both fighters to submit to a weight check on Saturday morning at which neither man can weigh more than 185 pounds, one source said. There are severe financial penalties if either man is over. Kovalev is used to weight checks on the morning of the fight from his days of holding the IBF title because that organization requires them.

Dan Rafael, ESPN Senior Writer

I hope Kov drops him on his head now even more than i did before