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snake33 wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 16:01

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 15:49

No Lewis did in reality beat him. That happened. Really.
And the laughing thing is pathetic. You should stop doing that. Makes you look all trollie.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 15:59

snake33 wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 15:58
Holyfield is right under Fury only due to size. Holy did great while being an undersized heavyweight.
I don't think he ever would have beat Lewis for instance.

He should always be above Mike Tyson. He definitely could beat lewis.

You have a point. I put Tyson higher because of punchers chance and in his prime he
really knew how to get the power to the target. Had Tyson fought Holyfield before he
fired Rooney and was ruined by King and went to jail, I think he would have beat him.

snake33 wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 16:06

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 15:59
He should always be above Mike Tyson. He definitely could beat lewis.

You have a point. I put Tyson higher because of punchers chance and in his prime he
really knew how to get the power to the target. Had Tyson fought Holyfield before he
fired Rooney and was ruined by King and went to jail, I think he would have beat him.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 15:59

snake33 wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 15:58
Holyfield is right under Fury only due to size. Holy did great while being an undersized heavyweight.
I don't think he ever would have beat Lewis for instance.

He should always be above Mike Tyson. He definitely could beat lewis.

I thought the rematch was a legit draw, unlike the first fight. Would only take a fraction more that a prime Holyfield could muster for the win.

Lennox is a bit overrated in head-to-heads

Blodhemn wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 16:37

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 15:59
He should always be above Mike Tyson. He definitely could beat lewis.

I thought the rematch was a legit draw, unlike the first fight. Would only take a fraction more that a prime Holyfield could muster for the win.

Agreed, though I had ll edging it. Id favor prime holy solidly.

snake33 wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 16:01

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 15:49

No Lewis did in reality beat him. That happened. Really.
And the laughing thing is pathetic. You should stop doing that. Makes you look all trollie.

At the time of stoppage, scores were 58-56 in favor of Vitaly, and that was generous to Lewis who was hurt a couple times.

They were all 4-2 but there was a swing round and it easily could'be been 3-3., not to mention the momentum was clearly with Lewis, Vit was reeling, aside from having his face just a pile of pulp

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 16:52

snake33 wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 16:01

No Lewis did in reality beat him. That happened. Really.
And the laughing thing is pathetic. You should stop doing that. Makes you look all trollie.

At the time of stoppage, scores were 58-56 in favor of Vitaly, and that was generous to Lewis who was hurt a couple times.

I thought LL was better in the prior rounds before the stoppage and was beginning putting it on Vitali better than the first three/four rounds. Hard to judge a 5 1/2 round fight.

Full 6 bruh

Doesn't matter if he was up 60-20.

It does matter, because since the judges had it 4-2, Vitali was the real winner and it doesn't matter that he was actually stopped and had his head punched off

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 17:09 It does matter, because since the judges had it 4-2, Vitali was the real winner and it doesn't matter that he was actually stopped and had his head punched off

Apparently not so some. Vit has gotten much better over the years.

EDIT: Not FOR some.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 17:01 Full 6 bruh

My mistake. I thought it was stopped in the 6th. Forget it was stopped after six.

The funniest part is he also gets credit for his brothers much better wins and I read on here yesterday that he's underrated.

Blodhemn wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 16:37

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 15:59
He should always be above Mike Tyson. He definitely could beat lewis.

I thought the rematch was a legit draw, unlike the first fight. Would only take a fraction more that a prime Holyfield could muster for the win.

They would have both been younger and so Lewis would still win.
Also, Lewis won the second fight. They said so in the ring and everything.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 17:17 The funniest part is he also gets credit for his brothers much better wins and I read on here yesterday that he's underrated.

There has got to be a dozen threads where someone is exaggerating Vit's accomplishments or conflating the brothers' records.

snake33 wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 17:30

Blodhemn wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 16:37

I thought the rematch was a legit draw, unlike the first fight. Would only take a fraction more that a prime Holyfield could muster for the win.

They would have both been younger and so Lewis would still win.
Also, Lewis won the second fight. They said so in the ring and everything.

Lewis vs Holy? I thought Lewis won both and the first fight by a larger margin. To be fair, I think Holy was 3/4 years from his absolute peak. Lewis was in the midst of his prime. And LL is my fav HW of all time. A peak to peak fight would have been a much better fight whereby Holy would have made Lewis engage much more.

Fury the best since Lewis? Guess he temporarily has what Ruiz temporarily had when he KO'd Joshua.

Bandog wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 21:13 Fury the best since Lewis? Guess he temporarily has what Ruiz temporarily had when he KO'd Joshua.

Folks are enthralled right now. Can't wait to see the next greatest.

Lol who was saying that about Ruiz?

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 21:19 Lol who was saying that about Ruiz?

Go peruse Dag's old rankings thread shortly after Ruiz TKO'd AJ.

He ranked Ruiz as the best since Lewis, or just 1 at the time? Big difference

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 21:28 He ranked Ruiz as the best since Lewis, or just 1 at the time? Big difference

Not quite that far,. Just the accolades bestowed upon him from some posters.

Ya I didn't think anyone was saying that, doggy boi is full of it

Never got swept away in the Ruiz love