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Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 05:44
by Counter-puncher
gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Jan 2021, 22:59
oogiebe wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 01:44
squiggy wrote: ↑26 Jan 2021, 21:55
Come on, man. Canelo Alvarez would never win a major fight at heavyweight. This is getting to be about one step shy of "I wonder how he would do if he fought Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali at the same time while they shot him with tranquilizer darts so those two might have a chance."
It's like an SNL skit on "da'Bears."
Ditka. Polish Sausage. Bears. Bulls. Polish Sausage. Canelo dominates at Heavyweight. Bears. Ditka.
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 05:59
by emallini
John Ruiz smashes Canelo
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 10:34
by gilgamesh
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 10:37
by gilgamesh
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Jan 2021, 15:40
gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Jan 2021, 10:15
You honestly gonna sit there and act like you didn't bust Roy Jones to pieces for PED use, and excuse Canelo completely saying that he was later cleared? Even though a fight was cancelled over it because of him whereas a fight was never cancelled due to Roy?
Hey it ain't just me pal.
Who else remembers EO's Double Standards? Canelo didn't duck anybody, while GGG did. Canelo never did PED use, While Roy did. Anybody remember that?
I sure do.
You must be suffering from the ‘‘Mandela Effect’. Your mind is playing tricks on you.
Or you’re greatly embellishing the reality of the situation.
Dude. Give it up. We all read what you said. You can deny your own words if you want to, but it just makes you look like a guy who can't accept when someone calls him on his hypocrisy.
It makes you look small.
I frankly don't care that much, I just wish when you didn't like a fighter you'd just say so instead of applying absurd double standards where when a guy you like does it, it's cool, and when a guy you don't does it. It's not.
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 10:39
by gilgamesh
Oh hey by the way. I'm seeing now when I look up your posts that it'll bring up stuff where people quoted you as if it's your post. So yeah I didn't ever say Canelo was "The Red Chicken"
I didn't think that sounded like something I'd say. I remember posters saying that, but that wasn't me because that's just not the way I talk.
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 16:30
by Onetimeonly
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 10:39
Oh hey by the way. I'm seeing now when I look up your posts that it'll bring up stuff where people quoted you as if it's your post. So yeah I didn't ever say Canelo was "The Red Chicken"
I didn't think that sounded like something I'd say. I remember posters saying that, but that wasn't me because that's just not the way I talk.
We all struggle to admit when we're wrong, but this guy is another level. I'll always laugh at his lengthy novels defending himself after he said canelo only fought once in 18.
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 20:02
by Enlightened-One
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 10:39
Oh hey by the way. I'm seeing now when I look up your posts that it'll bring up stuff where people quoted you as if it's your post.
So yeah I didn't ever say Canelo was "The Red Chicken"
I didn't think that sounded like something I'd say. I remember posters saying that, but that wasn't me because that's just not the way I talk.
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=207607&p=4554977&h ... o#p4554977
I’ve shared this link with you twice now.
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 20:03
by gilgamesh
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 20:02
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 10:39
Oh hey by the way. I'm seeing now when I look up your posts that it'll bring up stuff where people quoted you as if it's your post. So yeah I didn't ever say Canelo was "The Red Chicken"
I didn't think that sounded like something I'd say. I remember posters saying that, but that wasn't me because that's just not the way I talk.
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=207607&p=4554977&h ... o#p4554977
Still don't seem like something I'd say.
Your Double Standards though were very recent.
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 20:07
by Enlightened-One
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 20:03
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 20:02
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 10:39
Oh hey by the way. I'm seeing now when I look up your posts that it'll bring up stuff where people quoted you as if it's your post. So yeah I didn't ever say Canelo was "The Red Chicken"
I didn't think that sounded like something I'd say. I remember posters saying that, but that wasn't me because that's just not the way I talk.
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=207607&p=4554977&h ... o#p4554977
Still don't seem like something I'd say.
Your Double Standards though were very recent.
Should be easy for you to quote my words then, shouldn’t it?
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 20:08
by gilgamesh
Also whatever opinion I had of Canelo back then I don't have a negative opinion of him now. My problem with him at the time would've been due to his ducking Golovkin, now that he's fought him twice I can't well hold that against him anymore.
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 20:09
by gilgamesh
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 20:07
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 20:03
Still don't seem like something I'd say.
Your Double Standards though were very recent.
Should be easy for you to quote my words then, shouldn’t it?
Not really. Because you post so damn much I don't remember where it was you said it, and I don't feel like looking through 100 or 200 posts to find what I know damn well you said. Everyone else knows it too.
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 20:11
by gilgamesh
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 20:16
by margaret thatcher
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 04:42
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Jan 2021, 15:46
ya, same amazingly equal standards, when ggg fighting a guy whose been a mw like 10 years = fighting a blown up junior middle, but our pbc king errol fighting a guy who was at 140 2 years ago = fighting a legit welter and MUST DEFEND CLAIM OF FIGHTING SMALLER MAN
What on earth are you talking about?
standards bruh, standards
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 20:18
by gilgamesh
What's wrong EO? You got nothing to say now that I've quoted the thread?
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 20:30
by Enlightened-One
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 20:18
What's wrong EO? You got nothing to say now that I've quoted the thread?
Quote the sentences, like I did with your post, and let’s discuss their literal meaning and whether they were factually accurate or not.
I’d prefer to defend my actual words in isolation and in context, rather than someone’s interpretation of them or their attempts to “read between the lines”.
And I guess that’s the reason you’re apparently fearful to directly quote my words.
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 20:33
by margaret thatcher
he's saying you look scurred gilly, you gonna lay down like a bitch for that?
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 20:36
by Enlightened-One
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 20:18
What's wrong EO? You got nothing to say now that I've quoted the thread?
I’ve just realised, after admitting to calling Canelo “The Red Chicken”... and me quoting your posts on two occasions...
You’ve abused your moderator powers and removed “The Red Chicken” phrase from your posts altogether, without applying a modification time stamp.
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 20:37
by gilgamesh
"Roy Jones Jr. is respected and admired by this forum, despite being a proven drug cheat that rarely underwent PED testing.
Canelo is despised by this forum. And he's also ridiculed for submitting an adverse test sample that would have undeniably been cleared today had the current WADA protocols applied.
And like I said before, Canelo was ultimately cleared of committing any wrongdoing by WADA, the WBC and also the NSAC."
Your quote EO.
And if you still won't admit to your double standards when it's staring you in the face, then just shut the f*ck up and quit talking to me.
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 20:38
by gilgamesh
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 20:36
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 20:18
What's wrong EO? You got nothing to say now that I've quoted the thread?
I’ve just realised, after admitting to calling Canelo “The Red Chicken”... and me quoting your posts on two occasions...
You’ve abused your moderator powers and removed “The Red Chicken” phrase from your posts altogether, without applying a modification time stamp.
Nah the Red Chicken thing must've been something someone else said. That's not my style. I did mention I didn't like Canelo though. Which is not the way I feel about him now.
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 20:38
by Enlightened-One
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 20:37
"Roy Jones Jr. is respected and admired by this forum, despite being a proven drug cheat that rarely underwent PED testing.
Canelo is despised by this forum. And he's also ridiculed for submitting an adverse test sample that would have undeniably been cleared today had the current WADA protocols applied.
And like I said before, Canelo was ultimately cleared of committing any wrongdoing by WADA, the WBC and also the NSAC."
Your quote EO.
And if you still won't admit to your double standards when it's staring you in the face, then just shut the f*ck up and quit talking to me.
Which sentence of mine do you believe is factually inaccurate?
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 20:39
by gilgamesh
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 20:38
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 20:37
"Roy Jones Jr. is respected and admired by this forum, despite being a proven drug cheat that rarely underwent PED testing.
Canelo is despised by this forum. And he's also ridiculed for submitting an adverse test sample that would have undeniably been cleared today had the current WADA protocols applied.
And like I said before, Canelo was ultimately cleared of committing any wrongdoing by WADA, the WBC and also the NSAC."
Your quote EO.
And if you still won't admit to your double standards when it's staring you in the face, then just shut the f*ck up and quit talking to me.
Which sentence of mine do you believe is factually inaccurate?
The one about Roy Jones Jr. being a proven drug cheat even though he never had a fight cancelled for it while Canelo did.
And I don't think Canelo is despised by the forum. Hell a lot of people were giving him a realistic shot against several Heavyweights. That doesn't sound like they hate him to me.
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 20:40
by Enlightened-One
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 20:38
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 20:36
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 20:18
What's wrong EO? You got nothing to say now that I've quoted the thread?
I’ve just realised, after admitting to calling Canelo “The Red Chicken”... and me quoting your posts on two occasions...
You’ve abused your moderator powers and removed “The Red Chicken” phrase from your posts altogether, without applying a modification time stamp.
Nah the Red Chicken thing must've been something someone else said. That's not my style. I did mention I didn't like Canelo though. Which is not the way I feel about him now.
I quoted your words and provided a link to it on two separate occasions, but you’ve modified your post.
Good for you kid.
Anyway, let’s get back to your accusations of me being factually incorrect, shall we?
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 20:40
by gilgamesh
I don't think I like your tone with that "kid" stuff.
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 20:42
by Enlightened-One
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 20:39
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 20:38
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 20:37
"Roy Jones Jr. is respected and admired by this forum, despite being a proven drug cheat that rarely underwent PED testing.
Canelo is despised by this forum. And he's also ridiculed for submitting an adverse test sample that would have undeniably been cleared today had the current WADA protocols applied.
And like I said before, Canelo was ultimately cleared of committing any wrongdoing by WADA, the WBC and also the NSAC."
Your quote EO.
And if you still won't admit to your double standards when it's staring you in the face, then just shut the f*ck up and quit talking to me.
Which sentence of mine do you believe is factually inaccurate?
The one about Roy Jones Jr. being a proven drug cheat even though he never had a fight cancelled for it while Canelo did.
So are you saying that Roy didn’t test positive for PED’s and refused to submit a B-sample.
The only reason why the fight went ahead, because there wasn’t any rules to technically the prevent the bout.
If you don’t believe me, Google it.
Roy Jones Jr. also rarely underwent PED testing throughout his career.
Do you find facts upsetting?
Re: Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?
Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 20:44
by gilgamesh
And yet he didn't have a fight cancelled for it. While Canelo did. Crazy. It's almost like Canelo did it, and was proven guilty of it, and Roy never was.
I don't find facts upsetting at all. I'm telling you the facts right here. If the fight ain't cancelled over it, then it's hear say at best. If a fight is cancelled over it, then the evidence had to be substantial or they wouldn't have cancelled the fight.
Stands up to pretty basic logic I'd say.
Nobody in Boxing is making money off of a cancelled or postponed fight.