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Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 03:21
by Greg Houston
jameswilson wrote: 10 Mar 2021, 23:14
Boxerbeetle wrote: 10 Mar 2021, 05:00 Surely a headlock / sleeper hold would have been better.
Or a figure 4 leglock.


Or a sharpshooter.
Wooooooooooooooooo

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 03:26
by fizzjambo
margaret thatcher wrote: 10 Mar 2021, 04:39
danconnollyeire wrote: 10 Mar 2021, 04:36
margaret thatcher wrote: 08 Mar 2021, 19:31 how about a slap then? why go open fist
Or how about nothing? Ever slapped a woman?
i haven't , but if the point is self defense/getting her off him as someone suggested and dude is gonna respond any way, why not use a slap then instead of an open fist

this dude using a punch on her is like using a tank to kill an ant, surely slapping her would get across any point/purpose that punching her would do, without doing nearly so much damage, plus its not like its tough to just leave your hand open

that's where the push kick comes into it too, dudes should train that instead of punches for the pub. although as i said before, really it would be best if they settle these issues with dance offs
You have to be a desperate man to try and get a laugh out of this, but wells done anyway.....

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 03:54
by danconnollyeire
forcefraser wrote: 10 Mar 2021, 18:08 I have perfected the one inch punch. I find it more handy than the push kick, especially in confined spaces.

Whether I`d use it on on a woman, even if she was attacking me, is up for debate. There is no doubt that the force of that one inch punch would have SERIOUS consequences for her. Hospital food for a week at least, perhaps a month.

Generally speaking if some bird punches a bloke in the mush, then really she should expect one back.
And posts like that are why you'll never amount to anything

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 03:55
by danconnollyeire
margaret thatcher wrote: 10 Mar 2021, 04:39
danconnollyeire wrote: 10 Mar 2021, 04:36
margaret thatcher wrote: 08 Mar 2021, 19:31 how about a slap then? why go open fist
Or how about nothing? Ever slapped a woman?
i haven't , but if the point is self defense/getting her off him as someone suggested and dude is gonna respond any way, why not use a slap then instead of an open fist

this dude using a punch on her is like using a tank to kill an ant, surely slapping her would get across any point/purpose that punching her would do, without doing nearly so much damage, plus its not like its tough to just leave your hand open

that's where the push kick comes into it too, dudes should train that instead of punches for the pub. although as i said before, really it would be best if they settle these issues with dance offs
Hilarious. You sound like a proper dweeb who wouldn't slap anyone in real life

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 03:59
by margaret thatcher
so you can decide for her to get hit open hand or closed fist, which do you choose bruh? which does less damage?

of course,if you read closely you'd see i was responding to the whole inescapable self defense situation presented, not advocating slaps over avoiding the whole conflict in the first place. "big giant trained boxer has no other choice to use force!!", ya, lol it's such a joke to suggest that if that's the case that there are better options than punching people in the head, right? lolol

but hey, now you can go tell your mom you were a good boy today on the internet and put everyone right :lol:

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 04:02
by danconnollyeire
margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Mar 2021, 03:59 so you can decide for her to get hit open hand or closed fist, which do you choose bruh? which does less damage?

of course,if you read closely you'd see i was responding to the whole inescapable self defense situation presented, not advocating slaps over avoiding the whole conflict in the first place. "big giant trained boxer has no other choice to use force!!", ya, lol it's such a joke to suggest that if that's the case that there are better options than punching people in the head, right? lolol

but hey, now you can go tell your mom you were a good boy today on the internet and put everyone right :lol:
I feel so sorry for you really. It's no wonder you spend just about every minute of every day posting on a boxing forum and jest about hitting women. That's no life, really

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 04:04
by margaret thatcher
danconnollyeire wrote: 11 Mar 2021, 04:02
margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Mar 2021, 03:59 so you can decide for her to get hit open hand or closed fist, which do you choose bruh? which does less damage?

of course,if you read closely you'd see i was responding to the whole inescapable self defense situation presented, not advocating slaps over avoiding the whole conflict in the first place. "big giant trained boxer has no other choice to use force!!", ya, lol it's such a joke to suggest that if that's the case that there are better options than punching people in the head, right? lolol

but hey, now you can go tell your mom you were a good boy today on the internet and put everyone right :lol:
I feel so sorry for you really. It's no wonder you spend just about every minute of every day posting on a boxing forum and jest about hitting women. That's no life, really
so you didn't answer the question

and have no response when i point out that the slap was only for the 'unescapable self defense, must use force' scenario other dudes were presenting. ya, how barbaric that i ask why he couldnt have at least used something much less damaging than a punch in that case. and of course i actually recommend avoiding physical conflict over all


step your game up danny boi :TU:

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 05:05
by MightyWarrior
In the restrained language of the newspaper report, which is of course heavily going to come down on the side of the female victim ~ even then it sounds like she was an absolute nightmare to deal with and obviously this guy is an idiot, and maybe not the brightest, but too many drinks and a mad rush of blood to the head shouldn’t destroy his life...I mean he’s not exactly O.J. Simpson here. He’ll never live it down but at least he can try

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 15:11
by forcefraser
danconnollyeire wrote: 11 Mar 2021, 03:54
forcefraser wrote: 10 Mar 2021, 18:08 I have perfected the one inch punch. I find it more handy than the push kick, especially in confined spaces.

Whether I`d use it on on a woman, even if she was attacking me, is up for debate. There is no doubt that the force of that one inch punch would have SERIOUS consequences for her. Hospital food for a week at least, perhaps a month.

Generally speaking if some bird punches a bloke in the mush, then really she should expect one back.
And posts like that are why you'll never amount to anything
Thanks Daniel, you meat heided cunybaws.

I won't amount to anything? I'd wager.I could mount you and have you screaming like a pimpwhipped biatch.

Are we crystal?

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 15:53
by BigDoofus
It's concerning the number of posters on here who seem to be finding excuses for a professional heavyweight boxer punching a woman in the face.

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 15:57
by fizzjambo
margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Mar 2021, 03:59 so you can decide for her to get hit open hand or closed fist, which do you choose bruh? which does less damage?

of course,if you read closely you'd see i was responding to the whole inescapable self defense situation presented, not advocating slaps over avoiding the whole conflict in the first place. "big giant trained boxer has no other choice to use force!!", ya, lol it's such a joke to suggest that if that's the case that there are better options than punching people in the head, right? lolol

but hey, now you can go tell your mom you were a good boy today on the internet and put everyone right :lol:
Cute. Nothing quite like trying to justify your pathetic attempts to get a laugh from a couple of dozen posters on a forum by cracking funnies on a thread about a 16 odd stone man hitting a woman.
Try and justify it however it sits well with you, or maybe just try and show a little humility sometimes and hold your hands up

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 16:00
by fizzjambo
forcefraser wrote: 11 Mar 2021, 15:11
danconnollyeire wrote: 11 Mar 2021, 03:54
forcefraser wrote: 10 Mar 2021, 18:08 I have perfected the one inch punch. I find it more handy than the push kick, especially in confined spaces.

Whether I`d use it on on a woman, even if she was attacking me, is up for debate. There is no doubt that the force of that one inch punch would have SERIOUS consequences for her. Hospital food for a week at least, perhaps a month.

Generally speaking if some bird punches a bloke in the mush, then really she should expect one back.
And posts like that are why you'll never amount to anything
Thanks Daniel, you meat heided cunybaws.

I won't amount to anything? I'd wager.I could mount you and have you screaming like a pimpwhipped biatch.

Are we crystal?
That you’re just an attention seeking clown?

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 16:04
by fizzjambo
BigDoofus wrote: 11 Mar 2021, 15:53 It's concerning the number of posters on here who seem to be finding excuses for a professional heavyweight boxer punching a woman in the face.
This sums it up for me. In all likelyhood none of us know the full details of the case, and yes there may have been significant provocation. That said though there is no excuse at all for a 16odd stone man to hit a women. Not drink. Not provocation. Not self defence. Nowt.

There also isn’t an excuse to try and find some kind of justification for it, or to think that it’s great banter to crack a few funnies about it either. It’s fecking pathetic

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 16:26
by margaret thatcher
fizzjambo wrote: 11 Mar 2021, 15:57
margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Mar 2021, 03:59 so you can decide for her to get hit open hand or closed fist, which do you choose bruh? which does less damage?

of course,if you read closely you'd see i was responding to the whole inescapable self defense situation presented, not advocating slaps over avoiding the whole conflict in the first place. "big giant trained boxer has no other choice to use force!!", ya, lol it's such a joke to suggest that if that's the case that there are better options than punching people in the head, right? lolol

but hey, now you can go tell your mom you were a good boy today on the internet and put everyone right :lol:
Cute. Nothing quite like trying to justify your pathetic attempts to get a laugh from a couple of dozen posters on a forum by cracking funnies on a thread about a 16 odd stone man hitting a woman.
Try and justify it however it sits well with you, or maybe just try and show a little humility sometimes and hold your hands up
lolo, it's an internet forum bruh, that's all the justfication i need, none of this has any sort of notable impact on anything, maybe take the stick out of your arse :lol: being a mommas boi and a fragile heart on a random forum doesnt make the world a better place whatsoever, doesnt have any impact on this case or make things any better or worse, zilch nada, maybe look elsewhere mate :TU:

and of course the online white knights miss the point anyway, because im not and have not been defending what this guy did at all, and i questioned why he couldnt have responded differently even in the situation he needed to use force (which i doubts he did). the first method of resolution i presented was 100 percent non violent, and then i raised much less damaging alternatives to punches for the guys who just assume he needed to be physical somehow. wow! shock! so barbaric! my heart is bleeding !

or do you prefer that he use a closed fist on her, mate?

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 16:54
by keirw
Very difficult to justify a professional heavyweight boxer punching a woman under any circumstances.

She may have been getting physical herself, but I doubt she was capable of doing any real damage to a man of his size.

I remember having a scuffle with a lad out in Germany (he started it, by the way), he hit the deck after a short exchange of punches and I was happy to leave it at that.

Only when I went to walk away I found myself under attack by an enraged German woman, obviously his wife, girlfriend, sister or whatever.

She was clawing at me with very sharp and expensive looking nails, I used my hands to block the slashes an still have a few scars on my arms for my troubles.

When she eventually wore herself out and stopped I told her in my best pigeon German to get her brother and f**k off, which she did.

Afterwards, almost everyone who witnessed the episode (including women) asked why I didn't just punch her. Honestly, the thought didn't even cross my mind

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 17:08
by therealhustle
She probably deserved it.Women think they’re men nowadays....,

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 17:52
by Grilling Machine
Some women might claim they were pregnant if you push-kicked them, so I'd hesitate to even do that. And I know someone who was taken to court for pushing a woman to the ground, when she claimed he'd hit her. Best policy is always to defend yourself until you're away. If you're in a pub/club/whatever, just get straight out and go to another or home.

Never mind who's right and wrong, because how many times have we seen the initially blameless become massively guilty. Likewise, a well-meaning local intervened in an argument several years ago, took a punch for his trouble, and died when his head hit the pavement.

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 18:04
by Lenny Cravats
tonyevs wrote: 10 Mar 2021, 11:15 Young guy - full of adrenaline and beer, gets screamed at and pushed by some spouty woman .. gives her a slap .. with a closed hand as he is naturally trained to do. Her cheekbone and eye socked are like chicken bones to the blow!

I think we can all understand how this could quite easily happen and have some sympathy for a moment of bad decision making - although if it was our daughter or sister taking the punch you will not.

I too know of two people hit by single punches and dying as a result; both times they were hit whilst not expecting it - a Judas punch - which very likely contributed to the punches fatal effect of having them go head first onto the pavement.

Luckily this woman will make a full recovery, and be wiser as a result to not poke tigers from inside the cage. And hopefully Mitchell Barton can also make a full recovery and resume his boxing career, and also be wiser as a result.
I'm sorry, but no... I can't.

I mean, I can imagine it if this woman was in the process of murdering someone, but that's not something that could 'quite easily' happen.

Maybe I'm the odd one out here, but I can't see anyway (apart from what I mentioned above) that a heavyweight boxer, that's trained for years on how to knock similar sized men unconscious, could justifiably punch a woman in the face.

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 19:31
by chinarich
I haven't a clue who this Mitchell Barton chap is, but there are a lot of apologists for someone hitting a woman on this thread. Apparently there is a right way and a wrong way to do it. Who knew? I thought it was just wrong...

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 22:03
by Pukka Cheese
I got attacked by some deranged bint in town on a night out once. Thought it was quiet funny and was having a giggle with the lads until she started smacking me with her shoe. :o The thought of chinning her never really crossed my mind. Think i ended up running off while calling her a fat slag. :lol:

Anyone trying to make an excuse for a pro HW boxer breaking a womans eyesocket is a bit sus IMO.

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 06:49
by Oiky
In these situations it's best just to stick it on their man if they're there :lol: you'll find in many instances they will actually get aggravated with their woman for putting them in a situation they didn't want to be in :lol: course sometimes something might come off,but it's surprising how much these men will have a row with their wife an them drag them out of the place

Don't know the ins an outs here,group thing it seems

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 07:50
by high tower 1
Have never cracked a girl but saw my mate give one a stone cold stunner. He ended up almost breaking his arse bone on the pavement. He’d been watching too much WWE.

We got into a big scrap with a group of her (male) mates and she was busy belting one of us over the head with her handbag.

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 08:03
by Controversial
I've seen my fair share of drunken women in my younger clubbing years acting like yobs, hitting blokes, screaming like banshees and generally being mouthy idiots. I think many women just assume a bloke won't hit them back and in most cases they wouldn't. I have also seen a woman knock a bloke out in a club and vice versa.

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 08:56
by Terminator666
Count to ten and walk away. Or just walk away.

Re: Heavyweight prospect Mitchell Barton jailed

Posted: 13 Mar 2021, 04:56
by danconnollyeire
forcefraser wrote: 11 Mar 2021, 15:11
danconnollyeire wrote: 11 Mar 2021, 03:54
forcefraser wrote: 10 Mar 2021, 18:08 I have perfected the one inch punch. I find it more handy than the push kick, especially in confined spaces.

Whether I`d use it on on a woman, even if she was attacking me, is up for debate. There is no doubt that the force of that one inch punch would have SERIOUS consequences for her. Hospital food for a week at least, perhaps a month.

Generally speaking if some bird punches a bloke in the mush, then really she should expect one back.
And posts like that are why you'll never amount to anything
Thanks Daniel, you meat heided cunybaws.

I won't amount to anything? I'd wager.I could mount you and have you screaming like a pimpwhipped biatch.

Are we crystal?
😂😂😂 anyone who discussed hitting women like it’s normal is about as unscary a prospect as it gets. Genuinely crying with laughter