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Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 16 Apr 2021, 17:35
by littlepug
mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021, 17:14
littlepug wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021, 16:50
Loved Wharton, got to fight on his undercard when he fought Thornbury, Calzaghe was also supposed to be on against Paul Wright but sprained his ankle and pulled out, I also boxed on the show that Henry was supposed to be headlining against Crawford Ashley for all the domestic light heavyweight titles, the fight got pulled (don’t know why) and Patrick Mullings v Brian Carr took top spot instead.
He retired.
Thought as much, I imagine he started training, didn’t feel it so did the right thing.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 16 Apr 2021, 17:53
by mickey1975
littlepug wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021, 17:35
mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021, 17:14
littlepug wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021, 16:50
Loved Wharton, got to fight on his undercard when he fought Thornbury, Calzaghe was also supposed to be on against Paul Wright but sprained his ankle and pulled out, I also boxed on the show that Henry was supposed to be headlining against Crawford Ashley for all the domestic light heavyweight titles, the fight got pulled (don’t know why) and Patrick Mullings v Brian Carr took top spot instead.
He retired.
Thought as much, I imagine he started training, didn’t feel it so did the right thing.
I can’t remember when it got pulled, I’ve got the posters and programme! It was building in Leeds for years, they were only a few hundred meters apart as amateurs. Henry wasn’t really a light heavy. I’m glad it didn’t happen.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 16 Apr 2021, 18:00
by littlepug
mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021, 17:53
littlepug wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021, 17:35
Thought as much, I imagine he started training, didn’t feel it so did the right thing.
I can’t remember when it got pulled, I’ve got the posters and programme! It was building in Leeds for years, they were only a few hundred meters apart as amateurs. Henry wasn’t really a light heavy. I’m glad it didn’t happen.
Yeah Henry would’ve been the smaller man for sure, I’ve seen the poster they had made up with half of each fighters face on it, it’s interesting to see the posters of fights that ultimately didn’t happen.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 16 Apr 2021, 18:30
by Roco
With all this talk about Wharton I decided to watch the sportsnight highlights of his fight with Gent again. I haven't seen it since I watched it originally and it brought back great memories.
Wonderful to hear proper balanced commentry from Harry.
Amazing that the fight ended in a draw with Gent being down in 3 different rounds. What a scrap though.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 16 Apr 2021, 19:03
by mickey1975
Roco wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021, 18:30
With all this talk about Wharton I decided to watch the sportsnight highlights of his fight with Gent again. I haven't seen it since I watched it originally and it brought back great memories.
Wonderful to hear proper balanced commentry from Harry.
Amazing that the fight ended in a draw with Gent being down in 3 different rounds. What a scrap though.
It was a fair result.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 16 Apr 2021, 19:06
by coghaugen11
littlepug wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021, 16:50
Loved Wharton, got to fight on his undercard when he fought Thornbury, Calzaghe was also supposed to be on against Paul Wright but sprained his ankle and pulled out, I also boxed on the show that Henry was supposed to be headlining against Crawford Ashley for all the domestic light heavyweight titles, the fight got pulled (don’t know why) and Patrick Mullings v Brian Carr took top spot instead.
Calzaghe was always pulling out of fights, even under Duff. A nightmare.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 16 Apr 2021, 19:40
by mickey1975
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021, 19:06
littlepug wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021, 16:50
Loved Wharton, got to fight on his undercard when he fought Thornbury, Calzaghe was also supposed to be on against Paul Wright but sprained his ankle and pulled out, I also boxed on the show that Henry was supposed to be headlining against Crawford Ashley for all the domestic light heavyweight titles, the fight got pulled (don’t know why) and Patrick Mullings v Brian Carr took top spot instead.
Calzaghe was always pulling out of fights, even under Duff. A nightmare.
He turned up in Sheffield. Light work, though.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 16 Apr 2021, 21:21
by coghaugen11
You’re very strange.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 02:31
by high tower 1
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021, 19:06
littlepug wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021, 16:50
Loved Wharton, got to fight on his undercard when he fought Thornbury, Calzaghe was also supposed to be on against Paul Wright but sprained his ankle and pulled out, I also boxed on the show that Henry was supposed to be headlining against Crawford Ashley for all the domestic light heavyweight titles, the fight got pulled (don’t know why) and Patrick Mullings v Brian Carr took top spot instead.
Calzaghe was always pulling out of fights, even under Duff. A nightmare.
He pulled out against Magee on the day of the fight. Proper pudendum move.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 05:08
by MasterG
Here is Henry when I bumped into him a couple of summers back.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 06:46
by coghaugen11
high tower 1 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2021, 02:31
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021, 19:06
littlepug wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021, 16:50
Loved Wharton, got to fight on his undercard when he fought Thornbury, Calzaghe was also supposed to be on against Paul Wright but sprained his ankle and pulled out, I also boxed on the show that Henry was supposed to be headlining against Crawford Ashley for all the domestic light heavyweight titles, the fight got pulled (don’t know why) and Patrick Mullings v Brian Carr took top spot instead.
Calzaghe was always pulling out of fights, even under Duff. A nightmare.
He pulled out against Magee on the day of the fight. Proper pudendum move.
He wouldn’t of survived in previous decades. No chance. Pulling out all the time you’d be dropped by all promoters and all networks. Even today or even then, Warren was incredibly patient with him. You have to say he’s overrated, for his behaviour. He wouldn’t of lasted that long under most circumstances, he’d of been dropped and gone off the rails - or if he fought better guys earlier he’d of been too wild and dropped in the ring again and again.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 06:47
by coghaugen11
He’s lucky Reid wasn’t a huge puncher and Eubank was so unprepared with cortisol in his knees.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 06:59
by mickey1975
Ridiculous comments! He’s easily the number one super middle from these shores. Only Froch comes close. He went abroad to fight legends, not crappy 4 rounders. I think Eubank was fortunate he didn’t get a more experienced Joe, the Lacy version, or he probably wouldn’t have seen it out. But, fair play to Chris, he took his beating, obviously for the cash but the fans didn’t know he was broke then.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 07:15
by Steveh583
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2021, 06:47
He’s lucky Reid wasn’t a huge puncher and Eubank was so unprepared with cortisol in his knees.
someones missed his meds
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 07:23
by coghaugen11
The trolls are out in force I see. Making zero sense as usual.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 07:23
by coghaugen11
Confused.com.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 07:24
by coghaugen11
116-113 for Robin I score Reid-Calzaghe every time I watch it.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 07:26
by coghaugen11
115-113 I scored Hopkins-Calzaghe the other night, for 43 year old Hopkins. fornicating 43!
Huge Joe fan here. But also, umm, honest.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 07:31
by coghaugen11
Do you have any idea how many times he pulled out of fights? And how that won’t be tolerated by anyone other than Warren at that time due to contracts? I know of 9. There were more under Duff. Some last minute. That’s disgraceful. THAT is ridiculous, and that’s the truth. Legendary fighters don’t get whitewashed Flat by Kabary Salem. Johnny Nelson talks about always needing to be ready to save a card at the last minute for Calzaghe pulling out, and many times he did.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 07:56
by coghaugen11
MasterG wrote: ↑17 Apr 2021, 05:08
Here is Henry when I bumped into him a couple of summers back.
You have to pity Wharton having weirdos from the internet hanging around him (not you, someone else).
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 08:08
by polecateddy
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2021, 07:31
Do you have any idea how many times he pulled out of fights? And how that won’t be tolerated by anyone other than Warren at that time due to contracts? I know of 9. There were more under Duff. Some last minute. That’s
disgraceful. THAT is ridiculous, and that’s the truth. Legendary fighters don’t get whitewashed Flat by Kabary Salem. Johnny Nelson talks about always needing to be ready to save a card at the last minute for Calzaghe pulling out, and many times he did.
You seem to be suggesting that it was a psychological thing with Calzaghe, but the truth is he had chronically bad hands. It was a bit of a miracle he came through his final fights and finished as he did. I don’t think he can even make a fist with one of his hands now.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 08:15
by coghaugen11
polecateddy wrote: ↑17 Apr 2021, 08:08
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2021, 07:31
Do you have any idea how many times he pulled out of fights? And how that won’t be tolerated by anyone other than Warren at that time due to contracts? I know of 9. There were more under Duff. Some last minute. That’s
disgraceful. THAT is ridiculous, and that’s the truth. Legendary fighters don’t get whitewashed Flat by Kabary Salem. Johnny Nelson talks about always needing to be ready to save a card at the last minute for Calzaghe pulling out, and many times he did.
You seem to be suggesting that it was a psychological thing with Calzaghe, but the truth is he had chronically bad hands. It was a bit of a miracle he came through his final fights and finished as he did. I don’t think he can even make a fist with one of his hands now.
Someone should’ve told him to get out the game and stop wasting people’s time then.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 08:25
by mickey1975
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2021, 07:56
MasterG wrote: ↑17 Apr 2021, 05:08
Here is Henry when I bumped into him a couple of summers back.
You have to pity Wharton having weirdos from the internet hanging around him (not you, someone else).
Same guy who was ‘hanging around’ years before the internet was invented and he was in the schoolboys?
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 08:29
by mickey1975
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2021, 08:15
polecateddy wrote: ↑17 Apr 2021, 08:08
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2021, 07:31
Do you have any idea how many times he pulled out of fights? And how that won’t be tolerated by anyone other than Warren at that time due to contracts? I know of 9. There were more under Duff. Some last minute. That’s
disgraceful. THAT is ridiculous, and that’s the truth. Legendary fighters don’t get whitewashed Flat by Kabary Salem. Johnny Nelson talks about always needing to be ready to save a card at the last minute for Calzaghe pulling out, and many times he did.
You seem to be suggesting that it was a psychological thing with Calzaghe, but the truth is he had chronically bad hands. It was a bit of a miracle he came through his final fights and finished as he did. I don’t think he can even make a fist with one of his hands now.
Someone should’ve told him to get out the game and stop wasting people’s time then.
That would have been good advice! At the very best it would have saved Eubank a good hiding! I suggest you look up Hopkins record post Calzaghe.
Re: Remembering what a great prospect Henry Wharton was
Posted: 17 Apr 2021, 08:35
by coghaugen11
mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2021, 08:29
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2021, 08:15
polecateddy wrote: ↑17 Apr 2021, 08:08
You seem to be suggesting that it was a psychological thing with Calzaghe, but the truth is he had chronically bad hands. It was a bit of a miracle he came through his final fights and finished as he did. I don’t think he can even make a fist with one of his hands now.
Someone should’ve told him to get out the game and stop wasting people’s time then.
That would have been good advice! At the very best it would have saved Eubank a good hiding! I suggest you look up Hopkins record post Calzaghe.
He made Jean Pascal look like a raw amateur. At about 46.