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Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 16 Sep 2021, 11:25
by maverick23
peter barlow wrote: 16 Sep 2021, 11:20
maverick23 wrote: 16 Sep 2021, 10:55 I really hope this and Triller are a failure after last weekend’s joke fest. I’d be really interested to see how well this performs.

There was an interview in last week’s Boxing News with Ryan Kavanagh - he gave the impression that he’s simply in it for the money.
Supposedly it's up against NFL and will tank as it's a Monday night.

I don't think Triller is sustainable and they damaged themselves last weekend big time. Tough going in a sport governed by sanctioning bodies like the WBA and the WBC, to get such bad PR.
I saw Peter Khan, who’s Kambosos’ manager, resigned his position of head of boxing at Triller yesterday. No surprised after the weekend’s exploits.

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 16 Sep 2021, 11:53
by peter barlow
maverick23 wrote: 16 Sep 2021, 11:25
peter barlow wrote: 16 Sep 2021, 11:20
maverick23 wrote: 16 Sep 2021, 10:55 I really hope this and Triller are a failure after last weekend’s joke fest. I’d be really interested to see how well this performs.

There was an interview in last week’s Boxing News with Ryan Kavanagh - he gave the impression that he’s simply in it for the money.
Supposedly it's up against NFL and will tank as it's a Monday night.

I don't think Triller is sustainable and they damaged themselves last weekend big time. Tough going in a sport governed by sanctioning bodies like the WBA and the WBC, to get such bad PR.
I saw Peter Khan, who’s Kambosos’ manager, resigned his position of head of boxing at Triller yesterday. No surprised after the weekend’s exploits.
That suggests to me the end may be nigh for Triller, he was their main man in boxing

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 16 Sep 2021, 11:58
by maverick23
peter barlow wrote: 16 Sep 2021, 11:53
maverick23 wrote: 16 Sep 2021, 11:25
peter barlow wrote: 16 Sep 2021, 11:20

Supposedly it's up against NFL and will tank as it's a Monday night.

I don't think Triller is sustainable and they damaged themselves last weekend big time. Tough going in a sport governed by sanctioning bodies like the WBA and the WBC, to get such bad PR.
I saw Peter Khan, who’s Kambosos’ manager, resigned his position of head of boxing at Triller yesterday. No surprised after the weekend’s exploits.
That suggests to me the end may be nigh for Triller, he was their main man in boxing
Who knows. If the rumoured purses for last week’s show were correct then it would have needed several hundred thousand people to buy it for it to work. The one benefit they have compared to anyone else is that there’s no TV/promoter middle man taking a slice as they own Fite TV.

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 16 Sep 2021, 12:02
by Ruthless-RKO
maverick23 wrote: 16 Sep 2021, 11:25
peter barlow wrote: 16 Sep 2021, 11:20
maverick23 wrote: 16 Sep 2021, 10:55 I really hope this and Triller are a failure after last weekend’s joke fest. I’d be really interested to see how well this performs.

There was an interview in last week’s Boxing News with Ryan Kavanagh - he gave the impression that he’s simply in it for the money.
Supposedly it's up against NFL and will tank as it's a Monday night.

I don't think Triller is sustainable and they damaged themselves last weekend big time. Tough going in a sport governed by sanctioning bodies like the WBA and the WBC, to get such bad PR.
I saw Peter Khan, who’s Kambosos’ manager, resigned his position of head of boxing at Triller yesterday. No surprised after the weekend’s exploits.
According to Triller's press release, they're on good terms.

Khan wanted to do other things.. lol

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 20 Sep 2021, 16:41
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 20 Sep 2021, 16:53
by handsofstone
Just get Triller away to fck from boxing asap

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 20 Sep 2021, 17:00
by Ruthless-RKO
handsofstone wrote: 20 Sep 2021, 16:53 Just get Triller away to fck from boxing asap
Absolute joke.
They need to consider the event a flop and money loser either way they spin it.

They manage to put on the Belfort crap.. but with this. It’s dragging on. Inactivity at a young age for Lopez too.

The sooner this fight is up, hopefully no one takes Triller seriously.

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 20 Sep 2021, 17:17
by handsofstone
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 20 Sep 2021, 17:00
handsofstone wrote: 20 Sep 2021, 16:53 Just get Triller away to fck from boxing asap
Absolute joke.
They need to consider the event a flop and money loser either way they spin it.

They manage to put on the Belfort crap.. but with this. It’s dragging on. Inactivity at a young age for Lopez too.

The sooner this fight is up, hopefully no one takes Triller seriously.
Aye and the fella Ryan Kavanah who works for Triller was quoted today saying he hopes Holyfield fights again, not boxing people are they, their hemorrhaging money thankfully so I doubt they'll hang around

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 21 Sep 2021, 03:21
by Cent0089
Cannot believe we waited year for this :doh:

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 21 Sep 2021, 16:12
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 23 Sep 2021, 16:10
by Ruthless-RKO
What a joke!

Thought the IBF where getting involved too.

They need their sanction fees


Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 03:19
by Ruthless-RKO
Teofimo Lopez approves date, venue changes for title defense; challenger George Kambosos yet to approve moves

Teofimo Lopez has signed a contract to allow Triller to move his lightweight championship fight with George Kambosos from Monday, Oct. 4, at New York's Hulu Theater at MSG, to Saturday Oct. 16, at Brooklyn's Barclays Center, Triller's Ryan Kavanaugh and Teofimo Lopez Sr., the fighter's father and trainer, both told ESPN on Thursday.

Kambosos, who lives in Sydney, also must sign off on the date change and hasn't done so yet, sources tell ESPN. In fact, Kambosos (19-0, 10 KOs) was sleeping (due to the time difference) when Lopez sent over the contract and his team hasn't yet informed the 28-year-old contender that the champion has agreed to move the fight two weeks.

Triller, which won the rights to the fight at February's purse bid with a commitment of $6.018 million, is trying to avoid competing with ESPN's Monday Night Football game between the Las Vegas Raiders and Los Angeles Chargers.

If the event moves as planned, Triller will forfeit a $100,000 deposit with Madison Square Garden, sources said. MSG officials didn't respond to messages seeking comment.

"I want the best for my son and I think this is the big stage for him. Fighting Oct. 4 would have f------ killed us," Lopez Sr., said, referring to the rare move to stage a fight on a Monday night. "Everyone would have been laughing at us. I think this is the right thing to do.

"Money is not everything," he added. "The money will come. Exposure is more important than everything in the world right now."

Triller, which owns the popular rap-battle series, Verzuz, would pair the fight with a Verzuz event at Barclays Center, Kavanaugh said. It is unable to do so at Hulu Theater, he said, because of space constraints following a chaotic event last month with The Lox vs. Dipset. Hulu Theater's capacity is approximately 5,500; Barclays Center holds nearly 19,000.

Kavanaugh said he dealt directly with Lopez Sr. rather than the fighter's manager, David McWater. Lopez Sr. said he "made this power move" to ensure the fight proceeds and avoid another conflict that keeps his son out of the ring any longer.

Lopez (16-0, 12 KOs) hasn't fought since a career-best performance in October, a decision victory over pound-for-pound great Vasiliy Lomachenko to capture all four belts at 135 pounds. The 24-year-old Brooklyn native, who would enjoy a homecoming bout at Barclays Center, is ESPN's No. 1 lightweight and No. 5 pound-for-pound boxer.

"We've always been huge believers in Teofimo, we think he's one of the best of our time," Kavanaugh said. "It's unfortunate we had many bumps in the road. However, if it was easy, everyone would do it. Typically in our experience, the most challenging turns out to be the most rewarding.

"100% going forward on the 16th," he added. "We're very excited about pairing it with a Verzuz. A fight of this magnitude deserves the world stage, and that's what we're giving it."

Lopez is in the midst of a multiyear deal with Top Rank, which has an exclusive deal with ESPN. After failed negotiations between the boxer and his promoter, the rights to the fight headed to a purse bid. The fight was set for June 19 in Miami before Lopez tested positive for COVID days before the bout.

If the fight indeed moves to Oct. 16, it would be at least the fifth date change for the event.

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 03:24
by handsofstone
Kambosos needs to tell them to do one, these constant date changes help nobody no less the fighters

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 03:25
by margaret thatcher
im convinced triller is trolling boxing with this one, the whole arranging of this fight has been absurd

they put on stuff like holyfield-belfort etc and then make sure an actual high level fight doesnt happen

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 03:27
by NoScoutingReports
This has been a shambles from start to finish, Kambosos must be raging.

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 03:57
by Ruthless-RKO
margaret thatcher wrote: 24 Sep 2021, 03:25 im convinced triller is trolling boxing with this one, the whole arranging of this fight has been absurd

they put on stuff like holyfield-belfort etc and then make sure an actual high level fight doesnt happen
Yeh, they could have just bid $4m and still won..

Did they really think anyone would bud more than that?

It's not a big commercial fight..

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 03:59
by Ruthless-RKO
handsofstone wrote: 24 Sep 2021, 03:24 Kambosos needs to tell them to do one, these constant date changes help nobody no less the fighters
Biggest payday for him.. He would need this. He may never get this pay day again.

Some boxers have to wait a long time to get even $1m purse and some just about get that, then deductions from $1m, what you left with

If I am Kambosos, in this position, i'm taking this fight.

But it must be very frustrating.

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 04:47
by maverick23
I wonder if Triller are threatening cancelling the fight if Kambosos doesn’t move the date. They’ll lose their deposit but that’s it I think.

Complete shambles from start to finish.

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 04:50
by Ruthless-RKO
maverick23 wrote: 24 Sep 2021, 04:47 I wonder if Triller are threatening cancelling the fight if Kambosos doesn’t move the date. They’ll lose their deposit but that’s it I think.

Complete shambles from start to finish.
They should be black-listed and from purse bids

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 10:52
by handsofstone
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 24 Sep 2021, 03:59
handsofstone wrote: 24 Sep 2021, 03:24 Kambosos needs to tell them to do one, these constant date changes help nobody no less the fighters
Biggest payday for him.. He would need this. He may never get this pay day again.

Some boxers have to wait a long time to get even $1m purse and some just about get that, then deductions from $1m, what you left with

If I am Kambosos, in this position, i'm taking this fight.

But it must be very frustrating.
I was meaning regarding the date change

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 27 Sep 2021, 06:06
by Ruthless-RKO
Lopez vs Kambosos now officially listed for Oct. 16 in Brooklyn

The long-delayed Teofimo Lopez return against George Kambosos Jr once again has a new official date

Teofimo Lopez’s repeatedly-delayed return against mandatory challenger George Kambosos Jr appears to be fully set for Saturday, Oct. 16, the latest date for the troubled event from Triller Fight Club.

FITE TV are now officially listing the fight for that date, having previously had it set for Monday, Oct. 4, which Triller recently decided to change. The fight has also had dates on June 5 and June 19, and also proposed dates of Aug. 14 and Sept. 11 that didn’t work out.

Triller surprised everyone by winning the purse bid for the bout, paying much more than Matchroom Boxing or Top Rank offered back in February, and the fight has been a mess to actually get in the ring since then.

Right now, it appears it will finally happen, with Brooklyn’s Barclays Center booked for a true Lopez (16-0, 12 KO) homecoming as he defends his WBA, IBF, and WBO lightweight titles against IBF mandatory Kambosos (19-0, 10 KO), who will be a major underdog but does have some believers, including those who feel Lopez may not be taking this fight as seriously as he should.

The most recent update had been that Lopez’s team had signed off on moving the fight back another 12 days, while Triller were waiting for Kambosos’ side to do the same.

The undercard has already been announced and isn’t going to excite anyone, but with this move to the new date, Triller have also promised to pair the show with a big Verzuz rap battle event, which should help make up some money already lost, because those have actually found a legitimate audience and have taken off big on social media.

As for boxing competition it faces, DAZN will have Mikey Garcia returning against Sandor Martin that evening, which isn’t likely to cut into potential buys in any difference-making number. Among those who were going to buy Lopez-Kambosos in the first place, Garcia-Martin is not something that will likely change many minds.

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 27 Sep 2021, 22:49
by KiwiRider
6 times Triller have d*cked us around with this fight.
Pretty much only me wanting to see it anyway. Everyone else wants Loma II.
Triller shouldn't be permitted to bid anymore.

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 28 Sep 2021, 01:29
by adislav123
KiwiRider wrote: 27 Sep 2021, 22:49 6 times Triller have d*cked us around with this fight.
Pretty much only me wanting to see it anyway. Everyone else wants Loma II.
Triller shouldn't be permitted to bid anymore.
no interest in loma 2.

after a first half of absolutely not bothering doing anything, then coming out of that mummified state winning MAY IT BE 3 ROUNDS max if u judge output alone, still not landing anything of note AND THEN UTTERING YOU THINK U WON THE FIGHT. nah! :stop: :shame:

lopez doesn't need lomachenko anyways.

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 4 October 2021

Posted: 28 Sep 2021, 01:33
by adislav123
adislav123 wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 01:29
KiwiRider wrote: 27 Sep 2021, 22:49 6 times Triller have d*cked us around with this fight.
Pretty much only me wanting to see it anyway. Everyone else wants Loma II.
Triller shouldn't be permitted to bid anymore.
no interest in loma 2.

after a first half of absolutely not bothering doing anything, then coming out of that mummified state winning MAY IT BE 3 ROUNDS max if u judge output alone, still not landing anything of note AND THEN UTTERING YOU THINK U WON THE FIGHT. nah! :stop: :shame:

lopez doesn't need lomachenko anyways.
p.s.: fornicate the triller! boxing is in a bad enuff state without that shitshow circus.

Re: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. | FITE - 16 October 2021

Posted: 28 Sep 2021, 05:37
by Ruthless-RKO
16 October :clap: