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Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 16:15 Hughie just got popular

outside of maybe Kabayel, Hughie loses to everyone on that list.

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 16:19

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 16:15 Hughie just got popular

outside of maybe Kabayel, Hughie loses to everyone on that list.

Not if the judges are doing their job !

I voted Helenius and Sanchez in, and I'd like them both above Chisora (H at 13, S at 14).
If Ortiz loses in a couple of days, I'd also vote him out of the top 15. He's 85 years old already.

CMCanavessi wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 16:53 I voted Helenius and Sanchez in, and I'd like them both above Chisora (H at 13, S at 14).

Cheers. I'm in agreement. Sanchez and Helenius beat prospects/upcomers, Chisora has lost 3 on then trot.

If Ortiz loses in a couple of days, I'd also vote him out of the top 15. He's 85 years old already.

We'll get to that next week hopefully.

skanksta wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 16:51

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 16:19

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 16:15 Hughie just got popular

outside of maybe Kabayel, Hughie loses to everyone on that list.

Not if the judges are doing their job !

Especially if the judges are doing their jobs.

Hughie beats that lot on a good night.

Will keep the poll open a few days.

I don't think there is anyone else deserving of a top 15 rank than the ones I mentioned.

GOSH - what a division..

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 17:21 Will keep the poll open a few days.

I don't think there is anyone else deserving of a top 15 rank than the ones I mentioned.

GOSH - what a division..

I voted for Helinius and Sanchez.
But I would vote any of them above Hughie

skanksta wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 17:08 Hughie beats that lot on a good night.

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 18:19

skanksta wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 17:08 Hughie beats that lot on a good night.

I do not understand all the love Hughie gets

tiny_acres wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 18:27

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 18:19

skanksta wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 17:08 Hughie beats that lot on a good night.

I do not understand all the love Hughie gets

It’s not love.
He’s very hard to love with his style, but there aren’t many better defensive boxers @ HW. He beat Parker clearly and he might not peak for another 5 years.

I will not mention “ManStrength” TM !

skanksta wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 18:41

tiny_acres wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 18:27

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 18:19

I do not understand all the love Hughie gets

It’s not love.
He’s very hard to love with his style, but there aren’t many better defensive boxers @ HW. He beat Parker clearly and he might not peak for another 5 years.

I will not mention “ManStrength” TM !

I had him losing to Parker

tiny_acres wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 18:45

skanksta wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 18:41

tiny_acres wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 18:27

I do not understand all the love Hughie gets

It’s not love.
He’s very hard to love with his style, but there aren’t many better defensive boxers @ HW. He beat Parker clearly and he might not peak for another 5 years.

I will not mention “ManStrength” TM !

I had him losing to Parker

Parker fight wasn't even close, except for Skansta and one blind judge.

skanksta wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 18:41

tiny_acres wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 18:27

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 18:19

I do not understand all the love Hughie gets

It’s not love.
He’s very hard to love with his style, but there aren’t many better defensive boxers @ HW. He beat Parker clearly and he might not peak for another 5 years.

I will not mention “ManStrength” TM !

yeah, i was waiting for Mags to chime in on that one.

Helenius and Sanchez seem the ones to be added in Hunter and Rivas’ exits.

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 16:19

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 16:15 Hughie just got popular

outside of maybe Kabayel, Hughie loses to everyone on that list.

Your kidding. Hughie beats em all. Only one with a chance is DDD, thats a 50-50.

gregregegg wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 20:35

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 16:19

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 16:15 Hughie just got popular

outside of maybe Kabayel, Hughie loses to everyone on that list.

Your kidding. Hughie beats em all. Only one with a chance is DDD, thats a 50-50.

Ba hahahahahahaha!!!!

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 20:48

gregregegg wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 20:35

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 16:19

outside of maybe Kabayel, Hughie loses to everyone on that list.

Your kidding. Hughie beats em all. Only one with a chance is DDD, thats a 50-50.

Ba hahahahahahaha!!!!

This is such a weird situation. because i feel we are wayyyy off in how we think all those match ups play out. I really rate the young pup hughie fury.

gregregegg wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 20:59

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 20:48

gregregegg wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 20:35
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Your kidding. Hughie beats em all. Only one with a chance is DDD, thats a 50-50.

Ba hahahahahahaha!!!!

This is such a weird situation. because i feel we are wayyyy off in how we think all those match ups play out. I really rate the young pup hughie fury.

I know you do. I just don't see anything special with him. Never did. Except his last name. He's still has time to make an impact, but I wouldn't put any money on it.

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 21:53

gregregegg wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 20:59

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 20:48
Ba hahahahahahaha!!!!

This is such a weird situation. because i feel we are wayyyy off in how we think all those match ups play out. I really rate the young pup hughie fury.

I know you do. I just don't see anything special with him. Never did. Except his last name. He's still has time to make an impact, but I wouldn't put any money on it.

In Hughie's 3 loses. A total of 36 rounds. I gave him 2 rounds in each a total of 6 rounds out of 36.
He has not once beat a contender or even cane close

big rob and frank the tank of the guys on that list for me.................so basically i agree with the voting so far

tiny_acres wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 22:25

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 21:53

gregregegg wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 20:59

This is such a weird situation. because i feel we are wayyyy off in how we think all those match ups play out. I really rate the young pup hughie fury.

I know you do. I just don't see anything special with him. Never did. Except his last name. He's still has time to make an impact, but I wouldn't put any money on it.

In Hughie's 3 loses. A total of 36 rounds. I gave him 2 rounds in each a total of 6 rounds out of 36.
He has not once beat a contender or even cane close

interesting, i think i had him winning more like 12 rounds out of those 36, so i guess that paints a very different story.

If i go off boxrec contributor scoring which is never great he won 7, had 9 swing rounds and lost 20. (where if less than 75% of people could agree on the winner of the round i called it a swing round). Thats not winning, but its being compeditive against pretty elite competition. and if you gave him all the swing round he could have being scored winner vs parker (not that i agree there. he was dominating untill cut vs pulev. and pre covid povetkin was just to much for him.

he got cut in the 2nd vs pulev

at best he won a quite opener prior to the cut, that's hardly domination. him not being able to cope with a cut is his own weakness anyway. i had him losing 118-111 to pulev and i think 116-112 to povetkin

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 23:14 he got cut in the 2nd vs pulev

at best he won a quite opener prior to the cut, that's hardly domination

I thought it was the third. but still, looked sharp for that 20 seconds.... Bit like parker was dominating whyte till the headclash, i stand by that one even more. my reality is special.