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Posted: **16 Jul 2022, 08:01**

Frostieballs wrote: ↑15 Jul 2022, 10:57
THEBUTCH wrote: ↑15 Jul 2022, 05:26 To those using the 'ism argument....of course women's boxing has a perfect right to exist, but don't force it upon the fans who'd rather watch something better.

It's woke Bullshit and it stinks to high heaven.
This card isn't woke though is it Butch? And it isn't being forced on anyone?

No not this particular one its just nearly every other one.

I hope its a sell out and a roaring success so as the sisters can have their own cards and that way there’ll be no need to ruin mens cards with 8 x 2 minutes of pillow fisted shite.

Posted: **17 Jul 2022, 06:45**

The problem is this card for the “Lumpy Jumpers” is better than some of the absolute sh*te the men are serving up.

Boxing is sh*te at the minute

Posted: **17 Jul 2022, 18:00**

Frostieballs, As chiggsy said, lots of others are !
Surely that hasn't escaped just about everyone's attention

Posted: **09 Aug 2022, 10:04**

Posted: **09 Aug 2022, 11:16**

olij999 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2022, 11:42
Frostieballs wrote: ↑05 Jul 2022, 11:19 If the fights are well matched and can stand alone (as they appear to be) it is an excellent idea. Why not?

Venue is ambitious. I would have gone York Hall, or maybe 3k-4k somewhere. But I am a cautious old dinosaur.
I agree - it is all about the matchmaking, particularly with the main event and chief support. These fights look good. Shields v Marshall is probably the best women's fight that can be made anywhere in the world at the moment, so credit to them for facing each other. And if the undercard is full of dull 40-36s and 60-54s, that is no different to plenty of all-male shows happening every week. But let's hope it is better than that.

Only downside with Marshall v Shields will be that is presumably over two-minute rounds, given the world title belts involved. This is no different to the situation where the longest track distance that women competed in at the 1948 and 1952 Olympics was 200 metres, and look how silly that looks in retrospect. One positive is that the BBBofC do allow three-minute rounds as standard for women as well as men (see https://bbbofc.com/build/documents/Rule ... s_2021.pdf at paras 3.7 and 22.10) but I don't think any women boxers are doing three minutes. All power to the first one who insists on it.

If Shields v Marshall was over 12 x 3s, it would be magnificent.

Bumping my previous post on this. It would be great if Shields and Marshall said "Never mind the titles and 10 x 2s, we want to do 12 x 3s, and British rules allow it, so let's go for that." That would be "game changed". Does anyone know if any female British fighter is considering boxing three-minute rounds, or has done so already?

Posted: **09 Aug 2022, 11:26**

The commonwealth were 3's I think.

Posted: **09 Aug 2022, 11:27**

mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 11:26 The commonwealth were 3's I think.

Posted: **09 Aug 2022, 11:28**

How come Marshall Shields didn't get a 5-star rating on boxrec?

Posted: **09 Aug 2022, 11:37**

olij999 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 11:16
olij999 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2022, 11:42
Frostieballs wrote: ↑05 Jul 2022, 11:19 If the fights are well matched and can stand alone (as they appear to be) it is an excellent idea. Why not?

Venue is ambitious. I would have gone York Hall, or maybe 3k-4k somewhere. But I am a cautious old dinosaur.
I agree - it is all about the matchmaking, particularly with the main event and chief support. These fights look good. Shields v Marshall is probably the best women's fight that can be made anywhere in the world at the moment, so credit to them for facing each other. And if the undercard is full of dull 40-36s and 60-54s, that is no different to plenty of all-male shows happening every week. But let's hope it is better than that.

Only downside with Marshall v Shields will be that is presumably over two-minute rounds, given the world title belts involved. This is no different to the situation where the longest track distance that women competed in at the 1948 and 1952 Olympics was 200 metres, and look how silly that looks in retrospect. One positive is that the BBBofC do allow three-minute rounds as standard for women as well as men (see https://bbbofc.com/build/documents/Rule ... s_2021.pdf at paras 3.7 and 22.10) but I don't think any women boxers are doing three minutes. All power to the first one who insists on it.

If Shields v Marshall was over 12 x 3s, it would be magnificent.
Bumping my previous post on this. It would be great if Shields and Marshall said "Never mind the titles and 10 x 2s, we want to do 12 x 3s, and British rules allow it, so let's go for that." That would be "game changed". Does anyone know if any female British fighter is considering boxing three-minute rounds, or has done so already?

Didn’t Nicola Adams box 3 minute rounds a couple of times under FW? Or did I dream it.

Posted: **09 Aug 2022, 11:56**

mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 11:26 The commonwealth were 3's I think.

Indeed - and all the better for it. Was thinking of pro fighters, though - sorry for not being clear.

Posted: **09 Aug 2022, 11:59**

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 11:37
olij999 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 11:16
olij999 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2022, 11:42

I agree - it is all about the matchmaking, particularly with the main event and chief support. These fights look good. Shields v Marshall is probably the best women's fight that can be made anywhere in the world at the moment, so credit to them for facing each other. And if the undercard is full of dull 40-36s and 60-54s, that is no different to plenty of all-male shows happening every week. But let's hope it is better than that.

Only downside with Marshall v Shields will be that is presumably over two-minute rounds, given the world title belts involved. This is no different to the situation where the longest track distance that women competed in at the 1948 and 1952 Olympics was 200 metres, and look how silly that looks in retrospect. One positive is that the BBBofC do allow three-minute rounds as standard for women as well as men (see https://bbbofc.com/build/documents/Rule ... s_2021.pdf at paras 3.7 and 22.10) but I don't think any women boxers are doing three minutes. All power to the first one who insists on it.

If Shields v Marshall was over 12 x 3s, it would be magnificent.
Bumping my previous post on this. It would be great if Shields and Marshall said "Never mind the titles and 10 x 2s, we want to do 12 x 3s, and British rules allow it, so let's go for that." That would be "game changed". Does anyone know if any female British fighter is considering boxing three-minute rounds, or has done so already?
Didn’t Nicola Adams box 3 minute rounds a couple of times under FW? Or did I dream it.

Think you may have dreamt it. Adams' fights were all twos, as were those of pioneers such as Jane Couch and (looking beyond the UK) Christy Martin.

Posted: **09 Aug 2022, 13:04**

olij999 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 11:59
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 11:37
olij999 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 11:16

Bumping my previous post on this. It would be great if Shields and Marshall said "Never mind the titles and 10 x 2s, we want to do 12 x 3s, and British rules allow it, so let's go for that." That would be "game changed". Does anyone know if any female British fighter is considering boxing three-minute rounds, or has done so already?
Didn’t Nicola Adams box 3 minute rounds a couple of times under FW? Or did I dream it.
Think you may have dreamt it. Adams' fights were all twos, as were those of pioneers such as Jane Couch and (looking beyond the UK) Christy Martin.

I just googled it and looks like I was correct. You owe me a tenner

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/39911010.amp

Posted: **09 Aug 2022, 13:07**

It has its place. Jonas v Taylor was pretty good but the quality varies. I don't think it would sell a massive venue but I would watch if the tickets were OK priced and the grog was reasonable price, so not 5 quid for a can of Carling lol

Posted: **09 Aug 2022, 14:34**

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 13:04
olij999 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 11:59
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 11:37

Didn’t Nicola Adams box 3 minute rounds a couple of times under FW? Or did I dream it.
Think you may have dreamt it. Adams' fights were all twos, as were those of pioneers such as Jane Couch and (looking beyond the UK) Christy Martin.
I just googled it and looks like I was correct. You owe me a tenner

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/39911010.amp

Was he 2nd pro fight wasn’t it.

Posted: **11 Aug 2022, 03:27**

Let's be honest, this fight night is simply a box ticking exercise and Sky wanting to be the first. I'll tune in for the main and co-main, but this isn't a stacked, quality night of boxing.

Taylor vs Serrano proved that women can headline and Shields vs Marshall is a headline event. However, there isn't enough depth and quality for all female boxing cards on major networks.

Posted: **11 Aug 2022, 04:03**

ambitious, for comparison, the average attendance for Manchester United womans games is 3,500 and a ticket costs less than a tenner, a season ticket £40, less than one ticket for a mans game.

Posted: **11 Aug 2022, 04:32**

I thought Price and Artingsall would never fight on the same card. That didn't last long did it?

I will be watching but thin they overplayed their hand putting it on the o2. This should have been Copperbox

Posted: **11 Aug 2022, 05:35**

Is the Jonas fight off? That looked a tough one on paper.

Posted: **11 Aug 2022, 06:03**

stujones wrote: ↑11 Aug 2022, 05:35 Is the Jonas fight off? That looked a tough one on paper.

She's on the liverpool card.

Posted: **11 Aug 2022, 06:26**

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2022, 06:03
stujones wrote: ↑11 Aug 2022, 05:35 Is the Jonas fight off? That looked a tough one on paper.
She's on the liverpool card.

sept 3rd

Posted: **11 Aug 2022, 13:45**

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 13:04
olij999 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 11:59
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 11:37

Didn’t Nicola Adams box 3 minute rounds a couple of times under FW? Or did I dream it.
Think you may have dreamt it. Adams' fights were all twos, as were those of pioneers such as Jane Couch and (looking beyond the UK) Christy Martin.
I just googled it and looks like I was correct. You owe me a tenner

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/39911010.amp

Ha! That's a great find.

I'll update her Boxrec record to put that on, as it's not there. Damn these so-called definitive sites...

Posted: **11 Aug 2022, 13:50**

Glass Joe wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 11:28 How come Marshall Shields didn't get a 5-star rating on boxrec?

Don't get me started please

Posted: **02 Sep 2022, 16:11**

Hows this sold? Will watch the main event. Womans boxing needs Marshall to win.

Posted: **02 Sep 2022, 16:51**

Glass Joe wrote: ↑02 Sep 2022, 16:11 Hows this sold? Will watch the main event. Womans boxing needs Marshall to win.

It’s sold poorly. Would be less than 5,000 sold tickets in there. They’ve given away loads of free tickets. They’ve offered free tickets for youngsters to many boxing clubs around London (and maybe wider too).

Posted: **02 Sep 2022, 19:13**

Funny. I'm going to this, with mates.

It's nothing to do with being 'woketards' or feeling the need to support women's boxing. It's just that the main event is a well matched fight and it should be fun.

I'm skimming through the thread and it's odd how bothered people are by this.

It's a boxing match at the end of the day.

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