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Joshua tried to make Wilder fight several times, Wilder himself admitted he turned it down for Fury rematch but by knocking out Helenius this means Joshua will duck him? I know Dev is a serial Warren brown noser but he doesn't have to talk shite to make a knob of himself

I wonder who the bookies would have as betting favourite with Wilder vs AJ.

I personally can't see AJ outboxing Wilder for 12 and not making a mistake.

jlh wrote: ↑16 Oct 2022, 04:25 I wonder who the bookies would have as betting favourite with Wilder vs AJ.

I personally can't see AJ outboxing Wilder for 12 and not making a mistake.

aj doesnt need to box a perfect 12 round fight, he can ko wilder too

A couple of points. Helenius is a bit chinny and it was a terrible idea to walk towards Wilder with his chin sky high and no defense......but, Jesus, Wilder can punch.

It does show how tough Fury is to have withstood that kind of power. I have been frustrated with Fury of late, messing around in negotiations etc and boxing Chisora again, but you have to give him massive credit for the Wilder wins. Gee wiz, what a puncher Wilder is. Absolutely lethal.

funny enough gerald washington's ko of helenius was just as good, dude does not like right hands

Joshua can KO Wilder for sure, but probably it's him, who will be KOed. Joshua is better technically, but he can't effectively fight in an aggressive fashion against those, who can fight back. Joshua remains opened and his punch resistence isn't that good as well as his recovery from punches. Wilder is significantly tougher.

Another one for AJ to cross off his list.

yes, wilder beating helenius has changed it all. not like wilder had blasted out a shitload of #20 fighters before.

in fact, i hear aj has crossed gerald washington off the list for his brutal ko of helly too

Wilder is an incredible puncher. There's hardly even a swing in that ko shot and he turned Hel's lights off.

Was a legit KO for sure

Helenius trying to be aggressive walked into it.

What’s more concerning is, Wilder can’t box to save his mums life.

I’ve seen him use his jab well, and he CAN use it.

But he’s just not good.

Being a HW and having power is what has gotten him through.

He landed punches on Helenius’ back at one point.

DrDuke wrote: ↑16 Oct 2022, 04:39 Joshua can KO Wilder for sure, but probably it's him, who will be KOed. Joshua is better technically, but he can't effectively fight in an aggressive fashion against those, who can fight back. Joshua remains opened and his punch resistence isn't that good as well as his recovery from punches. Wilder is significantly tougher.

You could be right. AJ puts them together better. But Wilder holds a shot better.

Still my favourite fantasy fight right now. 50-50.

this was rigged between the two of them who are old pals .
No way was that a legit punch .

Cyclops wrote: ↑16 Oct 2022, 00:37 Maybe it's cos I'm several sheets to the wind, but that KO looked iffy to me

nine bob iffy

Glass Joe wrote: ↑16 Oct 2022, 04:06

huge right hand that was basically a pawing gesture .
At least the previous Tomato cans got hit with something purposeful .

His power is unreal

Lol at speculations about a dive. It was a counter right to the target, which was coming right at it.

Surely Wilder can make cruiser if he really wanted to?

Imagine what he’d do to 200lb fighters.

Controversial wrote: ↑16 Oct 2022, 06:57 His power is unreal

He has power, no doubt, but Helenius is 38 and has already been knocked out by Duhaupas and Gerald Washington. Surely there has to be some context here.

Helenius is shite.

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑16 Oct 2022, 09:03 Helenius is shite.

He's not if your name is Adam Kownacki.

stevec@france wrote: ↑16 Oct 2022, 06:35 this was rigged between the two of them who are old pals .
No way was that a legit punch .

The punch was soft and almost as fake as the Malik Scott 'knockout'.

lookingaround87 wrote: ↑16 Oct 2022, 09:51

stevec@france wrote: ↑16 Oct 2022, 06:35 this was rigged between the two of them who are old pals .
No way was that a legit punch .

The punch was soft and almost as fake as the Malik Scott 'knockout'.

Nah, he clearly hits him clean in the chops and Helenius' face contorts in slow mo.

1103924 wrote: ↑16 Oct 2022, 09:22

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑16 Oct 2022, 09:03 Helenius is shite.

He's not if your name is Adam Kownacki.

Yeh, he’s had two good wins..

Kownacki was being groomed as another Wilder victim anyway.

Helenius didn’t read the script and ending up taking his payday.