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I wouldnt put it as bluntly as that Ruthless.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 09:40

Fvck the IBF.

Is it correct that they used to be corrupt?

Yep. Hence them enforcing their rules properly now.

maverick23 wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 09:47

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 09:40

Fvck the IBF.

Is it correct that they used to be corrupt?

Yep. Hence them enforcing their rules properly now.

What did they used to do?

Hrgovic will give Usyk a good fight.

But having watched his last fight he needs to get his head in the right space.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 09:49

maverick23 wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 09:47

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 09:40

Fvck the IBF.

Is it correct that they used to be corrupt?

Yep. Hence them enforcing their rules properly now.

What did they used to do?

According to The FBI, everything.

Usyk's Handlers Focused On Fury, Not Worried About IBF Order For Hrgovic

Oleksandr Usyk's handlers are not concerned with a recent mandatory order to face Filip Hrgovic.

Usyk, who holds the IBF, WBO, IBO and WBA heavyweight titles, is coming off back to back decision wins over Anthony Joshua.

He wants to pursue an undisputed fight with WBC champion Tyson Fury in early 2023.

But, the IBF recently issued an order for a mandatory fight between Usyk and Hrgovic - and Eddie Hearn, co-promoter for Hrgovic, has asked for an immediate purse bid.

Usyk's promoter is not worried about a Fury fight being derailed by mandatory obligations.

"At this stage I can anticipate that it will not influence the undisputed anyhow," Usyk's promoter, Alexander Krassyuk, told Sky Sports.

Fury is staying busy - with a voluntary defense scheduled for December 3, against Derek Chisora, at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium.

Usyk is hoping to get Fury in the ring in the first quarter of the coming year.

"We expect his next fight to be for the undisputed so most likely it will take place in the Middle East," Krassyuk revealed.

However, promoter Ben Shalom of BOXXER would love to help Usyk make his fights in the UK.

"We think his fights should be in the UK. We'd love to work with Oleksandr and that's something that we are speaking about," Shalom told Sky Sports.

"He wants to fight in the UK, he knows that the UK is probably a very strong market. We've seen him over here so many times, we'd love to have him over in the UK, really build his message and build his following and have him on the home side. Because he's always come over here, whether it was [against Tony] Bellew or [Derek] Chisora and he's always been the away fighter.

"I think British fans have really bought into Oleksandr Usyk and his personality over the past few years and everything that he's done in Ukraine is inspirational as well. I think the UK can really get behind that. He can be a star in the UK. He can be the home fighter for the first time and obviously he's a unified world champion at the moment and one of the biggest stars in the sport."

Tyson Fury hopes to fight Oleksandr Usyk next year

Negotiations between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk over an undisputed heavyweight fight are "getting there".

Fury, 34, defends his WBC title against fellow Briton Derek Chisora at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in London on Saturday.

But Fury's team are working behind the scenes to reach a deal with WBA, WBO and IBF champion Usyk.

Fury's co-promoter allegedly is confident an agreement can be reached, saying: "Usyk is the fight we want."

There were fears that Usyk's mandatory obligations could hold up the fight, but Warren said Fury hopes to fight Usyk as early as March, "providing there are no hold-ups".

One of the potential issues could be Usyk's mandatory obligations, with Croatia's Filip Hrgovic and Britain's Daniel Dubois vying to be the next challenger to Usyk's titles.

Fury's team are prepared to wait until the summer to fight Usyk.

With Deontay Wilder set to fight Andy Ruiz Jr in a WBC final eliminator, Warren says Fury could take a voluntary defence should talks with Usyk drag on.

Undefeated British heavyweight Joe Joyce is an option after his stunning win over former world champion Joseph Parker in September.

Who is Usyk's mandatory?

Matchroom promoter Eddie Hearn said recently that the IBF had officially made Hrgovic the mandatory challenger and ordered Usyk to negotiate terms.

Hearn suggested the IBF decision could delay a Fury-Usyk fight, but Warren said Hrgovic is not the next mandatory to Usyk.

Usyk's three belts mean he has three potential mandatory challengers to contend with, although the sanctioning bodies often co-operate with each other so one mandatory is called at a time.

Dubois, 25, holds the WBA 'Regular' heavyweight title and, although he is yet to be officially made the mandatory challenger, Warren said the WBA assured him that Dubois is next in line.

"I've got it writing from the WBA that Daniel is the next mandatory," Warren said.

The IBF declined to comment on Hrgovic's status as mandatory challenger or if an exemption could be provided to allow Usyk to fight Fury.

An undisputed or unified bout would often be prioritised and the champion could be granted an exemption or pay 'step aside' money to the mandatory challenger.

Should Fury fight in March, Warren says they will push for Usyk to defend his titles against Dubois rather than Hrgovic.

There has not been an undisputed heavyweight fight since November 1999 when Lennox Lewis defeated Evander Holyfield to win the WBA, WBC, and IBF heavyweight titles.

There has never been an undisputed heavyweight champion that has held all four major world titles as well as the lineal title.

Fury vacated the lineal title during his retirement and the Ring magazine title was awarded to Usyk after his win over Anthony Joshua in August.

Fury said, if and when he fights Usyk, it won't be for undisputed as he will not pay IBF their sanctioning fees.

So is Usyk wins, he's undisputed, if Fury wins, he wins them all apart from IBF.

He'll be the true number 1 of course but will not hold ALL the belts. Will become vacant,

Who gives a shit, really? Who are these organisations that anyone should care what they say? How many years can they go on naming whichever fighter they feel like that week as world champion before people just start ignoring them? They have no more legitimacy than anyone off the street. Less legitimacy, as they have been proven to make all their decisions for mercenary reasons.

Do any of them actually bring anything at all to the sport?

Tyson said he guarantees that if Usyk gets in the ring after the fight then he’s going to slap him.

That means he’ll definitely do it.

He's a man of his word is Tyson.

maverick23 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2022, 12:33 Tyson said he guarantees that if Usyk gets in the ring after the fight then he’s going to slap him.

That means he’ll definitely do it.

Hamed vs. Barrera was £11.05 back in 2001.

That in today's inflation is apparently £18.87.

Yeh we've had PPV's for over £19.95 for at least 6 years now.

Hamed was guaranteed a purse of $6 million while Barrera would earn $2 million.

It was PPV in US as well and cost $39.95 ($67.26 in today's money).. US shaft their customers. It's been $70 plus for a very long time.

This just tells us how much greed there is.

The Gratest wrote: ↑02 Dec 2022, 12:43 He's a man of his word is Tyson.

Indeed.

Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk is boxing’s World Cup and set for March, says Frank W

allegedly has hailed Tyson Fury’s undisputed fight with Oleksandr Usyk as boxing’s World Cup and is confident the fight will take place in March.

Fury’s dominant defeat of Derek Chisora on Saturday night paved the way for the springtime heavyweight clash with Usyk.

London is in the conversation to host it again but Warren has made no secret of the fact he will go wherever generates the most money, with Saudi Arabia believed to be the frontrunner.

Of the host venue, the promoter told Standard Sport: “You’ve got the World Cup and the Olympics, and they both go wherever there’s the most money. This is our World Cup.

“If Saudi put up the money, fantastic. It’s about where we can generate the most income. I think it’s a bit early to say at this stage but they’ve put their boxing as where they want to be and this is the biggest heavyweight fight out there for God knows how many years.

“It’s a historic fight and London is certainly in the conversation because Tyson loves the atmosphere of his fights in the UK.”

Warren held talks with Usyk’s camp over the course of the weekend and is 90 per cent confident a deal will be done to agree a fight next year.

“We’re looking to get this away by early March latest,” he said. “I’m a lot more confident with this one than the Anthony Joshua one but, until it’s signed, we’re not there.”

Should talks break down over the unification, Warren has lined up Joe Joyce as Fury’s next opponent. Joyce is provisionally scheduled to face the WBC heavyweight champion in the summer if the Usyk fight goes ahead and Fury is victorious.

... so does that mean its Wilder 4 or Manual Charr?

tonyevs wrote: ↑05 Dec 2022, 08:20 ... so does that mean its Wilder 4 or Manual Charr?

A bit like the stadium being half full?

Well in the last few days i've read ,, Fury is going to batter the midleweight ,, in Feb March ,, then belt Joyce ,, then go to Vegas , where he's still not allowed and fight a 4th with Wilder .

And before he does all this he's going to have surgery ,, ,, honestly people just do has i do ignore him , if he decides to show up and fight Usyk or Joyce watch it , if not stuff him

mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Dec 2022, 08:40

tonyevs wrote: ↑05 Dec 2022, 08:20 ... so does that mean its Wilder 4 or Manual Charr?

A bit like the stadium being half full?

I referring to opponents not ticket sales.

As I said before - when Mayweather v McGregor is the highest grossing boxing event .. it tells you that today it more about celebrity than anything else. Fury is very much a celebrity now and acts accordingly.

gp. wrote: ↑30 Nov 2022, 16:05 Who gives a shit, really? Who are these organisations that anyone should care what they say? How many years can they go on naming whichever fighter they feel like that week as world champion before people just start ignoring them? They have no more legitimacy than anyone off the street. Less legitimacy, as they have been proven to make all their decisions for mercenary reasons.

Do any of them actually bring anything at all to the sport?

Exactly

tonyevs wrote: ↑05 Dec 2022, 08:52

mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Dec 2022, 08:40

tonyevs wrote: ↑05 Dec 2022, 08:20 ... so does that mean its Wilder 4 or Manual Charr?

A bit like the stadium being half full?

I referring to opponents not ticket sales.

As I said before - when Mayweather v McGregor is the highest grossing boxing event .. it tells you that today it more about celebrity than anything else. Fury is very much a celebrity now and acts accordingly.

Tone, after winning every belt, except the Central Area, and being the most active of the big boys, including a mandatory, what would it take for you to regard Fury as a boxer?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Dec 2022, 11:05

I see this on another forum where I don’t have an account where people are actually saying this is Fury’s son. I know Tyson had Prince with him there but this little tosser says his name is Mikey and he also has an Irish Traveller accent so it’s not him.

First time I’ve actually seen Usyk look rattled though. It’s just some random traveller kid being a traveller kid, and he had 3 full grown Ukrainians wound up and non-plussed.

Don’t they have gypsies in the Ukraine?

Cyclops wrote: ↑05 Dec 2022, 13:01

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Dec 2022, 11:05

I see this on another forum where I don’t have an account where people are actually saying this is Fury’s son. I know Tyson had Prince with him there but this little tosser says his name is Mikey and he also has an Irish Traveller accent so it’s not him.

First time I’ve actually seen Usyk look rattled though. It’s just some random traveller kid being a traveller kid, and he had 3 full grown Ukrainians wound up and non-plussed.

Don’t they have gypsies in the Ukraine?

How fvkin rude though

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Dec 2022, 13:08

Cyclops wrote: ↑05 Dec 2022, 13:01

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Dec 2022, 11:05

I see this on another forum where I don’t have an account where people are actually saying this is Fury’s son. I know Tyson had Prince with him there but this little tosser says his name is Mikey and he also has an Irish Traveller accent so it’s not him.

First time I’ve actually seen Usyk look rattled though. It’s just some random traveller kid being a traveller kid, and he had 3 full grown Ukrainians wound up and non-plussed.

Don’t they have gypsies in the Ukraine?

How fvkin rude though

Oh yeah. Horrible little c*nt.