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Can't begrudge Ryder another title shot, deserved the win against Smith but this has a feeling of inevitably about it, Ryder as good now as he'll ever be but Canelo will hurt him, don't think he'll last 12,

Fight Week!!

Come on the Gorilla

I noticed a few posters have chosen the Ryder on points option.

Did you not get the memo? It is Canelo Alvarez and he is fighting in Mexico. :OhYes:

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑05 May 2023, 04:30 I noticed a few posters have chosen the Ryder on points option.

Did you not get the memo? It is Canelo Alvarez and he is fighting in Mexico.

Ryder would have to knock Canelo out twice to get the decision…

I haven't paid any attention to this fight as it's such a mismatch. But i seen it was in Mexico so it should be on at a reasonable time and the bolotniks fight might be interesting. So i had a quick glance and could somebody tell me how the fuk boxrec has ryder in the top 10 of any division never mind number 3?

chinarich wrote: ↑05 May 2023, 12:44

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑05 May 2023, 04:30 I noticed a few posters have chosen the Ryder on points option.

Did you not get the memo? It is Canelo Alvarez and he is fighting in Mexico. :OhYes:

Ryder would have to knock Canelo out twice to get the decision…

Not that far from the truth that.

I gave Smith and Saunders more chance here

watsupdoc87 wrote: ↑05 May 2023, 14:46 I haven't paid any attention to this fight as it's such a mismatch. But i seen it was in Mexico so it should be on at a reasonable time and the bolotniks fight might be interesting. So i had a quick glance and could somebody tell me how the fuk boxrec has ryder in the top 10 of any division never mind number 3?

Yep, he is a bit high up. But he has been active, and on a late career roll.
With Plant on two recent losses, Andrade fighting no one of real note seemingly happy to time out the tail end of his career, there really is a talent vacuum. It ain't hard to fill a top space.

I'd struggle to name 10 super middleweights who should be rated above Ryder tbh. In fact, I'd only put Canelo, Benavidez and Plant above him right now. Andrade has done fornicate all at the weight and Morrell has looked the part but still needs better opposition.

Yes, it's a fairly weak division at the moment, but this fight has been earned by Ryder - should have got the decision against Smith, and gone on to beat Jacobs and Parker. He's hardly Avni Yildirim mark II.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑05 May 2023, 18:16

watsupdoc87 wrote: ↑05 May 2023, 14:46 I haven't paid any attention to this fight as it's such a mismatch. But i seen it was in Mexico so it should be on at a reasonable time and the bolotniks fight might be interesting. So i had a quick glance and could somebody tell me how the fuk boxrec has ryder in the top 10 of any division never mind number 3?

Yep, he is a bit high up. But he has been active, and on a late career roll.
With Plant on two recent losses, Andrade fighting no one of real note seemingly happy to time out the tail end of his career, there really is a talent vacuum. It ain't hard to fill a top space.

Maybe i was being a bit harsh now ive had a sober look through the super middle rankings! Thats a very weak division

With it being in Mexico what times the main event at??

well mexico is right next to the states, it's not much different than big usa fights. only one hour difference between vegas and jalisco.

jalisco is 7 hours behind us, eg its 1:35 am there now and 835 am here now

main event should be around 3am here i'd think

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 May 2023, 03:35 well mexico is right next to the states, it's not much different than big usa fights. only one hour difference between vegas and jalisco.

jalisco is 7 hours behind us, eg its 1:35 am there now and 835 am here now

main event should be around 3am here i'd think

Really. For some reason i thought the Mexican cards were on considerably earlier than US

Stats and Stakes

Saul Alvarez

Age: 32

Titles: Ring/WBC/WBA Super Middleweight (2020-Present, 3 Defenses); WBO Super Middleweight (2021-Present, 2 Defenses); Lineal/TBRB/IBF Super Middleweight (2021-Present, 1 Defense)

Previous Titles: WBC Super Welterweight (2011-13, 6 Defenses); Ring Jr. Middleweight (2013); WBC Middleweight (2015-16, 1 Defense); TBRB Middleweight (2015-17); WBO Jr. Middleweight (2016-17); Ring World Middleweight (2015-18, 2 Defenses); IBF Middleweight (2019); Lineal World Middleweight (2015-20, 4 Defenses); TBRB/Ring/WBC/WBA Middleweight (2018-Present, 1 Defense)

Height: 5’8
Weight: 167 ½ lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico
Record: 58-2-2, 39 KO
Record in Major Title Fights: 18-2-1, 10 KO (19-2-1, 11 KO including WBA sub-title fights)
Last Five Opponents: 133-3-1 (.974)

Notable Outcomes, TBRB and/or Ring Rated Foes: Ryan Rhodes TKO12; Josesito Lopez TKO5; Austin Trout UD12; Floyd Mayweather Jr. L12; Erislandy Lara SD12; Miguel Cotto UD12; Amir Khan KO6; Liam Smith KO9; Gennady Golovkin D12, MD12, UD12; Rocky Fielding TKO3; Daniel Jacobs UD12; Sergey Kovalev KO11; Callum Smith UD12; Billy Joe Saunders RTD8; Caleb Plant TKO11; Dmitry Bivol L12

Additional Current/Former Titlists Faced: Miguel Vazquez SD4, UD10; Carlos Baldomir KO6; Lovemore N’Dou UD12; Kermit Cintron TKO5; Shane Mosley UD12; Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. UD12

vs.

John Ryder

Age: 34
Title/Previous Titles: None
Height: 5’9
Weight: 168 lbs.
Stance: Southpaw
Hails from: London, England, United Kingdom
Record: 32-5, 18 KO, 1 KOBY
Rankings: #3 (BoxRec), #4 (ESPN), #5 (TBRB, Ring)
Record in Major Title Fights: 0-1 (1-1, 1 KO including interim title fights)
Last Five Opponents: 105-11-1 (.902)
Notable Outcomes, TBRB and/or Ring Rated Foes: Callum Smith L12; Daniel Jacobs SD12; Zach Parker RTD4
Additional Current/Former Titlists Faced: Billy Joe Saunders L12

Both look in great nick, especially Ryder

Cant see how he`s got a hope here though. He isnt a big puncher and Canelo`s chin is solid. No way he gets a decision over there.

Towel comes in for Ryder around 8 rounds or a body shot stops him

forcefraser wrote: ↑06 May 2023, 08:35 Both look in great nick, especially Ryder

Cant see how he`s got a hope here though. He isnt a big puncher and Canelo`s chin is solid. No way he gets a decision over there.

Towel comes in for Ryder around 8 rounds or a body shot stops him

Fast car has done pretty well in pretty much getting his whole stable, between welter and light heavy, million plus purses to fight Canelo on DAZN

Coco wrote: ↑06 May 2023, 09:22

forcefraser wrote: ↑06 May 2023, 08:35 Both look in great nick, especially Ryder

Cant see how he`s got a hope here though. He isnt a big puncher and Canelo`s chin is solid. No way he gets a decision over there.

Towel comes in for Ryder around 8 rounds or a body shot stops him

Fast car has done pretty well in pretty much getting his whole stable, between welter and light heavy, million plus purses to fight Canelo on DAZN

This will be the 6 or 7th Brit that Canelo will fight.

What do you reckon Ryder is getting paid for this?

USD 1.5 mill? Hope he gets a wedge

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 May 2023, 03:35 well mexico is right next to the states, it's not much different than big usa fights. only one hour difference between vegas and jalisco.

jalisco is 7 hours behind us, eg its 1:35 am there now and 835 am here now

main event should be around 3am here i'd think

Ok thanks, il set my alarm for 2:45

aidenp25 wrote: ↑06 May 2023, 15:04

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 May 2023, 03:35 well mexico is right next to the states, it's not much different than big usa fights. only one hour difference between vegas and jalisco.

jalisco is 7 hours behind us, eg its 1:35 am there now and 835 am here now

main event should be around 3am here i'd think

Ok thanks, il set my alarm for 2:45

Good shout.

Main event is early than usual. 10pm ET.

forcefraser wrote: ↑06 May 2023, 08:35 Both look in great nick, especially Ryder

Cant see how he`s got a hope here though. He isnt a big puncher and Canelo`s chin is solid. No way he gets a decision over there.

Towel comes in for Ryder around 8 rounds or a body shot stops him

Ryder looks really up for it. No doubt he's a very tough man. Canelo has ridiculous power though. I see him catching Ryder who will try fighting on. Maybe he will get stopped standing after going down a few times. I can't see Canelo needing to go looking for his as I think Ryder throws caution to the wind and tries meeting him head on.

Chavez v Holligan for me, hopefully Ryder's corner will pull him out before he gets bashed up

Been any talk of elevation here? It’s 1500-1600 meters high, defiantly at a point where it starts to make a difference, not stupid like Mexico City (2200), but still they will feel it.