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TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑24 Jul 2023, 17:09 A simple "I have never stacked gloves and won't do it as is the rules and I expect the same from my opponents" would make this a non issue. At the moment it's unclear if he's been stacking. I'm sure it won't happen in this fight anyway thanks to publicity. I hope it hasnt happened and is a publicity stunt by Fulton but it screams of the pac needle excuses at the moment.

Possibly, but the Japanese don't really communicate in that kind of simple and direct manner. His answer is already to that effect, or at least as I interpreted it. They just expect you to read between the lines. Which still causes communication breakdown for me after a decade of living here. But he is communicating mainly with Japanese media and doesn't speak English (to my knowledge) so this is probably the best we are going to get.

Finkel wrote: ↑24 Jul 2023, 20:22

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑24 Jul 2023, 17:09 A simple "I have never stacked gloves and won't do it as is the rules and I expect the same from my opponents" would make this a non issue. At the moment it's unclear if he's been stacking. I'm sure it won't happen in this fight anyway thanks to publicity. I hope it hasnt happened and is a publicity stunt by Fulton but it screams of the pac needle excuses at the moment.

Possibly, but the Japanese don't really communicate in that kind of simple and direct manner. His answer is already to that effect, or at least as I interpreted it. They just expect you to read between the lines. Which still causes communication breakdown for me after a decade of living here. But he is communicating mainly with Japanese media and doesn't speak English (to my knowledge) so this is probably the best we are going to get.

I don't buy that. I'm not tiptoeing around trying to understand nuances. Come out and say it directly. I've seen enough to say it appears suspect. Bradley mentioned the double stacking in the latest Top Rank video preview. It's similar to what Margarito got done for and what Kerman was attemping in Spain before Liam Smith took issue with it. I have to view Inoue as suspect now with all this coming out and them not even denying it. Showing monster power at those lower weights in his previous fights is now suspect. It would make sense if he was wearing stacked gloves. I don't care what the Japanese allow. You cannot be stacking your gloves in this day and age and expect to be taken seriously. Major hit to his legacy at the moment in my view.

fulton's team is daft if they only just figured out the rules about hand wrapping in japan. the way it's done in japan is the same was as nevada and many other places

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑24 Jul 2023, 20:40

Finkel wrote: ↑24 Jul 2023, 20:22

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑24 Jul 2023, 17:09 A simple "I have never stacked gloves and won't do it as is the rules and I expect the same from my opponents" would make this a non issue. At the moment it's unclear if he's been stacking. I'm sure it won't happen in this fight anyway thanks to publicity. I hope it hasnt happened and is a publicity stunt by Fulton but it screams of the pac needle excuses at the moment.

Possibly, but the Japanese don't really communicate in that kind of simple and direct manner. His answer is already to that effect, or at least as I interpreted it. They just expect you to read between the lines. Which still causes communication breakdown for me after a decade of living here. But he is communicating mainly with Japanese media and doesn't speak English (to my knowledge) so this is probably the best we are going to get.

I don't buy that. I'm not tiptoeing around trying to understand nuances. Come out and say it directly. I've seen enough to say it appears suspect. Bradley mentioned the double stacking in the latest Top Rank video preview. It's similar to what Margarito got done for and what Kerman was attemping in Spain before Liam Smith took issue with it. I have to view Inoue as suspect now with all this coming out and them not even denying it. Showing monster power at those lower weights in his previous fights is now suspect. It would make sense if he was wearing stacked gloves. I don't care what the Japanese allow. You cannot be stacking your gloves in this day and age and expect to be taken seriously. Major hit to his legacy at the moment in my view.

margarito's wraps had gypsum, basically his hands were coated in an illegal substance. it was a completely different issue. is there evidence that inoue is putting that in his wraps?

inoue has fought in Japan, the UK, California, and Vegas. All different rules on hand wraps. The result has been the same. fulton's team is naive and you're just being gullible for their moaning

It looks like he has already made up his mind on this one. Guilty 'til proven innocent...

wasnt leppy also one of the supporters of floppy glove gate ?

makes sense now, gotta twerk some arse for those pbc conspiracy theories

Yeah, well the American media are trying to go hard with this narrative. From Bradley repeating the word "cast" (cast => Margaritto => Inoue is using gypsum on his wraps) and talking about double and triple stacking. smh

Then you have media channels like Fight Hype throwing shade at Inoue throughout the week and deliberately mistitling an interview with Donaire's cutman to make it seems like Inoue is deliberately cheating to gain an advantage, when the video contents were the complete opposite.



It's basically carefully worded slander at this point.

Inoue is going to eat him up.

Date: Tuesday July 25, 2023
Location: Ariake Arena - Tokyo, Japan
TV/Stream: ESPN+ | Main Event on Kayo

Start Times
ESPN+: 4:30 am ET | 1:30 am PT | 6:30 pm AEST | 9 pm JST (Main Card)
Sky Sports: 9:30 am BST (Main Card)

Promoted by: Ohashi Promotions & Top Rank Inc.

Main Card

Unified WBC & WBO Super-Bantamweight Championship
Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue

WBO Featherweight Championship
Robeisy Ramirez vs. Satoshi Shimizu

8 Round Light-Flyweight Bout
Kanamu Sakama vs. Ryu Horikawa

8 Round Super-Bantamweight Bout
Yoshiki Takei vs. Ronnie Baldonado

Prelims Card

8 Round Super-Featherweight Bout
Chihiro Iwashita vs. Hiroyuki Takahara

8 Round Lightweight Bout
Taiga Imanaga vs. Hebi Marapu

6 Round Super-Flyweight Bout
Yuki Kajitani vs. Masato Shinoda

4 Round Featherweight Bout
Kenta Yamakawa vs. Ryosuke Nakamura

4 Round Minimumweight Bout
Takero Kitano vs. Kenta Kawakami

Do you guys post live round by round updates? :)

in a half-arsed way sometimes...

Cent0089 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2023, 04:17 Do you guys post live round by round updates? :)

Can do.

viewtopic.php?p=5923471#p5923471

The B&I section might be more active

Fight #1
Yoshiki Takei vs Ronnie Baldonado
8x3 Junior Featherweight

Takei gets a left hand in, Baldonado lands a right hand back but soon gets trapped on the ropes as Takei tees off on him. Fairly tepid first round, a little bit of action, but not lots.

Baldonado opened round two with a big right hand, starting at a higher pace. Takei walking him down but the right hand is threatening all the time. Big shots fly in from both boxers, it's a little messy at times, the pair coming together heavily. Baldonado backed into the corner constantly not allowing himself any room to manoeuvre. Baldonado countered well with some clean shots, but spent the entire round retreating.

A backhand to the body had a delayed effect on Baldonado, falling to the floor seconds later. Takei flicked a right jab upstairs and landed a left hook that rippled its way across the ribs, painfully. That's seven wins and seven KOs for the 27-year-old southpaw from Tokyo.

Fight #2
Kanamu Sakama vs Ryu Horikawa
8x3 Light Flyweight

Both boxers were sharp on their jabs and light on their feet in the first rounds. Sakama was coming forward while Horikawa was jabbing and moving.

Sakama landed some big backhands in the second, really finding his groove. Looking good on the backfoot too, when Horikawa tried to force him back momentarily.

The mouthpiece of Horikawa was dislodged in the third. Big bodyshot from Sakama but Horikawa took it well.

Horikawa just trying to keep Sakama at bay. Midway in the fourth, Sakama landed a swift, stinging backhand bodyshot. Horikawa keeping the fight at close range in the final minute, making it tricky for Sakama to work. Then Horikawa dances away and steps in to land a flurry before the bell. Sakama in control but Horikawa using all his ring experience here.

Sakama closing the space in round five, Horikawa comes forward at times to keep him off. Horikawa gets through with a straight right hand. Then Horikawa goes back on his jab, doubling up. Good left hand catches Horikawa out after they broke. Horikawa tries a overhand right, but Sakama catches it on his gloves completely. Then it's Horikawa's turn to catch Sakama out after a break. Sakama gets a nice body shot in on the klaxons. Horikawa just so sneaky on that backfoot but three consecutive uppercuts landed that round by Sakama.

Right hook to the body followed be left jab to the head from Sakama. It's a close contest, the heavier shots thudded in from Sakama, but Horikawa equally scoring. Sakama waiting too long to throw in that sixth stanza. He was closing the gap down, but when he had Horikawa backed into the ropes, he dodn't let his hands go quick enough and his opponent is able to throw his shots and escape.

They go toe to toe in the opening minute of the seventh. Strong jab lands from Sakama after an exchange. They continue to square off, really great back and forth action, the crowd are loving this! Sakama seems the more tired of the two, perhaps that's why he isn't throwing as much. Big right hand rocks Horikawa's head to the side, but takes it well. Really exciting round.

Quick Results

Kanamu Sakama TKO-8 Ryu Horikawa
Yoshiki Takei KO-3 Ronnie Baldonado (1:08)

Free legal Thai stream

You are a legend, Ruthless.

Fair play to both fighters taking this challenge on. Fulton for going to Japan against The Monster and for Inoue going up in weight to fight the very best in the division. The winner is destined for greatness.

Robeisy Ramirez vs Satoshi Shimizu
12x3 WBO Featherweight World Title

First round is a scouting mission for the patient champion, who let his hands go much more in round two.

By round four, Ramirez was so accurate and able to pick out big power shots in close. Shimizu's long levers not giving him the advantage in this fight they really should. Shimizu trapped on the ropes as Robeisy fires off punch after punch but the challenger escapes. A tall southpaw with height and reach advantages should be keeping this fight long, but Robeisy is firing off good work in close.

It's all over in the fifth round at 1:08 as 37-year-old Shimizu is stopped by the referee. Ramirez landed a crunching left uppercut to send the Japanese fighter to the canvas. Then a further barrage of potent left and right hooks went unanswered. Robeisy moved up to 13-1 with 8KO. Shimizu dropped to 11-2, 10KO.

The wait time is insane - how about just get on with the show.

Fk dude - stream dead. Ruthless I thought you said it was legal. LOL!

lazboy wrote: ↑25 Jul 2023, 07:29 Fk dude - stream dead. Ruthless I thought you said it was legal. LOL!

I thought that..

But realistically, it should be available for those in Thailand.

Looks like TR put a stop to that.

Inoue in complete control.

After seven I have it a complete shutout

Dominates, takes him out in 8. Monster is the best fighter in boxing