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Max De Luca
David Sutherland
Steve Weisfeld

Referee: Harvey Dock

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑20 Sep 2023, 04:27 Judges
Max De Luca
David Sutherland
Steve Weisfeld

Referee: Harvey Dock

Not bad choices.

Charlo is an American facing an opponent who is not American in Vegas.
He absolutely can get a decision.
Charlo won't get a gift decision but if the American wins 7 rounds in ring he'll get 7 on the cards too.

I think Charlo may win one or two early rounds but then will be walked down and punished. Even with his impressive accomplishments, I don’t believe Charlo is a great fighter. He is however very good. A very good fighter vs a great fighter in Canelo.

Don't start me on judges.

Frank Sanchez, Gabriel Gollaz, Oleksandr Gvozdyk join Canelo vs Charlo prelims

Terrell Gausha also sees action

Next week’s Canelo Alvarez vs Jermell Charlo show has a pretty robust undercard by current standards. Sadly, today’s release of the full bout sheet reveals that said depth doesn’t extend to the pre-PPV portion.

At the top sits Canelo training partner Frank Sanchez (22-0, 15 KOs), who fights his second straight joke of an opponent in Scott Alexander (17-5-2, 9 KOs). Alexander lasted less than 120 seconds against Zhilei Zhang two fights back, so while he’s a slightly warmer body than Daniel Martz, he’s yet another dud in Sanchez’s bafflingly bad post-Ajagba run.

Gabriel Gollaz Valenzuela (27-3-1, 16 KOs) also returns to action for his second straight Canelo card, having previously won a questionable and potentially corrupt decision over Stevie Spark. He faces what looks like an easier assignment in Colombia’s Yeis Gabriel (15-0, 10 KOs, who hasn’t fought in nearly two years after dropping a split decision to Alberto Palmetta.

Oleksandr Gvozdyk (19-1, 15 KOs), who stopped Ricards Bolotniks on Canelo-Ryder, takes a step backwards on the comeback trail against Brazil’s Isaac Rodrigues (28-4, 22 KO). Rodrigues is 38 and managed to take three cumulative rounds on the scorecards in a February loss to Richard Rivera.

Terrell Gausha (23-3-1, 12 KOs) also stays busy in a middleweight bout with KeAndre Leatherwood (23-8-1, 13 KOs), his second appearance since a surprisingly competitive loss to Tim Tszyu last year.

I get that they can’t all be winners, but NSAC needs to seriously consider axing Sanchez-Alexander at minimum. This goes beyond unappealing into the realm of appalling.

Press Release | Showtime To Stream Three-Fight Countdown Show

Top heavyweight Frank “The Cuban Flash” Sanchez will highlight the stacked three-fight Showtime PPV Countdown show as he takes on Scott Alexander in a 10-round matchup on Saturday, September 30 leading up to the Canelo Álvarez vs. Jermell Charlo Showtime PPV event taking place at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. Canelo Promotions will present the Premier Boxing Champions pay-per-view.

The lineup will also see former light heavyweight champion Oleksandr Gvozdyk battle Brazil’s Isaac Rodrigues in an eight-round duel, while 2012 U.S. Olympian Terrell Gausha faces KeAndrae Leatherwood in an eight-round middleweight bout. The live stream will begin at 5:30 p.m. ET/2:30 p.m. PT and be available on the SHOWTIME SPORTS YouTube channel and SHOWTIME Boxing® Facebook page.

The show will be hosted by award-winning MORNING KOMBAT live digital talk show hosts Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell.

These fights lead into a four-fight pay-per-view telecast beginning at 8 p.m. ET/5 p.m. PT and headlined by Undisputed Super Middleweight World Champion Canelo Álvarez defending his titles against Undisputed Junior Middleweight World Champion Jermell Charlo in a historic battle of reigning undisputed champions.

An amateur standout from his native Cuba, Sánchez (22-0, 15 KOs) now trains in California with renowned trainer of Canelo Álvarez, Eddy Reynoso. The 31-year-old caught the heavyweight division’s attention when he scored a career-best win in October 2021, dropping the previously unbeaten Efe Ajagba on his way to a unanimous decision victory. Most recently he blasted out Daniel Martz in one round in April. He will be opposed by the 34-year-old Alexander (17-5-2, 9 KOs), who most recently knocked out Jaime Solorio in August 2022. The Los Angeles-native has challenged many contenders throughout his career, including Zhilei Zhang, Carlos Negron and Travis Kauffman.

After earning a bronze medal representing his native Ukraine at the 2012 Olympics, Gvozdyk (19-1, 15 KOs) turned pro in 2014, eventually defeating a slew of contenders to earn a light heavyweight title shot. He went on to become WBC champion with an 11th-round knockout of Adonis Stevenson and defended the title in 2019 by stopping Doudou Ngumbu in round five. Since losing the belt in a unification match against Artur Beterbiev, Gvozdyk has picked up a pair of victories in 2023, besting Josue Obando in February and Ricards Bolotniks in May. He will take on Mocajuba, Para, Brazil’s Rodrigues (28-4, 22 KOs), who most recently dropped a decision to Richard Rivera in February. Rodrigues has also challenged contender Demond Nicholson in a career that dates back to 2005.

A member of the 2012 U.S. Olympic team, Gausha (23-3-1, 12 KOs) was born in Cleveland, Ohio but now fights out of Encino, Calif. The 36-year-old has faced tough competition throughout his career, having fought former champion Austin Trout to a draw in 2019 in addition to decision losses against former champion Erislandy Lara, top contender Erickson Lubin and interim champion Tim Tszyu. Gausha has shown impressive power in recent years, blasting out Jamontay Clark in two rounds in 2021 and most recently stopping Brandyn Lynch in round nine in March. He faces Tuscaloosa, Alabama’s Leatherwood (23-8-1, 13 KOs), who has faced numerous former champions and contenders including Caleb Truax, Andy Lee, Hugo Centeno Jr., John Jackson, Steve Rolls and Christian Mbilli.

The non-televised undercard will see 140-pound contender Gabriel Valenzuela (27-3-1, 16 KOs) duel Yeis Gabriel Solano (15-2, 10 KOs) in an eight-round attraction, amateur sensation Curmel Moton in his pro debut taking on Ezequiel Flores (4-0, 3 KOs) in a six-round super featherweight fight, and super featherweight prospect Justin Viloria (3-0, 3 KOs) stepping in for a six-round match against Chicago’s Angel Barrera (4-2).

Rounding out the lineup is a pair of unbeaten prospects from Kazakhstan as Bek Nurmaganbet (10-0, 8 KOs) squares off against Abimbola Osundairo (5-0, 3 KOs) in a six-round super middleweight tilt, while middleweight Abilkhan Amankul (4-0, 4 KOs) faces Joeshon James (7-0-1, 4 KOs) for six rounds of action.

What about that non televised bouts? Undefeated guys fighting each other, should be interesting to watch

Fight Week!

Perseus wrote: ↑20 Sep 2023, 13:54
Not bad choices.

Charlo is an American facing an opponent who is not American in Vegas.
He absolutely can get a decision.
Charlo won't get a gift decision but if the American wins 7 rounds in ring he'll get 7 on the cards too.

When it comes to judging, Canelo is as American as it get's.

Getting closer to the fight, they're not exactly in the public eye and everyone's going on about it.
All Access was ok though.
They put $ into mell all around by the looks of it.
Let's see if it pays off.

Winner will get the "Puebla Belt"



"For the development of the belt, two of the most important craft techniques in the State of Puebla were used, talavera and embroidery. The embroidery was done by Matilde Juárez, a craftswoman and artist from Puebla who shows through embroidery and applied colors the most representative patterns of different locations in the state of Puebla," the WBC explained in a statement.

"The talavera frames the belt plate with a traditional, exquisite and ornate Puebla design. The feathering, which is representative of Puebla, in this edition, was done and wonderfully accomplished in black, with the intention of depicting and highlighting an ancient design, managing to transmit and preserve and glorify the Puebla tradition. Significantly, the Cathedral of Puebla, which is one of the most representative monuments in this beautiful State, is prominently portrayed, supported by two soaring angels, who are a focal point plus part of the history of Angelopolis."

i just want a reasonably fair decision. scorecards at least remotely reflecting the actual in ring action, plus an actually impartial, professional ref.

is that too much to ask for? most probably.

adislav123 wrote: ↑26 Sep 2023, 17:23 i just want a reasonably fair decision. scorecards at least remotely reflecting the actual in ring action, plus an actually impartial, professional ref.

is that too much to ask for? most probably.

Until boxing's movers and shakers are ready to throw Canelo under the bus, yes it is too much to ask for.

When it finally happens, and it won't be now, Canelo won't be surprised the way GGG was.

He understands how this game works, and he will exit at the right time.

Besides, there's all kinds of boxing spin-offs to come back for if he ever fancies a bit of loose change in the future.

Thomastearns wrote: ↑27 Sep 2023, 13:03

adislav123 wrote: ↑26 Sep 2023, 17:23 i just want a reasonably fair decision. scorecards at least remotely reflecting the actual in ring action, plus an actually impartial, professional ref.

is that too much to ask for? most probably.

Until boxing's movers and shakers are ready to throw Canelo under the bus, yes it is too much to ask for.

When it finally happens, and it won't be now, Canelo won't be surprised the way GGG was.

He understands how this game works, and he will exit at the right time.

Besides, there's all kinds of boxing spin-offs to come back for if he ever fancies a bit of loose change in the future.

ggg knew very well what time it was.

he took the blatant back 2 back buttfukk like the absolute professional that he is. admirably so.

- Excessive Greed has done in so many persons of every persuasion, so here we have Canelo signed to a fight deal with the Vampiric infrared bunkered Al Haymon.

Canelo already has his own private passenger jet and a yacht though not as massive as the fleet of megayachts that Bezos commands. Then the plethora of supercars and various off road vehicles tearing up the Mexican landscape with Carlos Slim managing his riches, he makes Marv's proverbial silk sheets dilemma look rather flimsy.

The major difference between the two who've been fighting since 2005 and 2007 is that Charlo has been a protected celebrity fighter along with his idiot twin whose combined records couldn't match Canelo's quality of opposition. We saw Haymon throwing Manny under the bus after his brilliant Thurman win by matching him with Ugh, a bigger, stronger stinker.

At best Charlo is a poor man's Danny Jacobs in the size and boxing attributes, but we know that runner/stinkers are often favored over fighters, and if Canelo has a physical weakness, it's a bum knee that has seen him in on crutches in the past and even a knee brace in the ring. Remember how Lady Lara ran and stunk against Canelo with all the Canelo haters claiming the Lady won? Even knocking Trout down in an open scoring bout where the fans could see the scoring with Trout down on the cards still running/stinking, yup, in fan world runner/stinkers are supposed to rule.

I have never watched more than a single Charlo bout, but as celebrity twins currently in downfall over that celebrity, here we have a golden opportunity for "them." I can't and don't even bother to tell them apart, so can they step up to a BIG fight?

I'll still take Canelo

BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: ↑29 Sep 2023, 11:18 - Excessive Greed has done in so many persons of every persuasion, so here we have Canelo signed to a fight deal with the Vampiric infrared bunkered Al Haymon.

Canelo already has his own private passenger jet and a yacht though not as massive as the fleet of megayachts that Bezos commands. Then the plethora of supercars and various off road vehicles tearing up the Mexican landscape with Carlos Slim managing his riches, he makes Marv's proverbial silk sheets dilemma look rather flimsy.

The major difference between the two who've been fighting since 2005 and 2007 is that Charlo has been a protected celebrity fighter along with his idiot twin whose combined records couldn't match Canelo's quality of opposition. We saw Haymon throwing Manny under the bus after his brilliant Thurman win by matching him with Ugh, a bigger, stronger stinker.

At best Charlo is a poor man's Danny Jacobs in the size and boxing attributes, but we know that runner/stinkers are often favored over fighters, and if Canelo has a physical weakness, it's a bum knee that has seen him in on crutches in the past and even a knee brace in the ring. Remember how Lady Lara ran and stunk against Canelo with all the Canelo haters claiming the Lady won? Even knocking Trout down in an open scoring bout where the fans could see the scoring with Trout down on the cards still running/stinking, yup, in fan world runner/stinkers are supposed to rule.

I have never watched more than a single Charlo bout, but as celebrity twins currently in downfall over that celebrity, here we have a golden opportunity for "them." I can't and don't even bother to tell them apart, so can they step up to a BIG fight?

I'll still take Canelo

I like the Runner/Stinker analogy.
Great way to put it.
Obviously, "The Stinker" attribute would be "Excessive Clinching".
"Canelo" Better wear That Knee Brace, just to be on the safe side.

Perseus wrote: ↑20 Sep 2023, 13:54

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑20 Sep 2023, 04:27 Judges
Max De Luca
David Sutherland
Steve Weisfeld

Referee: Harvey Dock

Not bad choices.

Charlo is an American facing an opponent who is not American in Vegas.
He absolutely can get a decision.
Charlo won't get a gift decision but if the American wins 7 rounds in ring he'll get 7 on the cards too.

You generally need to win about 9 rounds against Canelo to beat him. Although that didn't work for Golovkin.

Got to say Charlo looked good at the weight, whoever conditioned him to get to 167 did a good job.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Sep 2023, 15:33 You generally need to win about 9 rounds against Canelo to beat him. Although that didn't work for Golovkin.

I'm pretty sure they have agreed now to 10 rounds.
That's why GGG didn't get the decision and Bivol barely got it.

No pressure on Charlo - I expect this to be close. It's a better matchup than his brother despite being a division lower. Canelo needs to win of course, if he loses the end will be near. Strange considering he is 33 but he has so many miles on the clock. I would like to see him win then go into the Benavidez fight and I think that would be it for him.

Charlo has a chance though. He has been there and done it at the top of his division, first time he is in with a superstar will the occasion get to him?

Canelo is near the end regardless of result in this fight.
In three years he'll add his name to the list of boxers cashing out against an MMA fighter or Jake Paul.

Canelo said last night he reckons 3-5 years