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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 05:59
by polecateddy
Miller is 35 now and it’s probably 5 years since he actually looked like a force. A bit like Fury magically getting in shape by February, it’s a bit of a big (but not impossible) ask for him to find his form and fitness again.
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 06:05
by margaret thatcher
35's not too bad (younger than joyce and usyk), especially considering he had 4 years out with reduced punishment. im sure he's been doing his 'thing' well before we learned about the fight.
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 09:39
by JamesPhilips
Manchester Hitman wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 05:51
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 05:21
Will this bill be PPV or is it ‘free’ on TNT?
Mate, it’s going to be PPV - you must know that, unless your new to the sport
Lol no need to patronise. I mean of course it’s likely I just find it odd they announced it’s on TNT and not TNT Box Office.
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 09:43
by SeanBrennan
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 09:39
Manchester Hitman wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 05:51
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 05:21
Will this bill be PPV or is it ‘free’ on TNT?
Mate, it’s going to be PPV - you must know that, unless your new to the sport
Lol no need to patronise. I mean of course it’s likely I just find it odd they announced it’s on TNT and not TNT Box Office.
I did not know it was PPV, I thought it might not be in light of the Saudis bankrolling it.
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 10:07
by JamesPhilips
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 09:43
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 09:39
Manchester Hitman wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 05:51
Mate, it’s going to be PPV - you must know that, unless your new to the sport
Lol no need to patronise. I mean of course it’s likely I just find it odd they announced it’s on TNT and not TNT Box Office.
I did not know it was PPV, I thought it might not be in light of the Saudis bankrolling it.
Exactly. Also I understand the TV deal has not been announced. At this point it’s rumoured TNT for the UK and DAZN PPV globally
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 10:19
by Ruthless-RKO
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 10:07
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 09:43
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 09:39
Lol no need to patronise. I mean of course it’s likely I just find it odd they announced it’s on TNT and not TNT Box Office.
I did not know it was PPV, I thought it might not be in light of the Saudis bankrolling it.
Exactly. Also I understand the TV deal has not been announced. At this point it’s rumoured TNT for the UK and DAZN PPV globally
Any event that the Saudi’s bankroll is usually always PPV.
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 10:23
by JamesPhilips
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 10:19
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 10:07
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 09:43
I did not know it was PPV, I thought it might not be in light of the Saudis bankrolling it.
Exactly. Also I understand the TV deal has not been announced. At this point it’s rumoured TNT for the UK and DAZN PPV globally
Any event that the Saudi’s bankroll is usually always PPV.
Yes but until announced we can’t be sure.
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 10:25
by Ruthless-RKO
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 10:23
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 10:19
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 10:07
Exactly. Also I understand the TV deal has not been announced. At this point it’s rumoured TNT for the UK and DAZN PPV globally
Any event that the Saudi’s bankroll is usually always PPV.
Yes but until announced we can’t be sure.
100% I agree.
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 10:54
by si7dog7
If, and I mean if, Miller backs up his press conference banter and does a job on DD. Does he leapfrog Deontay to take on the cash cow AJ? (That’s if they all win, of course)
Something staged about that prezzza. As it always is.
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 11:08
by The Gratest
I don't think they'd let him get the chance. He had it but fked it up.
He's also up against a Fwank fighter, so probably not in the Hearn side of the deal? Although AJ did say to Salita during his face off with Wallin that he was going to take out all his fighters..Franklin, then Wallin...which just leaves Miller.
He's a turd of a man anyway, but champion to some now because of the AJ aspect.
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 11:11
by SeanBrennan
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 10:07
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 09:43
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 09:39
Lol no need to patronise. I mean of course it’s likely I just find it odd they announced it’s on TNT and not TNT Box Office.
I did not know it was PPV, I thought it might not be in light of the Saudis bankrolling it.
Exactly. Also I understand the TV deal has not been announced. At this point it’s rumoured TNT for the UK and DAZN PPV globally
I'll end up paying for it (and moaning) (and likely falling asleep before main two fights as well)
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 11:23
by tonyevs
Its a very big show that I will definitely be buying .. but I shall wait until the last few days to ensure we don`t get the drop outs.
If all the proposed fights go ahead, I see things getting proper stirred up in the heavyweight division. Just a shame Zhang didn`t make the show too.
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 12:32
by JamesPhilips
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 11:11
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 10:07
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 09:43
I did not know it was PPV, I thought it might not be in light of the Saudis bankrolling it.
Exactly. Also I understand the TV deal has not been announced. At this point it’s rumoured TNT for the UK and DAZN PPV globally
I'll end up paying for it (and moaning) (and likely falling asleep before main two fights as well)
Lol
yeah I mean I wonder what the pricing will be? Will they justify a new high?
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 12:41
by SeanBrennan
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 12:32
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 11:11
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 10:07
Exactly. Also I understand the TV deal has not been announced. At this point it’s rumoured TNT for the UK and DAZN PPV globally
I'll end up paying for it (and moaning) (and likely falling asleep before main two fights as well)
Lol
yeah I mean I wonder what the pricing will be? Will they justify a new high?
prob 25ish, but who knows, they just seem to be happy to crank up the prices now. Bring back £2 DAZN days :)
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 13:07
by rd350lc
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 12:41
prob 25ish, but who knows, they just seem to be happy to crank up the prices now. Bring back £2 DAZN days :)
I think it'll be around the 35 to 40 quid mark unfortunately.
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 13:16
by JamesPhilips
rd350lc wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 13:07
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 12:41
prob 25ish, but who knows, they just seem to be happy to crank up the prices now. Bring back £2 DAZN days :)
I think it'll be around the 35 to 40 quid mark unfortunately.
Yup I’m feeling that in the air
What’s the highest? According this list it was Fury - Chisora 3 at £26.95
what a rip off Oleksandr Usyk Vs Anthony Joshua 2 also £26.95
https://sportslens.com/uk/news/top-10-m ... in-the-uk/
I’m think £29.99 min prob £34.99
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 13:24
by SeanBrennan
rd350lc wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 13:07
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 12:41
prob 25ish, but who knows, they just seem to be happy to crank up the prices now. Bring back £2 DAZN days :)
I think it'll be around the 35 to 40 quid mark unfortunately.
ouch!
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 13:25
by SeanBrennan
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 13:16
rd350lc wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 13:07
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 12:41
prob 25ish, but who knows, they just seem to be happy to crank up the prices now. Bring back £2 DAZN days :)
I think it'll be around the 35 to 40 quid mark unfortunately.
Yup I’m feeling that in the air
What’s the highest? According this list it was Fury - Chisora 3 at £26.95
what a rip off Oleksandr Usyk Vs Anthony Joshua 2 also £26.95
https://sportslens.com/uk/news/top-10-m ... in-the-uk/
I’m think £29.99 min prob £34.99
I am laughing and crying as I bought Fuury-Chisora 3, sadly I did not fall asleep for that one...
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 14:05
by rd350lc
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 13:25
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 13:16
rd350lc wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 13:07
I think it'll be around the 35 to 40 quid mark unfortunately.
Yup I’m feeling that in the air
What’s the highest? According this list it was Fury - Chisora 3 at £26.95
what a rip off Oleksandr Usyk Vs Anthony Joshua 2 also £26.95
https://sportslens.com/uk/news/top-10-m ... in-the-uk/
I’m think £29.99 min prob £34.99
I am laughing and crying as I bought Fuury-Chisora 3, sadly I did not fall asleep for that one...
I remember getting and installing myself a satellite dish for sky when Bruno was fighting Lewis ,
Fell asleep during the undercard and when I woke up all woozy my misses said you've missed it !
Just her little joke thankfully, didn't find it so funny at the time .
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 14:18
by SeanBrennan
rd350lc wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 14:05
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 13:25
I am laughing and crying as I bought Fuury-Chisora 3, sadly I did not fall asleep for that one...
I remember getting and installing myself a satellite dish for sky when Bruno was fighting Lewis ,
Fell asleep during the undercard and when I woke up all woozy my misses said you've missed it !
Just her little joke thankfully, didn't find it so funny at the time .
HAHAHA brilliant, my wife is similar. I fell asleep on undercard of AJ-Wlad and my wife said the same, fortunately I'd only missed Quigg and Cordina iirc.
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 15:54
by gregregegg
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 05:56
gregregegg wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 05:16
tonyevs wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 05:10
Miller has over 300lb rolling relentlessly onto his opponent. I agree he is very hittable, and his punches do not appear immediately concussive ... But his chin hasn't looked like letting him down and the style appears able to wear people down to get the stoppages.
Dubois will land his big punches for sure but he will also be shipping some back whilst being made to work a lot harder than Joyce made him .. it would be nice to see Dubois prove us wrong and show grit; but he hasn't shown that yet.
Joyce wore down and stopped Parker… who had miller beat up (even prime epo miller).
Millers career best win is Washington.
44 year old brown just lasted 6 competitive rounds with him… much longer than he made it agains a rugby player or Dave Allen…
I’m sure frank has testing in place for his boy here. Miller
get that miller vs fa 50/50 fight made - winner faces dave allen
miller's resume isnt too bad tbh - relatively fresh versions of duhaupas, wach, washington. also adamek, as well as junior fa's daddy. kassi had also drawn with arreola (should've been a win for fred) and had a close one with big dom a few fights before miller pounded him. you keep mentioning these competitive fights, but he's barely lost a round past the 2nd and unlike your man big dave never lose a decision to a guy like lenroy thomas. he's a slow starter and heats up gradually.
are dub's wins much better? does miller hit much lighter than kev lerena?
DDDs wins are not better. I’m responding mainly to the claim miller will make DDD work harder than Joyce, so I’m more interested in the comparison to Joyce.
Miller vs brown was competitive while it lasted, I sure miller got it done well in the end, but it was 2-3 or 3-2 either way befor the stoppage.
If frank is ensuring miller is drug tested, which he should, I see an easy win for DDD, that’s it.
Everyone that thinks it’s a 50-50 or miller favourite should bet their house on miller, cause the odds are still 5-1 ish (the glorious 7-1 is long gone).
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 16:26
by JamesPhilips
gregregegg wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 15:54
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 05:56
gregregegg wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 05:16
Joyce wore down and stopped Parker… who had miller beat up (even prime epo miller).
Millers career best win is Washington.
44 year old brown just lasted 6 competitive rounds with him… much longer than he made it agains a rugby player or Dave Allen…
I’m sure frank has testing in place for his boy here. Miller
get that miller vs fa 50/50 fight made - winner faces dave allen
miller's resume isnt too bad tbh - relatively fresh versions of duhaupas, wach, washington. also adamek, as well as junior fa's daddy. kassi had also drawn with arreola (should've been a win for fred) and had a close one with big dom a few fights before miller pounded him. you keep mentioning these competitive fights, but he's barely lost a round past the 2nd and unlike your man big dave never lose a decision to a guy like lenroy thomas. he's a slow starter and heats up gradually.
are dub's wins much better? does miller hit much lighter than kev lerena?
DDDs wins are not better. I’m responding mainly to the claim miller will make DDD work harder than Joyce, so I’m more interested in the comparison to Joyce.
Miller vs brown was competitive while it lasted, I sure miller got it done well in the end, but it was 2-3 or 3-2 either way befor the stoppage.
If frank is ensuring miller is drug tested, which he should, I see an easy win for DDD, that’s it.
Everyone that thinks it’s a 50-50 or miller favourite should bet their house on miller, cause the odds are still 5-1 ish (the glorious 7-1 is long gone).
Lol you actually believe DDD is clean?
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 16:30
by SeanBrennan
he is no way clean, he's a Peacock fighter, the Bowers family sell heroin and crack they're hardly going to try to deter PEDS. He'll be on test, growth and and ancillary PEDS. His trainer and family are gangsters.
https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/mod ... 51445.html and google Operation Tiberius, they are all a piece of shit.
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 17:58
by polecateddy
Don’t go getting yourself sued. Probably best to just enjoy the boxing. I’m sure boxing has some really unpleasant elements, so probably best not to cross them too much if they are what you say.
Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Jarrell Miller - 23 December 2023
Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 19:55
by gregregegg
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 16:26
gregregegg wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 15:54
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 05:56
get that miller vs fa 50/50 fight made - winner faces dave allen
miller's resume isnt too bad tbh - relatively fresh versions of duhaupas, wach, washington. also adamek, as well as junior fa's daddy. kassi had also drawn with arreola (should've been a win for fred) and had a close one with big dom a few fights before miller pounded him. you keep mentioning these competitive fights, but he's barely lost a round past the 2nd and unlike your man big dave never lose a decision to a guy like lenroy thomas. he's a slow starter and heats up gradually.
are dub's wins much better? does miller hit much lighter than kev lerena?
DDDs wins are not better. I’m responding mainly to the claim miller will make DDD work harder than Joyce, so I’m more interested in the comparison to Joyce.
Miller vs brown was competitive while it lasted, I sure miller got it done well in the end, but it was 2-3 or 3-2 either way befor the stoppage.
If frank is ensuring miller is drug tested, which he should, I see an easy win for DDD, that’s it.
Everyone that thinks it’s a 50-50 or miller favourite should bet their house on miller, cause the odds are still 5-1 ish (the glorious 7-1 is long gone).
Lol you actually believe DDD is clean?
I have as much reason to believe he is clean as any other active boxer… which isn’t much to be honest.
But, I know miller was dirty, and a 300lb man having cardio for days fits pretty well with epo. So if the risk of testing is too much for miller and he is not on epo a hugggge part of what makes him effective will likely not exist.
