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margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 13:04 that said, the time has come for moses to do a job on him. a huge step up on paper but i think not so hard for moses on the night. this is well timed by moses's team

moses not gonna break the tyson record, but i can defo respect how he's been matched compared to most young hws the last few decades

I would have liked Parker to get his revenge, but that would have been an even bigger mismatch..
Whyte has made massive amounts of money for a never champion. Almost embarrassing to all those guys who made it to the top in other divisions.

joshj909 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 13:13
Yeah, I was a bit quick typing to recheck the list you mentioned Adeleye beats De Mori with ease but he has shown nothing to prove he could beat McKean.

I felt similar to you about Adeleye but I feel that he's improved mentally after the Wardley loss. He ain't going to world titles but I also feel that I (& many others) have over rated Hrgovic. Not his toughness or talent but I just don't think he has that drive.

Maybe HE'LL improve after the Dubois loss. But I just have this feeling he's a bit of a flat track bully.

I still say Adeleye beats McKean though

Taansend wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 15:19

joshj909 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 13:13
Yeah, I was a bit quick typing to recheck the list you mentioned Adeleye beats De Mori with ease but he has shown nothing to prove he could beat McKean.

I felt similar to you about Adeleye but I feel that he's improved mentally after the Wardley loss. He ain't going to world titles but I also feel that I (& many others) have over rated Hrgovic. Not his toughness or talent but I just don't think he has that drive.

Maybe HE'LL improve after the Dubois loss. But I just have this feeling he's a bit of a flat track bully.

I still say Adeleye beats McKean though

I get that. I think the fights we probably should have gotten were Adeleye vs Joyce and Hrgovic vs someone like Chisora. I think it tells us more.

does Joyce have a fight lined up? Is he still with Queensberry?

Derek Chisora rejected £2million offer to fight scary heavyweight prospect in final bow

Derek Chisora revealed to talkSPORT that he rejected a fight with Moses Itauma for his final professional bow.

49-fight (36-13) veteran Chisora is due to hang up his gloves at the half-century mark, and is currently on the lookout for the right opponent to close out his career against.

“They offered me to fight Moses Itauma in Saudi Arabia, I said ‘how much?’ they said two million, I said ‘Nah, I’m out," he told talkSPORT Fight Night over the weekend.

While Chisora rejected the domestic dust-up with Itauma, his old foe, Whyte, accepted the challenge.

The Brits are set to square off on August 16 in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, and Chisora is giving Whyte little to no chance of pulling off the victory.

"I tell you right now, somebody needs to call the police and get someone arrested for attempted murder, whoever made that fight happen," said Chisora.

"That is not the right fight for Dillian right now.

"We need to decide who is going to prison when Dillian gets battered badly.

"Either George or allegedly, one of them, has to go to jail."

"I am the IBF mandatory; I secured my position. I had to go to New York to get my position.

"The IBF president said, 'Derek, your position is secure, do not worry about it'.

"I'd be happy if Usyk or Daniel drop the WBO and IBF and then me and Joseph tear up each other for it.

"That's the plan, but you never know what happens with the promoters.

"They might be upset because I come up with this plan, and then they want to derail, but that is the plan."

2 million is a hell of a lot of money considering Moses hasn't gone past 6 and is at British title level
I guess Whyte was very happy with that money!
Where else are you getting that sort of purse.

Coco wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025, 08:14 2 million is a hell of a lot of money considering Moses hasn't gone past 6 and is at British title level
I guess Whyte was very happy with that money!
Where else are you getting that sort of purse.

Chizzy probably wants closer to £5m

Coco wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025, 08:14 2 million is a hell of a lot of money considering Moses hasn't gone past 6 and is at British title level
I guess Whyte was very happy with that money!
Where else are you getting that sort of purse.

I think they will be paying Whyte a fair bit less than that and Derek knows it.

Gran Hermano wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 12:42

KiwiRider wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025, 04:12

joshj909 wrote: ↑08 Jun 2025, 17:17

He beat Parker, Povetkin, Rivas and Chisora. Who's the worst he's heavyweight of that era who was better than him?

Come on mate, Povetkin beat him then got hospitalized with serious Covid and Whyte fought the corpse in the rematch. And Parker was all over him until a head clash, then came back around and had Whyte nearly out in the final round. The Chisora fights were probably his peak.

Whyte was all over Povetkin in the first fight if I remember right. Povetkin pulled a Wardley out of nowhere

He'd been throwing that corkscrew uppercut since the ams.

It will be interesting to see what happens to these Saudi cards and cash with it all kicking off in the Middle East

Del’s taken more punches then I realised, 2 million quid for three minutes work is not bad at all

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025, 12:43 Del’s taken more punches then I realised, 2 million quid for three minutes work is not bad at all

He probably wants to do it on a win

The current Itauma vs Whyte lineup is as follows:

Moses Itauma vs. Dillian Whyte
Anthony Cacace vs. Raymond Ford
Nick Ball vs. Sam Goodman
Filip Hrgovic vs. David Adeleye
Hayato Tsutsumi vs. Qais Ashfaq

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025, 05:01 The current Itauma vs Whyte lineup is as follows:

Moses Itauma vs. Dillian Whyte
Anthony Cacace vs. Raymond Ford
Nick Ball vs. Sam Goodman
Filip Hrgovic vs. David Adeleye
Hayato Tsutsumi vs. Qais Ashfaq

That would be a decent normal DAZN show but never PPV worthy

tony1234 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025, 05:06

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025, 05:01 The current Itauma vs Whyte lineup is as follows:

Moses Itauma vs. Dillian Whyte
Anthony Cacace vs. Raymond Ford
Nick Ball vs. Sam Goodman
Filip Hrgovic vs. David Adeleye
Hayato Tsutsumi vs. Qais Ashfaq

That would be a decent normal DAZN show but never PPV worthy

yh, it's an excellent card for a standard sub fee.

That’s an excellent article. Really good writing too,

ElFrankos wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025, 10:51 Wrote about the PPV issue: https://linesandleather.wordpress.com/2 ... ing-alive/

Agree with every word, how can you market Itauma like the new Joshua if nobody has a clue who he is ? Imagine the hype if it was ITV prime time Saturday night at the O2 ?

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025, 11:08 That’s an excellent article. Really good writing too,

X2. Skilled writing

it;s like when you pay for an only fans, then bae wants to charge an additional ppv fee for her latest post

ElFrankos wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025, 10:51 Wrote about the PPV issue: https://linesandleather.wordpress.com/2 ... ing-alive/

Nice article, enjoyed your other boxing stuff too, not so much the poetry!!

Danny Flexen is looking for writers at the mo

Coco wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025, 12:55

ElFrankos wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025, 10:51 Wrote about the PPV issue: https://linesandleather.wordpress.com/2 ... ing-alive/

Nice article, enjoyed your other boxing stuff too, not so much the poetry!!

Danny Flexen is looking for writers at the mo

Agreed.

DAZN must at least offer all their PPV'S to Sky or promoters are going to be almost wholly reliant on Turki being prepared to continue to haemorrhage cash for no return other than his ego being satiated with being boxing's benefactor in chief.

He has got enough money to make boxers rich without anybody actually watching apart from him and his coterie. Mental.

ElFrankos wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025, 10:51 Wrote about the PPV issue: https://linesandleather.wordpress.com/2 ... ing-alive/

Really enjoyed that, excellent writing.

ElFrankos wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025, 10:51 Wrote about the PPV issue: https://linesandleather.wordpress.com/2 ... ing-alive/

I concur with everyone else, you're a first class writer.

tony1234 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025, 11:11

ElFrankos wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025, 10:51 Wrote about the PPV issue: https://linesandleather.wordpress.com/2 ... ing-alive/

Agree with every word, how can you market Itauma like the new Joshua if nobody has a clue who he is ? Imagine the hype if it was ITV prime time Saturday night at the O2 ?

X2
It is the slow death, one PPV at a time.

Seriously bad writing in that blog. I'm going to point out some issues here as the gushing praise other posters have offered will only send the author down the wrong path.

"He is equal parts menace and melody, a prodigy whose hands compose violent overtures."
Clumsy and overwrought, trying very hard to sound clever and failing.

"the way a miser stuffs crown jewels into a coal shed for fear that someone might actually see them glitter."
This metaphor took a long and tortured journey. Can the writer see this image in his head? Too many disparate elements, a tonal mess.

"The irony is thicker than a heavyweight’s jab."
I've heard of a thick boxer but a thick jab? Another confused, mixed metaphor.

"his coronation is to happen behind velvet barricades and silicon walls, a cake iced then thrust into a cupboard lest revelry break out."
What?

Had to stop there, but in short: don’t reach so hard for poetic effect. It makes prose feel amateurish and self-indulgent.