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tigermoth87 wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 11:41 I'd clean her clock.

Any man in half decent shape would be a match for any boxer. It's like when the Williams sisters played some no hoper 200 ranked scrub and got their arse handed to them.

In a bout? The vast majority would get destroyed by Shields/Marshall. A novice amateur teenager takes it very lightly when sparring new grown up gym members, no matter how big they are.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 12:08

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 11:41 I'd clean her clock.

Any man in half decent shape would be a match for any boxer. It's like when the Williams sisters played some no hoper 200 ranked scrub and got their arse handed to them.

In a bout? The vast majority would get destroyed by Shields/Marshall. A novice amateur teenager takes it very lightly when sparring new grown up gym members, no matter how big they are.

Genuinely out of interest have you boxed?

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 11:41 I'd clean her clock.

Any man in half decent shape would be a match for any boxer. It's like when the Williams sisters played some no hoper 200 ranked scrub and got their arse handed to them.

200 ranked scrub that was at one point top 40 in the world Vs a highly talented 17 year old

Billie Jean King beat her opponent 3-0 when she did it against a 55 year old (like many are in the thread).

Is a silly comparison...

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 11:41 I'd clean her clock.

Any man in half decent shape would be a match for any boxer. It's like when the Williams sisters played some no hoper 200 ranked scrub and got their arse handed to them.

How good do you think the number 200 ranked tennis player in the world is at tennis, compared to "any man in half decent shape" at boxing?

I'll answer you, he is, as I said above, phenomenally good. Calling him a "scrub" is just utterly ridiculous and using that to say "Huh, fat 50 year old men off the street can beat the best women at boxing" is just as ridiculous. Compared to the population at large, these people are gods. I would expect the 200th best tennis player out of the 4 billion men in the world to beat the best woman. Hell, I'm sure the 500th could do it. That still leaves 3,999,999,500 men she beats.

I think a lot on here are seriously overestimating their fitness to go 10x2 rounds and despite Shields being a none puncher it is still good enough to beat most posters, me definitely included.

I don’t want to speak for anyone else on here but over the years I’ve spoken to plenty of lads who assume their size “advantage” would allow for an easy night against a particular boxer regardless of the gulf in fitness and skill. Bloody cloud cuckoo land to be honest.

Having only done a bit of white collar boxing training myself about 20 years ago I don’t envisage I could land much of a punch on Shields, much less avoid a pasting.

That said, as rubbish as I was, I few years back one afternoon when out with some pals I did get convinced by a random American pub stranger to have a little spar back at the flat after we’d been talking boxing for a while. He was a pretty strong bloke but only had a wrestling background, I thought it was going to be a gentle spar but he tried to take the piss really, flinging in heavy shots from the off. Fast forward 5 minutes and he’s breathing out of his arse and on the wrong end of a hiding. It taught him something I’d say, and I realised I wasn’t quite as shit as I thought.

So cheers for the training Shirow (Jon) if you’re out there still, and thanks again for the fractured ribs.

I wouldn't last 2 minutes i'm certain of that. I'm 6'1, 240lbs, no boxing experience

If you're fat and out of shape it's possible you simply wouldn't have the wind for it, but if you had strength and conditioning, you'd win regardless of Boxing experience.

For instance I think every single member of the NBA roster, and probably almost any member of the MLB roster. It wouldn't even take a Boxer to do it, just a well conditioned, athletically built man.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 14:02 If you're fat and out of shape it's possible you simply wouldn't have the wind for it, but if you had strength and conditioning, you'd win regardless of Boxing experience.

For instance I think every single member of the NBA roster, and probably almost any member of the MLB roster. It wouldn't even take a Boxer to do it, just a well conditioned, athletically built man.

Even someone who's never punched or been punched?

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 14:09

gilgamesh wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 14:02 If you're fat and out of shape it's possible you simply wouldn't have the wind for it, but if you had strength and conditioning, you'd win regardless of Boxing experience.

For instance I think every single member of the NBA roster, and probably almost any member of the MLB roster. It wouldn't even take a Boxer to do it, just a well conditioned, athletically built man.

Even someone who's never punched or been punched?

Yes

Because when he hits Claressa he's going to hit her twice as hard as she can hit him. If not 3 or 4 times harder than she can hit him.

Let's get it straight here. She doesn't knock out WOMEN. You think she's knocking out and beating up big strong guys?

Maybe I’m underestimating women’s boxing, but it looks so incredibly low level whenever I see it that I honestly don’t understand how a man could watch and think “wow these girls would batter me”.

Exactly

If you watch a Pro man with a decent amateur background, making his Debut. He's better than any Women's World Champion by miles right from the jump.

Faster, more coordinated, better combinations, better movement, better literally everything.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 14:10

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 14:09

gilgamesh wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 14:02 If you're fat and out of shape it's possible you simply wouldn't have the wind for it, but if you had strength and conditioning, you'd win regardless of Boxing experience.

For instance I think every single member of the NBA roster, and probably almost any member of the MLB roster. It wouldn't even take a Boxer to do it, just a well conditioned, athletically built man.

Even someone who's never punched or been punched?

Yes

Because when he hits Claressa he's going to hit her twice as hard as she can hit him. If not 3 or 4 times harder than she can hit him.

Let's get it straight here. She doesn't knock out WOMEN. You think she's knocking out and beating up big strong guys?

She doesn't need to knock someone out to win, but if she makes it uncomfortable for the opponent and they cover up, off balance, against the ropes, square on, she's going to unload and land at will.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 14:02 If you're fat and out of shape it's possible you simply wouldn't have the wind for it, but if you had strength and conditioning, you'd win regardless of Boxing experience.

For instance I think every single member of the NBA roster, and probably almost any member of the MLB roster. It wouldn't even take a Boxer to do it, just a well conditioned, athletically built man.

Do you realise how much ground there is between "fat and out of shape" and "a member of the NBA or MLB roster", that is, some of the highest paid professional athletes in the world?

gp. wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 14:18

gilgamesh wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 14:02 If you're fat and out of shape it's possible you simply wouldn't have the wind for it, but if you had strength and conditioning, you'd win regardless of Boxing experience.

For instance I think every single member of the NBA roster, and probably almost any member of the MLB roster. It wouldn't even take a Boxer to do it, just a well conditioned, athletically built man.

Do you realise how much ground there is between "fat and out of shape" and "a member of the NBA or MLB roster", that is, some of the highest paid professional athletes in the world?

Yes I do. There's a lot of middle ground in there where Millions of dudes who are Semi-Fat would also be too strong for Claressa.

There's also going to be some dudes that are horrifically fat and out of shape that would mop the floor with her.

I would give her the edge over most Midgets, Senior Citizens and Children under the age of 13 though.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 14:10

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 14:09

gilgamesh wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 14:02 If you're fat and out of shape it's possible you simply wouldn't have the wind for it, but if you had strength and conditioning, you'd win regardless of Boxing experience.

For instance I think every single member of the NBA roster, and probably almost any member of the MLB roster. It wouldn't even take a Boxer to do it, just a well conditioned, athletically built man.

Even someone who's never punched or been punched?

Yes

Because when he hits Claressa he's going to hit her twice as hard as she can hit him. If not 3 or 4 times harder than she can hit him.

Let's get it straight here. She doesn't knock out WOMEN. You think she's knocking out and beating up big strong guys?

She would throw way too many punches over the 20 minutes than most could keep up with, she's not knocking someone out with power, she'd stop them with fitness and punch output I'd say

I know loads of lumps who work out, who’ve never had a boxing fight, who might be bouncers, who are tough and violent and believe me they would crush any female boxer especially at a low weight in a boxing ring. Female boxing is such low quality. And women have very weak upper body strength (which is key in boxing) and possess way thinner and less robust skulls. They would get battered. You also have to remember that the female pool of active boxers is very low as most women don’t choose boxing. There are only like 2000 pro female boxers and most are awful. Most women boxers have a low KO ratio and can’t even stop another 9 stone woman yet we are expected to believe Katie Taylor would KO grown men? 15 year old local boys teams destroy international adult women’s teams in football.

Katie Taylor is allegedly the best female boxer ever. Go on you tube and watch her hit the pads. She’s awful. Can’t punch her way out of a wet paper bag. She a barely make the bag move. Be real.

This thread has been derailed by guys who are just repeatedly trying to say that big men can beat up female boxers rather than the question at hand

joshj909 wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 16:07 This thread has been derailed by guys who are just repeatedly trying to say that big men can beat up female boxers rather than the question at hand

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 15:52 I know loads of lumps who work out, who’ve never had a boxing fight, who might be bouncers, who are tough and violent

What have these giant mammoths got to do with the people on our forum who I posed the original question too?

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 16:30

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 15:52 I know loads of lumps who work out, who’ve never had a boxing fight, who might be bouncers, who are tough and violent

What have these giant mammoths got to do with the people on our forum who I posed the original question too?

exactly

paultom wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 16:34

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 16:30

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 15:52 I know loads of lumps who work out, who’ve never had a boxing fight, who might be bouncers, who are tough and violent

What have these giant mammoths got to do with the people on our forum who I posed the original question too?

exactly

And just to clarify, I'm not one of them.

I always used to think a Boxrec forum fight club would be pretty tasty, but it seems most regular posters would be beaten up by a girl, so maybe not

Beetle so if one of these non boxing trained fellas gets in with Shields and finds actually they can’t land a clean shot, what’s the plan B? Use the advantage of man strength to intimidate her into defeat? I mean.. it could work….

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑11 Nov 2025, 16:45 I always used to think a Boxrec forum fight club would be pretty tasty, but it seems most regular posters would be beaten up by a girl, so maybe not