Regarding, elmer's comments:
De La Hoya couldn't carry his own jockstrap". How original.
De La Hoya couldn't beat Ken Buchanan if Buchanan had his eyes closed and with only one hand? Whatever.
It is too bad that some people are so unobjective about a fighter that they don't like. It's not just elmersalsa who is like this. Why is so difficult for some people to admit that someone they don't like was pretty good?
Does Everyone Have Floyd Mayweather In Their Top 20 All Time
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dempseyfire
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I would rank Oscar ahead of Floyd right now, esp. as last night I re-watched their May 5th fight and scored it a 1 point win for Oscar.
I can appreciate good boxing skills (I often LIKED watching Chris Byrd) but I really can't see a good argument saying Floyd won that fight. Oscar's offense and aggression put Floyd into a 30 punches a round shell. His connect percentage wasn't great but he did land his share of punches, and the big thing was that Oscar was able to block or parry the wide majority of Floyd's shots . . .no doubt crappy Compubox was full of shit and counted a lot of BLOCKED Floyd shots as connects.
Oscar controlled the temp, landed the harder shots, was the aggressor, threw more, and generally forced Floyd to run, hold, and throw one potshot at a time. Oscar tired late and allowed Floyd to make it close but Dela Hoya was still the winner as he clearly won the 12th (Floyd won the first minute and then did nothing the last 2 mintues except run and hold, wheareas Oscar was throwing punches, landed some body shots, and ended the round with a flush right hand) If someone scored it a draw (my original scorecard) I'd have no problem.
Whitaker-Chavez is an example of a boxer beating an aggressor.
Floyd-Oscar is an example of a fighter being put into a shell and LOSING a fight by fighting too defensively.
I can appreciate good boxing skills (I often LIKED watching Chris Byrd) but I really can't see a good argument saying Floyd won that fight. Oscar's offense and aggression put Floyd into a 30 punches a round shell. His connect percentage wasn't great but he did land his share of punches, and the big thing was that Oscar was able to block or parry the wide majority of Floyd's shots . . .no doubt crappy Compubox was full of shit and counted a lot of BLOCKED Floyd shots as connects.
Oscar controlled the temp, landed the harder shots, was the aggressor, threw more, and generally forced Floyd to run, hold, and throw one potshot at a time. Oscar tired late and allowed Floyd to make it close but Dela Hoya was still the winner as he clearly won the 12th (Floyd won the first minute and then did nothing the last 2 mintues except run and hold, wheareas Oscar was throwing punches, landed some body shots, and ended the round with a flush right hand) If someone scored it a draw (my original scorecard) I'd have no problem.
Whitaker-Chavez is an example of a boxer beating an aggressor.
Floyd-Oscar is an example of a fighter being put into a shell and LOSING a fight by fighting too defensively.