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elmersalsa wrote:And you guys know how do I feel about Sugar Ray Robinson's "victories" over Kid Gavilan

You mean the way he fought in second gear against Gavilan in the first fight (in order to secure a title fight rematch for a bigger purse) and beat him handily in said rematch?

Please, tell me how you feel about it.

HomicideHenry wrote:Hagler-Leonard

haggler leonard ! has to be the only time anyone has lost a world title without being even slightly hurt .A showbiz decision !!

Hagler - Leonard was not a bad decision. I mean someone had to win...though a draw would have made everyone richer...but either way there would have been complaints...

I'm watching Norton vs Ali III for the first time now...I'll let you guys know when I'm done how I scored it. After 2 rounds I have it 1-1. 1st round Close for Ali, 2nd round clear cut for Norton.

I had it 10 rounds to 5 in favor of Ken Norton. I thought he clearly won the fight.

jonp wrote:Fenech Nelson has to be one of the worst iv seen altho David Barnes Jimmy Vincent was bad on a smaller scale.

Couldnt figure out the fenech one either. Somebody ha probably bought it up already but Jimmy Elliswas either given or lost the woerst decision of all time. At least that is what the old timers say. I think it was in europe

broonel wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:Hagler-Leonard

haggler leonard ! has to be the only time anyone has lost a world title without being even slightly hurt .A showbiz decision !!

To be fair, it was pretty damn difficult to hurt Marvin Hagler.

HomicideHenry wrote:Hagler-Leonard

This wouldn't be in my all-time worst list but I also felt that was bad decision.

Abdulhamidov-Shimizu, at the 2012 Olympics. That was the fight in which Adulhamidov went down six times in the last round and the ref waved it off each time, not giving a single ten count. Sure, the decision was overturned, but to give it to Adulhamidov in the first place was ridiculous. Apparently one judge even scored the final round 10-10. Judging by the long list of refereeing controversies on Wikipedia, I'm glad I didn't watch too much of the Olympic boxing, as it appears the whole thing was fixed. Those Olympics made me appreciate professional boxing more. The robberies in professional boxing are rarely, if ever, as blatant as they were in the 2012 Olympics.

As far as professional fights, Lewis-Holyfield.

Il Duce wrote:

broonel wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:Hagler-Leonard

haggler leonard ! has to be the only time anyone has lost a world title without being even slightly hurt .A showbiz decision !!

Marvin Hagler

'It was a Las Vegas Decision'.

I agree......

I had that fight a draw 114-114...it could've went either way.

Ezzard wrote:Hagler - Leonard was not a bad decision. I mean someone had to win...though a draw would have made everyone richer...but either way there would have been complaints...

Spot on.

I don't understand how a close fight can be considered a terrible decision either way.

A terrible decision is where the guy who clearly won does not get the decision.

Leonard -v- Hagler was a close fight however you look at it, so I don't think it really belongs in this thread.

Syntax Error wrote:

Ezzard wrote:Hagler - Leonard was not a bad decision. I mean someone had to win...though a draw would have made everyone richer...but either way there would have been complaints...

Spot on.

I don't understand how a close fight can be considered a terrible decision either way.

A terrible decision is where the guy who clearly won does not get the decision.

Leonard -v- Hagler was a close fight however you look at it, so I don't think it really belongs in this thread.

It doesn't