Graham's retirement forced upon him

[Phenomenal-Nutrition]

I don't get all the huge critiscism over Hatton and Khan for changing trainers. A trainer is a commodity and a boxer should get the best commodity at the best price. If they get a worse training experience, then they pay the price, if they get as good or better for less money that its simple economical sense for them.

Paying 10% of your £10million for a bloke standing in front of you wearing a Mr Blobby outfit is not the best way to spend £1million. They have to make the best choice for themselves. Hatton doesnt need a trainer for his last 2 fights against feather hands and Fillipino Dwarf anyway.

[Asterix]

I don't get all the huge critiscism over Hatton and Khan for changing trainers. A trainer is a commodity and a boxer should get the best commodity at the best price. If they get a worse training experience, then they pay the price, if they get as good or better for less money that its simple economical sense for them.

Paying 10% of your £10million for a bloke standing in front of you wearing a Mr Blobby outfit is not the best way to spend £1million. They have to make the best choice for themselves. Hatton doesnt need a trainer for his last 2 fights against feather hands and Fillipino Dwarf anyway.

The guy that you're calling a dwarf is not far off Hatton's height - they may in fact be the same height.

[twenty six]

HPI,
Instead of showing you arse, show us your name and come clean.
Not difficult, is it ?
You are seriously not expecting us to swallow that you are a humble boxing fan who stumbled on a thread about Hatton and decided to post ad nausium are you ?
Just at the time the Graham news broke - now there's a coincidence.
EPNG has explained why the cynicism.

[hitman_hatton1]

You were there were you?

yeah i was serving the coffee.

ffs.

graham admitted in dooley's interview that they sat down and talked.

[HughJohnson]

The way this thread has gone is plain stupid.

If you want to watch Hatton fight watch him...if not why bother sprouting pages and pages of horseshit..
Billy Graham is a rich man, the Hattons are rich...everyone`s happy(except those who hate Hatton for reasons they THINK are important to themselves).

[HughJohnson]

So if lee is that f*cking good why did matthew hatton lose? Why has Macklin not gone with this magnificent trainer in lee beard? Because he is not good enough yet. Bill graham bought the best out og MH with the very linited skills he possed and soon as someone else takes over he loses his biggest fight., well doone lee beard.

Well said.

Matt Hatton's record is padded as eff, he's crap, and their dad is pathetic in my opinion. That documentary about him and his common wife (Bingo - "it's better than an orgasm this innit girls") made we sick.

There is a lot we don't know about. Well, most of us....

Why are you getting personal????....whats Hattons mother got to do with anything?

[Phenomenal-Nutrition]

I don't get all the huge critiscism over Hatton and Khan for changing trainers. A trainer is a commodity and a boxer should get the best commodity at the best price. If they get a worse training experience, then they pay the price, if they get as good or better for less money that its simple economical sense for them.

Paying 10% of your £10million for a bloke standing in front of you wearing a Mr Blobby outfit is not the best way to spend £1million. They have to make the best choice for themselves. Hatton doesnt need a trainer for his last 2 fights against feather hands and Fillipino Dwarf anyway.

The guy that you're calling a dwarf is not far off Hatton's height - they may in fact be the same height.

I know they're about the same height Pac still started at flyweight and was probably physically his best at super bantam/featherweight

[lefthook82]

I think he had an advese affect on the PBF fight personally

His shameless attempt to influence Joe Cortez backfired spectacurarly (spelling?). I said as much to my friend when he first talked to Cortez

[Captain Hook]

Hugh - stop being such a wet lettuce, have you seen the woman on that documentary?!

Nobody's getting personal, it's just a bit of banter, like putting your location as "your momma's bed" .......

Anyway, I agree the thread has gone off track. And no response from HPI to twentysix's question so may as well leave it.

[coneye]

Facts are , Billy took a kid and trained him for years, bringing that kid to the top he became the biggest ticket seller in recent history, thats fact , due to billy's training , Ricky's determination and Warrens plotting along the way , Ricky managed to beat the unbeatable Kosta , His win was down to getting the fight against an aging great with a bad shoulder who had not fought for ages , he aslo got the fight on his home ground with a ref who helped him . ALL good thats boxing .

Then start the problems Ricky is limited at the top level they bring in others too help, they can try anything and everything it don't matter, cracks started too appear and they always would, ten years ago billy was the man in charge ,the more money comes in the more success they have, the less he's in charge .

The world starts looking for Ricky to get better he can't , because he's has good has he gets , Billy cannot improve him anymore,For Ricky to now compete against the Mayweathers he has to improve and he can't , billy is always going to dislike others coming in the cracks get wider and it finishes , regarding Mathew well he has always been limited he got his record because he was Ricky's brother and he had the luxury of picking his opponents , he never had the talent to go has far has he did without that luxury, he did'nt get beat becaquse of Beard or Billy he got beat by a BETTER FIGHTER just like Ricky did.

They all had a good run they all got fame and fortune, , They have been to the top and are on the way down ,it happens, stop blaming this one and that one, i mean look at it Hatton has more money than he can spend Mathew has had a blessed boxing carreer he would'nt have had if he were not Ricky's brother.
Billy well he's got enough money to go retire in the states ,and spend the rest of his life chasing snakes , when most can't afford a holiday there ,
Mrs Hatton well she can now spend the rest of her life , shouting BINGO having a laugh with all the other rinse blonds until she goes to blue rinse, and people will point , see her over there , thats Ricky Hattons mam new her when she had nowt, she will be a celebrity at bingo and the workmens club for life

The only down side to the whole saga really, is poor old Ray , he never really came across has anything other than a interfering father who should off kept his nose out, and now the whole world knows that his ability in the bedroom is so good ,his wife would rather have a game of bingo ,and in the true old fashioned working class manchester way he can't even say shut it woman or i'll give thee a clip round the lughole cos his son's might give him one
All in all i think they have done pretty well and can't see why so many of you are so hot and bothered ,

They have all reached the top and are on there way down , SHIT HAPPENS.

[chesh]

Great post, Coneye.

[HPI]

HPI,
Instead of showing you arse, show us your name and come clean.
Not difficult, is it ?
You are seriously not expecting us to swallow that you are a humble boxing fan who stumbled on a thread about Hatton and decided to post ad nausium are you ?
Just at the time the Graham news broke - now there's a coincidence.
EPNG has explained why the cynicism.

What difference does it make, ok my name is Henry Paul Iddison, thus why the initials HPI.

So what does this tell you?

Just because I have continued with some posts which have educated and detailed points I get accused of posting ad nausium, i presume you meant ad nauseam?

Anyway, ive not attacked any of you or done anything to warrant this treatment, so if i decide to never post here again it wasnt because im some spy looking to get some dirt or share some dirt with some internet wise guys its because they werent willing to open their minds and consider a different side to the story.

Billy Graham didnt wouldnt need to "preach" to you lot, seems like your already converted.

[HPI]

Hugh - stop being such a wet lettuce, have you seen the woman on that documentary?!

Nobody's getting personal, it's just a bit of banter, like putting your location as "your momma's bed" .......

Anyway, I agree the thread has gone off track. And no response from HPI to twentysix's question so may as well leave it.

I have a life which allows me to leave the house Mr Hook and therefore twenty six has had to wait for his reply, so now what have you got to say?

[Captain Hook]

Stop being so precious sweetheart, this isn't fornicating Sunday School.

It must just be a coincidence that you show up for this thread and have commented on nothing else.....

Very presidential name, I like it

[Captain Hook]

PS Who said your posts were "educated", besides yourself?

I look forward to reading your comments on other topics besides Billy and Ricky.

And nobody thinks Billy is whiter than white or Mr Perfect, but a lot of people are fond of the guy and have respect for him. No harm in that.

[twenty six]

Thanks for the reply HPI.
I'll look you up on facebook not.