Classic American West Coast Boxing

[Boxingnut]

Khan won't be matched with a puncher for a long, long time, Rob.

You are right there Bennie, he was carefully matched before. He will be even more carefully matched now. If a light puncher like Limond can have him over......

[bennie]

When Alex Arthur got turned over by Michael Gomez in 2003, they dropped him down a level and brought him back slowly but surely to a WBO title. Arthur didn't even have to fight for the title to win it (if that makes sense).
This is boxing in the 21st century.

[Randyman]

Khan won't be matched with a puncher for a long, long time, Rob.

Some fighters can shake off a bad knockout and some can't. It also depends on his management and trainers. Khan needs his confidence restored. Lots of fighters have rebounded after being stopped. Hopefully Freddie Roach, the Southern California weather and a complete change of environment will help him. I wish him luck.

Randy

[Rick Farris]

Rick, we like the same fighters and we like them for the same reasons. Some fighters may never win a title but they are champions none the less. Errnie was also one of my father's favorite. I wrote the following a while back on my website.

When I saw this photo of Ernie “Indian Red” Lopez recently, I couldn’t help but be moved. You can still see the fighter’s determination, but you can also see the pain of a hard life, whether by his own choosing, or by fate, circumstances and life. I wonder if he realizes just how vital a part of California’s boxing history he is, especially to Los Angeles boxing history, which has become, arguably the best fight town in the country, in terms of a fan base, and in it’s rich contribution to boxing in general. Lopez was inducted into the California Boxing Hall of Fame on March 6, 2004, and he certainly deserved it. Thanks to Don Fraser for making sure it happened.

Ernie “Indian Red” Lopez began his professional career on January 1, 1964, winning a 6 round decision over Armand Laurenco, at The Castaway Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada. They would fight two more times, drawing in the second fight, and Lopez stopping him in their third fight in the first round of a ten round fight. He fought his last fight against future welterweight champion John H. Stracey on October 29, 1974 at the Royal Albert Hall in Kensington, London. He was stopped in the seventh round of a scheduled 10 round fight. In between those two fights he fought the likes of Armando Muniz, Jose “Mantequilla” Napoles, Emile Griffith and Hedgemon Lewis. Lopez and Lewis had three fights, with Lopez stopping Lewis twice, and losing a decision in the second fight. He was a mainstay at the Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles, and in the Hotel arenas in Las Vegas. His career record reads: 60 fights with 47 wins, 23 of them by KO, he lost 12 times and he drew once. Not too shabby.

For reasons of his own Ernie seemingly dropped off the planet, beginning in the 1970’s he hitchhiked and roamed the country, coming back from time to time to visit with his family, however briefly. In the early 1990’s he disappeared completely. The family had no idea if Ernie was dead or alive, until early 2004, with the help of the Los Angeles Police Department, he was found in the Presbyterian Night Shelter in Fort Worth, Texas.

Any fight fan knows that Ernie is the older brother of Danny “Little Red” Lopez. I hope that they have reconciled any differences they may have had. One was a champ, one wasn’t. Two different fighters, two different weight classes, completely different opponents, one should not reflect on the other. With or without an official title Ernie “Indian Red” Lopez will a always be a champ to his many fans. He always fought with heart and was crowd favorite. If ever a boxer’s life and career called out for movie to be made, it’s Lopez’. I can’t imagine a more compelling story. We are proud that he is one of Los Angeles’ Greats!

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Randy, you and I see so much the same. How could we not? We have to rely on stories from guys like Frank or Hap Navarro to really get that Hollywood Legion era feeling. How I love all the Keeny Teran stuff you guys have contributed, not to mention Bolanos. My only memory of Gil Cadilli was from a 1971 house warming party for Ruben & Carol Navarro, who'd just bought a cool two-story Spanish style home in Monterey Park. Gil was there, Joe Pimentel, Porky Acuna (Ruben's cuz), who was leaving for Marine boot camp the following week. Viet Nam was going hot & heavy at the time. Trainer Julio Flores turned up, with another Flores stablemate, Ronnie Cisneros. But Cadilli was the guy I was curious about, a guy whom I'd seen at the Main St. Gym training boxers, one I knew had fought the great Willie Pep, to name one of many.

Gil was having a good time, and drank a bit, fell asleep in the corner of the kitchen. I had to leave, I was with friends. As I said my "good byes", the phone rings and Ruben answers. It's Mando Ramos, and he needs directions. The night was young as I strolled off early in the evening, but from what I heard, things would soon heat up. Navarro and Ramos were a pair to draw too, add Raul Rojas and Frankie Crawford . . . forget about it. Forget about the L.A. Rams lineman from the 60's, the real Los Angeles "Fearsome Foresome" was a quartet of L.A. lightweights who occasionally "partied" together.

You know one of my greatest post-boxing career Olympic Auditorium stories took place in the very late 70's, when working on a boxing TV movie ("The Contender"). While we shot the footage, I had full access to the Olympic to set lights for the production. Remember when Jimmy Lennon would signal to somebody in the rafters to lower the microphone? Then the mike would fall from the sky, attached to it's cable, which disappeared high in the Olympics rafters. If you looked closely, as I did, I saw catwalks that lined the ceiling of the auditorium. There was this kinda rope-type stairway with thin wood steps laced in, that was to climb up to get to the catwalks. You know, kinda circus-like for an established auditorium. You had to pull a rope to get the "tarzan" type ladder in position to climb, and also tie it off, or you'd end up swinging from a vine high above the Olympic's ringside seats. What the Hell, I'm game, this is what lighting tech's like myself often had to do. A few moments later, I was right up in those rafters, right with the spirits of boxing from days gone by. I had the best view of the ring, from directly above it, where occasionally a daring TV director will mount a camera for an "artsy" touch to an otherwise basic situation.

I didn't have the luck of knowing every square foot of the Legion, but I do know the Olympic.

Just rambling. Hey guys, in three weeks from this very moment, we'll all be sitting face-to-face, and I look forward to it.


-Rick

Hey, great rambling Rick! Speaking of Tarzan, believe it or not, I'm every bit as good as Johnny Weissmuller with the Tarzan yell, well, almost as good. I could do a voice over for a movie. Tarzan was my childhood hero. I drove everyone nuts with my yell.

I'm also looking forward to seeing you and everyone else. Can't wait.

Randy

Well Randy, since you bring up "Tarzan", let me share a recent thought I had about the jungle man. Two weeks ago, we were filming the TV production I work on in Century City. Century City was once the back lot for 20th Century Fox Studios, which is located right next door. Today, right where the Century Plaza Hotel stands, marks the spot of the old Fox Lagoon, the part of the back lot where Tarzans outdoor jungle scenes were filmed. The Fox lot was scaled back considerably in the 60's, thus Century City came to be. We were shooting in the Presidential Suite of the Century Plaza, on the top floor, and I was able to walk out on the balcony and look west to the ocean. As I looked downward to the pool area below, I realized that it was once a jungle lagoon and visualized Tarzan flying thru the air swining from a vine. And that yell.

-Rick

[Rick Farris]

Khan won't be matched with a puncher for a long, long time, Rob.

Some fighters can shake off a bad knockout and some can't. It also depends on his management and trainers. Khan needs his confidence restored. Lots of fighters have rebounded after being stopped. Hopefully Freddie Roach, the Southern California weather and a complete change of environment will help him. I wish him luck.

Randy

I feel the same. Sometimes a KO loss devistates a guy, and when this is true, write him off. Other guys who are true fighters just shake it off. It's a one time event and often means nothing. In Khan's case, he got got caught in the opening seconds by a hard shot. Same thing happened to Griffith against Hurricane Carter. Carter would have never defeated Griffith in a rematch, Carter would stop trying late in a fight. I like Freddie Roach, but I get a little fed up of boxers blaming a coach for a KO loss. Maybe Khan's coach was a problem, I don't know. Bennie would know better . You have to go into a fight warm, better yet steaming. You have to be ready for that initial blow, it's always easier once your motor is running hot. Amir did not take a beating, just a good shot. His body is fine, and hopefully, this can used a positive learning experience. Ike Williams lost 20 times or so. Of course, Ike was an exception to any norm. I want Khan to come back, next week I may get my ass outta bed early on saturday and make it down to Wildcard to check him out. My time has been very limited in recent weeks.

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[Randyman]

Rick said:
Well Randy, since you bring up "Tarzan", let me share a recent thought I had about the jungle man. Two weeks ago, we were filming the TV production I work on in Century City. Century City was once the back lot for 20th Century Fox Studios, which is located right next door. Today, right where the Century Plaza Hotel stands, marks the spot of the old Fox Lagoon, the part of the back lot where Tarzans outdoor jungle scenes were filmed. The Fox lot was scaled back considerably in the 60's, thus Century City came to be. We were shooting in the Presidential Suite of the Century Plaza, on the top floor, and I was able to walk out on the balcony and look west to the ocean. As I looked downward to the pool area below, I realized that it was once a jungle lagoon and visualized Tarzan flying thru the air swining from a vine. And that yell.

-Rick

There was a campground in the Soledad Canyon area that my family and I would go camping at when I was a kid. It was called "Little Africa" and was an old film location used for Tarzan movies. It looked like an African jungle with huge trees and brush. It also had a small lake in it. I must have climbed very tree on the grounds. Are you familiar with it?

Randy

[Randyman]

Wow, what strategy. I wonder how he came up with that.

[Randyman]

Khan won't be matched with a puncher for a long, long time, Rob.

Some fighters can shake off a bad knockout and some can't. It also depends on his management and trainers. Khan needs his confidence restored. Lots of fighters have rebounded after being stopped. Hopefully Freddie Roach, the Southern California weather and a complete change of environment will help him. I wish him luck.

Randy

I feel the same. Sometimes a KO loss devistates a guy, and when this is true, write him off. Other guys who are true fighters just shake it off. It's a one time event and often means nothing. In Khan's case, he got got caught in the opening seconds by a hard shot. Same thing happened to Griffith against Hurricane Carter. Carter would have never defeated Griffith in a rematch, Carter would stop trying late in a fight. I like Freddie Roach, but I get a little fed up of boxers blaming a coach for a KO loss. Maybe Khan's coach was a problem, I don't know. Bennie would know better . You have to go into a fight warm, better yet steaming. You have to be ready for that initial blow, it's always easier once your motor is running hot. Amir did not take a beating, just a good shot. His body is fine, and hopefully, this can used a positive learning experience. Ike Williams lost 20 times or so. Of course, Ike was an exception to any norm. I want Khan to come back, next week I may get my ass outta bed early on saturday and make it down to Wildcard to check him out. My time has been very limited in recent weeks.

Think Joe Louis and Max Schmeling.

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Rick said:
Well Randy, since you bring up "Tarzan", let me share a recent thought I had about the jungle man. Two weeks ago, we were filming the TV production I work on in Century City. Century City was once the back lot for 20th Century Fox Studios, which is located right next door. Today, right where the Century Plaza Hotel stands, marks the spot of the old Fox Lagoon, the part of the back lot where Tarzans outdoor jungle scenes were filmed. The Fox lot was scaled back considerably in the 60's, thus Century City came to be. We were shooting in the Presidential Suite of the Century Plaza, on the top floor, and I was able to walk out on the balcony and look west to the ocean. As I looked downward to the pool area below, I realized that it was once a jungle lagoon and visualized Tarzan flying thru the air swining from a vine. And that yell.

-Rick

There was a campground in the Soledad Canyon area that my family and I would go camping at when I was a kid. It was called "Little Africa" and was an old film location used for Tarzan movies. It looked like an African jungle with huge trees and brush. It also had a small lake in it. I must have climbed very tree on the grounds. Are you familiar with it?

Randy

Randy, back in the late 1940's-early 50's, what is now Whittier Narrows (Legg Lake) used to be like a jungle, it was used to film movies, and we kids used to ride our bikes there to see the filming, there was also a lagoon there that we used to go swimming in, there was a bunch of tree and we had ropes tie to the trees and we would swing on them and pretend we were Tarzan.

[Rick Farris]

Khan won't be matched with a puncher for a long, long time, Rob.

That's a smart move at this stage. However, you can only protect a chin for so long. It won't come down to Amir Khan's chin, but his heart. If he's got a fighter's heart, then there is nothing to worry about. I don't consider his recent loss as anything more than a "fast shuffle". If it makes him even a little bit gun shy, then he has no chance. Hell, the kid wasn't even hurt, probably didn't feel a thing. He's in L.A. today, and I'm an idiot if I don't make time to see him before he returns to the U.k. for his december bout.

[Rick Farris]

Rick said:
Well Randy, since you bring up "Tarzan", let me share a recent thought I had about the jungle man. Two weeks ago, we were filming the TV production I work on in Century City. Century City was once the back lot for 20th Century Fox Studios, which is located right next door. Today, right where the Century Plaza Hotel stands, marks the spot of the old Fox Lagoon, the part of the back lot where Tarzans outdoor jungle scenes were filmed. The Fox lot was scaled back considerably in the 60's, thus Century City came to be. We were shooting in the Presidential Suite of the Century Plaza, on the top floor, and I was able to walk out on the balcony and look west to the ocean. As I looked downward to the pool area below, I realized that it was once a jungle lagoon and visualized Tarzan flying thru the air swining from a vine. And that yell.

-Rick

There was a campground in the Soledad Canyon area that my family and I would go camping at when I was a kid. It was called "Little Africa" and was an old film location used for Tarzan movies. It looked like an African jungle with huge trees and brush. It also had a small lake in it. I must have climbed very tree on the grounds. Are you familiar with it?

Very much so, in fact, I have been a part of more than one production in the 70's that used it. The Johnny Weismuller Tarzans were shot at Fox, but in the early 60's, a Tarzan TV series was shot in Soledad starring former football star Mike Henry, playing Tarzan. Mike is a personal friend of mine, we met when he starred in the "Smokey & The Bandit" movies, playing the "Junior" the son of Jackie Gleason's charactor.

-Rick

Randy

[kikibalt]

Khan won't be matched with a puncher for a long, long time, Rob.

That's a smart move at this stage. However, you can only protect a chin for so long. It won't come down to Amir Khan's chin, but his heart. If he's got a fighter's heart, then there is nothing to worry about. I don't consider his recent loss as anything more than a "fast shuffle". If it makes him even a little bit gun shy, then he has no chance. Hell, the kid wasn't even hurt, probably didn't feel a thing. He's in L.A. today, and I'm an idiot if I don't make time to see him before he returns to the U.k. for his december bout.

Rick, he didn't feel a thing because he was OUT.... ;;-)

[Rick Farris]

Lucia Rijker . . .

I just spoke with Lucia Rijker in Holland. She is scheduled to return on the 5th and plans to attend the WBHOF Banquet as my guest. This is an amazing woman far beyond her unbeaten boxing and kick boxing success. At 5'6" and 140lbs. she is without question the greatest female fighter in history. A four time undefeated World kickboxing champ who destroyed the best of Thailand and Japan in their hometowns, and a truly great undefeated world boxing champ. Lucia is big on the speaking circuit world wide as a motivator and life coach. She is also starring in a SHOWTIME series and involvd in other film work as well.

She is a future Hall of Famer, hopefully next year.

I'm going to find some of Lucia's bouts to post here. She is special, I like her a lot. I look forward to your meeting her on November 15th.

-Rick Farris

[Randyman]

Khan won't be matched with a puncher for a long, long time, Rob.

That's a smart move at this stage. However, you can only protect a chin for so long. It won't come down to Amir Khan's chin, but his heart. If he's got a fighter's heart, then there is nothing to worry about. I don't consider his recent loss as anything more than a "fast shuffle". If it makes him even a little bit gun shy, then he has no chance. Hell, the kid wasn't even hurt, probably didn't feel a thing. He's in L.A. today, and I'm an idiot if I don't make time to see him before he returns to the U.k. for his december bout.

A guy that gets knocked out quick the way Khan was is much better off than someone like Meldrick Taylor, who, despite racking up the points against Julio Cesar Chavez, was getting beat pretty bad before suffering his last minute knockdown and stoppage by referee Richard Steele (regardless of what you think about Steele stopping the fight). Taylor was never the same again. Chavez ruined him. Ray Mancini got stopped by Alexis Arguello and came back to win a championship from from the rugged but light punching Art Frias. Still, whether it's a first round knockout of a last round knockout, some fighters can do and some can't. It has to come from within. Without putting the blame on any trainers, I do think that all trainers are not equal. If you have the right stuff, including heart, the right trainer will coax it out of you, but it has to be there first. Time will tell with Khan. but for now, there is no shame in losing or getting stopped. He's back in the gym and that says a lot.

[Randyman]

Rick said:
Well Randy, since you bring up "Tarzan", let me share a recent thought I had about the jungle man. Two weeks ago, we were filming the TV production I work on in Century City. Century City was once the back lot for 20th Century Fox Studios, which is located right next door. Today, right where the Century Plaza Hotel stands, marks the spot of the old Fox Lagoon, the part of the back lot where Tarzans outdoor jungle scenes were filmed. The Fox lot was scaled back considerably in the 60's, thus Century City came to be. We were shooting in the Presidential Suite of the Century Plaza, on the top floor, and I was able to walk out on the balcony and look west to the ocean. As I looked downward to the pool area below, I realized that it was once a jungle lagoon and visualized Tarzan flying thru the air swining from a vine. And that yell.

-Rick

There was a campground in the Soledad Canyon area that my family and I would go camping at when I was a kid. It was called "Little Africa" and was an old film location used for Tarzan movies. It looked like an African jungle with huge trees and brush. It also had a small lake in it. I must have climbed very tree on the grounds. Are you familiar with it?

Very much so, in fact, I have been a part of more than one production in the 70's that used it. The Johnny Weismuller Tarzans were shot at Fox, but in the early 60's, a Tarzan TV series was shot in Soledad starring former football star Mike Henry, playing Tarzan. Mike is a personal friend of mine, we met when he starred in the "Smokey & The Bandit" movies, playing the "Junior" the son of Jackie Gleason's charactor.

-Rick

Randy

Rick, correct me if I'm wrong. Mike Henry starred in few Tarzan movies during the 60's but it was Ron Ely who played Tarzan in the television series. Unless there was another series that I'm not aware of.

Randy

[Rick Farris]

Rick said:
Well Randy, since you bring up "Tarzan", let me share a recent thought I had about the jungle man. Two weeks ago, we were filming the TV production I work on in Century City. Century City was once the back lot for 20th Century Fox Studios, which is located right next door. Today, right where the Century Plaza Hotel stands, marks the spot of the old Fox Lagoon, the part of the back lot where Tarzans outdoor jungle scenes were filmed. The Fox lot was scaled back considerably in the 60's, thus Century City came to be. We were shooting in the Presidential Suite of the Century Plaza, on the top floor, and I was able to walk out on the balcony and look west to the ocean. As I looked downward to the pool area below, I realized that it was once a jungle lagoon and visualized Tarzan flying thru the air swining from a vine. And that yell.

-Rick

There was a campground in the Soledad Canyon area that my family and I would go camping at when I was a kid. It was called "Little Africa" and was an old film location used for Tarzan movies. It looked like an African jungle with huge trees and brush. It also had a small lake in it. I must have climbed very tree on the grounds. Are you familiar with it?

Randy

Randy, back in the late 1940's-early 50's, what is now Whittier Narrows (Legg Lake) used to be like a jungle, it was used to film movies, and we kids used to ride our bikes there to see the filming, there was also a lagoon there that we used to go swimming in, there was a bunch of tree and we had ropes tie to the trees and we would swing on them and pretend we were Tarzan.

Frank, I used to ride horses with my girlfriend in the San Gabriel River bed, not far from Legg Lake. On one occasion, one of her girlfriend's horses got stuck in quick sand in that river bed. When I discovered the lake had patches of quick sand in it I was amazed. Quick sand was something I'd only seen in movies. By the way, some old wrangler got the horse out of the quick sand.

[Rick Farris]

There was a campground in the Soledad Canyon area that my family and I would go camping at when I was a kid. It was called "Little Africa" and was an old film location used for Tarzan movies. It looked like an African jungle with huge trees and brush. It also had a small lake in it. I must have climbed very tree on the grounds. Are you familiar with it?

Very much so, in fact, I have been a part of more than one production in the 70's that used it. The Johnny Weismuller Tarzans were shot at Fox, but in the early 60's, a Tarzan TV series was shot in Soledad starring former football star Mike Henry, playing Tarzan. Mike is a personal friend of mine, we met when he starred in the "Smokey & The Bandit" movies, playing the "Junior" the son of Jackie Gleason's charactor.

-Rick

Randy[/quote][/quote]
Rick, correct me if I'm wrong. Mike Henry starred in few Tarzan movies during the 60's but it was Ron Ely who played Tarzan in the television series. Unless there was another series that I'm not aware of.

Randy[/quote]


Ron Ely was the TV Tarzan. Mike spoke often of playing the Tarzan role, I thought it was from TV. I could be wrong. I know Mike played the role prior to Ron Ely.

-Rick

[Randyman]

Rick said:
Well Randy, since you bring up "Tarzan", let me share a recent thought I had about the jungle man. Two weeks ago, we were filming the TV production I work on in Century City. Century City was once the back lot for 20th Century Fox Studios, which is located right next door. Today, right where the Century Plaza Hotel stands, marks the spot of the old Fox Lagoon, the part of the back lot where Tarzans outdoor jungle scenes were filmed. The Fox lot was scaled back considerably in the 60's, thus Century City came to be. We were shooting in the Presidential Suite of the Century Plaza, on the top floor, and I was able to walk out on the balcony and look west to the ocean. As I looked downward to the pool area below, I realized that it was once a jungle lagoon and visualized Tarzan flying thru the air swining from a vine. And that yell.

-Rick

There was a campground in the Soledad Canyon area that my family and I would go camping at when I was a kid. It was called "Little Africa" and was an old film location used for Tarzan movies. It looked like an African jungle with huge trees and brush. It also had a small lake in it. I must have climbed very tree on the grounds. Are you familiar with it?

Randy

Randy, back in the late 1940's-early 50's, what is now Whittier Narrows (Legg Lake) used to be like a jungle, it was used to film movies, and we kids used to ride our bikes there to see the filming, there was also a lagoon there that we used to go swimming in, there was a bunch of tree and we had ropes tie to the trees and we would swing on them and pretend we were Tarzan.

Frank, are you talking about Marano Beach? I used to go there all the time. During the 1940's they had dances and picnics and parties, Pachuco style. my father used to tell me about those days every time we passed through there. It was once a hot spot in a low budget kind of way.

[kikibalt]

This movie was shot at Whittier Narrow (Legg Lake) '1950'

Randy, I guess we do learn something new every day, never knew there was/is quick sand at the SG River bed.

[Randyman]

There was a campground in the Soledad Canyon area that my family and I would go camping at when I was a kid. It was called "Little Africa" and was an old film location used for Tarzan movies. It looked like an African jungle with huge trees and brush. It also had a small lake in it. I must have climbed very tree on the grounds. Are you familiar with it?

Very much so, in fact, I have been a part of more than one production in the 70's that used it. The Johnny Weismuller Tarzans were shot at Fox, but in the early 60's, a Tarzan TV series was shot in Soledad starring former football star Mike Henry, playing Tarzan. Mike is a personal friend of mine, we met when he starred in the "Smokey & The Bandit" movies, playing the "Junior" the son of Jackie Gleason's charactor.

-Rick

Randy

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Rick, correct me if I'm wrong. Mike Henry starred in few Tarzan movies during the 60's but it was Ron Ely who played Tarzan in the television series. Unless there was another series that I'm not aware of.

Randy[/quote]


Ron Ely was the TV Tarzan. Mike spoke often of playing the Tarzan role, I thought it was from TV. I could be wrong. I know Mike played the role prior to Ron Ely.

-Rick[/quote]
Rick, there was a time in my life when I knew every bit of trivia there was to know about Tarzan. Not so much anymore. I read all of Edgar Rice Burroughs books years ago. The movies and the television never really portrayed him as he was written by Burroughs. It was a constant source of aggravation for him. But because of the money he made from the movies he made his peace with it.

Did you know that Tarzana, California was named so because that was once home to the Burroughs ranch?

By the way, Henry did a better job as Tarzan than Ely did, at least in my opinion.

[Randyman]

This movie was shot at Whittier Narrow (Legg Lake) '1950'

Randy, I guess we do learn something new very day, never knew there was/is quick sand at the SG River bed.

I do know that much of the area is very sandy, including all the way into Pico Rivera. The soil is unstable in much of the area. How do I know? I was buried alive when I was a kid, in a cave in. I was presumed dead when they pulled me out. I received an education on the sandy spil of the region.

[kikibalt]

There was a campground in the Soledad Canyon area that my family and I would go camping at when I was a kid. It was called "Little Africa" and was an old film location used for Tarzan movies. It looked like an African jungle with huge trees and brush. It also had a small lake in it. I must have climbed very tree on the grounds. Are you familiar with it?

Randy

Randy, back in the late 1940's-early 50's, what is now Whittier Narrows (Legg Lake) used to be like a jungle, it was used to film movies, and we kids used to ride our bikes there to see the filming, there was also a lagoon there that we used to go swimming in, there was a bunch of tree and we had ropes tie to the trees and we would swing on them and pretend we were Tarzan.

Frank, are you talking about Marano Beach? I used to go there all the time. During the 1940's they had dances and picnics and parties, Pachuco style. my father used to tell me about those days every time we passed through there. It was once a hot spot in a low budget kind of way.

No, marano beach was at the NW corner of San Gabriel Bl and Rosemeand, the part I'm talking about is where the lakes are right now.

Btw, I too went to the parties at marano beach.

[Randyman]

The greatest film Tarzan: Johnny Weissmuller. The greatest Jane ? Maureen O'Sullivan.