The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
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Finito's next defense was an outstanding way of how to completely outclass your opponent. He won every round against rugged southpaw challenger and former Mexican Jr flyweight champion Javier Varguez of Merida.
The fight was an undercard of the Chiquita Gonzalez vs Michael Carbajal rubber-match.
Varguez was defeated on points by champion Carbajal in 1991 for a title effort at jr flyweight. Finito totally outclassed Varguez. He won every round with spectacular sublime boxing. He uses all his offensive arsenal: left jabs, uppercuts, straight eights and left hooks and made his rival miss by not being a stationary target. It was a complete masterpiece by Finito who won by TKO in round 8
It was Finito's 12th title defense
It was November 12, 1994 at Mexico City's Monumental Plaza de Toros. Well, Chiquita won the trilogy. Is Finito next?
The fight was an undercard of the Chiquita Gonzalez vs Michael Carbajal rubber-match.
Varguez was defeated on points by champion Carbajal in 1991 for a title effort at jr flyweight. Finito totally outclassed Varguez. He won every round with spectacular sublime boxing. He uses all his offensive arsenal: left jabs, uppercuts, straight eights and left hooks and made his rival miss by not being a stationary target. It was a complete masterpiece by Finito who won by TKO in round 8
It was Finito's 12th title defense
It was November 12, 1994 at Mexico City's Monumental Plaza de Toros. Well, Chiquita won the trilogy. Is Finito next?
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Finito improves to 39-0, with 28 knockouts. Varguez regressed to 37-17-1, with 27KOs.
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Finito improves to 40-0 with 30 knockouts when he quickly dispatched Yamil Caraballo of Colombia with a right hand in the first round
It was Finito's 13th title defense
The date was on December 10th, 1994
It was Finito's 13th title defense
The date was on December 10th, 1994
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All this milking of the title by Ricardo "the Bjork Stalker" Lopez makes Oscarito thirsty.


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I'm sure DLH will rated in his top 100.
Remember elmer is very big on titles.
It is a big deal for Ken Buchanan to win the British and European titles. De La Hoya won world titles at 130, 135, 140, 147, and 154. . His dislike of De La Hoya will play no factor here.
Remember elmer is very big on titles.
It is a big deal for Ken Buchanan to win the British and European titles. De La Hoya won world titles at 130, 135, 140, 147, and 154. . His dislike of De La Hoya will play no factor here.
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Also has a gold medal, just like the incredible Pascual Perez. That has to count for something. It tells us a lot.
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Sometimes a champion looks so great in the fight ring that some fans start to criticize him if he really is that good or the opponent is really that bad or a combination of both.
Sometimes some champions get those types of things. The challenger is sometimes so bad that people question how that fellow got a title shot to begin with. Who selected him as the next challenger and so on.
That happened to Finito in his 14th title defense of Saturday, April 1, 1995 at the Buffalo Bill's Star Arena in Primm, NV. But, before anyone starts to criticize his challenge, let's not forget that some great champions had overmatched opponents. We remember the great Joe Louis and The Bum of the Month Club. It is not that Louis had always bad challengers. He is not the only one nor the first or last champion to win over inferior fighters. That has happened to the best of them: Muhammad Ali, Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Robinson, Willie Pep, Carlos Monzon and Marvelous to name a few. They, like Finito, had great and bad challengers.
Finito won every round against challenger Andy Tabanas of the Philippines. Tabanas with a record of 30-2 with 19KOs, was the 4th Pinoy boxer to ever challenged him for his WBC World Minimum crown.
Tabanas at least had the heart of a lion even though he was clearly overwhelmed and overmatched. He was finally stopped in the last round.
Finito improves to 41-0, with 31KOs
Sometimes some champions get those types of things. The challenger is sometimes so bad that people question how that fellow got a title shot to begin with. Who selected him as the next challenger and so on.
That happened to Finito in his 14th title defense of Saturday, April 1, 1995 at the Buffalo Bill's Star Arena in Primm, NV. But, before anyone starts to criticize his challenge, let's not forget that some great champions had overmatched opponents. We remember the great Joe Louis and The Bum of the Month Club. It is not that Louis had always bad challengers. He is not the only one nor the first or last champion to win over inferior fighters. That has happened to the best of them: Muhammad Ali, Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Robinson, Willie Pep, Carlos Monzon and Marvelous to name a few. They, like Finito, had great and bad challengers.
Finito won every round against challenger Andy Tabanas of the Philippines. Tabanas with a record of 30-2 with 19KOs, was the 4th Pinoy boxer to ever challenged him for his WBC World Minimum crown.
Tabanas at least had the heart of a lion even though he was clearly overwhelmed and overmatched. He was finally stopped in the last round.
Finito improves to 41-0, with 31KOs
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The 14th title defense of Finito's career was the only fight he had for the year 1995
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In 1995, Oscarito had another big year. After 4 wins in 1994 against fighters known by people besides their mother, he had another 5 fights in 1995!!!
No one wondered if Oscarito was "that good" because he fought live and respected opponents unlike an overrated Mexican fighter fighting at the same period.
With wins over John John Molina, Rafael Ruelas, Genaro Hernadez and Jesse James Leija, the Great Oscarito was already securing his place as a Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time.
No one wondered if Oscarito was "that good" because he fought live and respected opponents unlike an overrated Mexican fighter fighting at the same period.
With wins over John John Molina, Rafael Ruelas, Genaro Hernadez and Jesse James Leija, the Great Oscarito was already securing his place as a Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time.
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But could he beat the great andy tabanas?Jaywheel wrote: ↑12 Oct 2021, 13:56 In 1995, Oscarito had another big year. After 4 wins in 1994 against fighters known by people besides their mother, he had another 5 fights in 1995!!!
No one wondered if Oscarito was "that good" because he fought live and respected opponents unlike an overrated Mexican fighter fighting at the same period.
With wins over John John Molina, Rafael Ruelas, Genaro Hernadez and Jesse James Leija, the Great Oscarito was already securing his place as a Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time.
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It was Finito's first fight since almost a year in April 1995. He suffered some broken knuckles and had to heal for the year.
Ala Villamor was 29-1-1, with 26KOs. Apparently on record, he is a knockout puncher. He was the fourth fighter from the Philippines that Finito defends his crown against. It was Finito's 15th title defense.
The fight was of the undercard of the great Mike Tyson's second fight with WBC World Heavyweight Champion Frank Bruno.
The date? Saturday, March 16, 1996 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, NV.
The fight was dominated by Finito from the start. No surprises here. It was over by a perfect time left uppercut in the 8th round. The referee counted to ten, and Finito retains his WBC World Minimum Crown by an 8th round knockout.
Finito improves to 42-0, with 32 knockouts.
And the fight with Michael Carbajal? Will it happen?
Ala Villamor was 29-1-1, with 26KOs. Apparently on record, he is a knockout puncher. He was the fourth fighter from the Philippines that Finito defends his crown against. It was Finito's 15th title defense.
The fight was of the undercard of the great Mike Tyson's second fight with WBC World Heavyweight Champion Frank Bruno.
The date? Saturday, March 16, 1996 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, NV.
The fight was dominated by Finito from the start. No surprises here. It was over by a perfect time left uppercut in the 8th round. The referee counted to ten, and Finito retains his WBC World Minimum Crown by an 8th round knockout.
Finito improves to 42-0, with 32 knockouts.
And the fight with Michael Carbajal? Will it happen?
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Can't wait to find out.
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On the edge of my seat waiting.
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Yes. Carbajal had a pulse and could bang.
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In his 15th title defense of the WBC World Minimum Crown, Finito cruises easily against challenger Kitichai Preecha of Thailand. Preecha had a record of 7-3.
Finito wins by a 3rd round knockout.
Finito established that he is an all-time great of his weight class at 105lbs. He improves to 43-0, with 33KOs.
Is he about to unify all the belts in his division? Or ee will jump to jr flyweight to challenge American Michael Carbajal? At this point and stage of his career, he is in his complete prime at age 29. It shows that he doesn't have nothing to prove at minimum weight. He must have greater challenges to become a pound per pound all-time great.
Finito wins by a 3rd round knockout.
Finito established that he is an all-time great of his weight class at 105lbs. He improves to 43-0, with 33KOs.
Is he about to unify all the belts in his division? Or ee will jump to jr flyweight to challenge American Michael Carbajal? At this point and stage of his career, he is in his complete prime at age 29. It shows that he doesn't have nothing to prove at minimum weight. He must have greater challenges to become a pound per pound all-time great.
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I'm betting that Elmer is going to convert this into an encyclopedia of bad boxing opinions.
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Is it time for Finito to leave the strawweight class and challenge bigger fish? I believe that yes, he should.
At this point in time, there is nothing to prove at this weight class.
With 17 title defenses, he already long established that he is the best fighter ever in the division history. There is nothing else to prove. A multi-million dollar bout with Michael Carbajal at jr flyweight should happen.
And Morgan NDumo, a southpaw black challenger from South Africa wasn't a match.
Finito did not had any problems in the fight. He won all rounds with technically sound boxing. A shut eye prompt American referee Jay Nady to stop the fight in round #6.
The fight was on the undercard of Tyson-Holyfield fight #1 at MGM Grand in Las Vegas on Saturday, November 9th, 1996.
Finito improves to 44-0, 34KOs
At this point in time, there is nothing to prove at this weight class.
With 17 title defenses, he already long established that he is the best fighter ever in the division history. There is nothing else to prove. A multi-million dollar bout with Michael Carbajal at jr flyweight should happen.
And Morgan NDumo, a southpaw black challenger from South Africa wasn't a match.
Finito did not had any problems in the fight. He won all rounds with technically sound boxing. A shut eye prompt American referee Jay Nady to stop the fight in round #6.
The fight was on the undercard of Tyson-Holyfield fight #1 at MGM Grand in Las Vegas on Saturday, November 9th, 1996.
Finito improves to 44-0, 34KOs
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2.5 years later, without further delay!!!!elmersalsa wrote: ↑30 May 2019, 00:09 We're going to examine the career of every great boxer of my list of the top 100 greatest fighters ever. We're going to talk about their fights and record. Who they beat and who they lost or Drew and so on. A complete analysis of the greats of the ring since 1882. It's going to be a countdown from 100 to 1. You may agree with the ranking or not of about what position should this fighter be in. We can look at their most notably fights. And what fight of each fighter's career was their defining moment. To start this thing off and examining the careers of this 100 greats, I am starting with #100. Fighters that Didn't make the cut in my view:
Marcel Cerdan, Sugar Shane Mosley, Vitali Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko, GGG, Canelo Alvarez, Oscar De La Hoya, Felix "Tito" Trinidad,
Ken Buchanan, Ismael Laguna, Jack Delaney,
Johnny Kilbane, Jack Sharkey, Tommy Gibbons, Mike Gibbons, Max Schmeling, Young Corbett III, Harry Wills, Cocoa Kid, Lloyd Marshall, Harold Johnson, Peerless Jim Driscoll,
Mysterious Billy Smith, James Toney, Floyd Patterson, Jimmy Bivins, Baby Arizmendi etc, etc, etc.
Starting at #100, these to me, are the very best ever. With no further delay, I will start with #100.
100. Jersey Joe Walcott
Record: 51-18-1
KO pct is 63%
Career: 1930-53 (Inactive between 1941 to 1943)
Titles held: World Heavyweight Champion (1951-52)
Highlights: Won 12 in a row from Feb 1945 to Aug 1946. Beat 4 out of 6 Hall of Fame boxers he faced (Record 6-7, 2KOs). Beat 3 out of 5 world champions (Record 5-7, 2KOs).
Historical Impact: Underrated technician with an excellent and perfect left hook. His "Cakewalk Footwork" was one of boxing's all time best. Perseverance and longevity brought him to win finally the World Heavyweight Championship at age 37. Became the oldest boxer to win the Heavyweight Championship for the first time after 4 tries before historic feat.
Defining Fight: WKO7 Ezzard Charles (III)..... July 18, 1951....."With one of boxing's perfect timed left hooks, finally wins the heavyweight crown at age 37 and in his 5th try"
Other Defining Bouts: L15 Joe Louis (I), W10 Jimmy Bivins, W10 Elmer Ray (III), W10 Joey Maxim (II), WKO3 Harold Johnson and LKO13 Rocky Marciano (I).
Let's talk about him. Your thoughts on Jersey Joe Walcott.
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These things take time. Look toney went from not being included to nuber 90 because of all his 2019 boxing achievementsoogiebe wrote: ↑24 Oct 2021, 15:582.5 years later, without further delay!!!!elmersalsa wrote: ↑30 May 2019, 00:09 We're going to examine the career of every great boxer of my list of the top 100 greatest fighters ever. We're going to talk about their fights and record. Who they beat and who they lost or Drew and so on. A complete analysis of the greats of the ring since 1882. It's going to be a countdown from 100 to 1. You may agree with the ranking or not of about what position should this fighter be in. We can look at their most notably fights. And what fight of each fighter's career was their defining moment. To start this thing off and examining the careers of this 100 greats, I am starting with #100. Fighters that Didn't make the cut in my view:
Marcel Cerdan, Sugar Shane Mosley, Vitali Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko, GGG, Canelo Alvarez, Oscar De La Hoya, Felix "Tito" Trinidad,
Ken Buchanan, Ismael Laguna, Jack Delaney,
Johnny Kilbane, Jack Sharkey, Tommy Gibbons, Mike Gibbons, Max Schmeling, Young Corbett III, Harry Wills, Cocoa Kid, Lloyd Marshall, Harold Johnson, Peerless Jim Driscoll,
Mysterious Billy Smith, James Toney, Floyd Patterson, Jimmy Bivins, Baby Arizmendi etc, etc, etc.
Starting at #100, these to me, are the very best ever. With no further delay, I will start with #100.
100. Jersey Joe Walcott
Record: 51-18-1
KO pct is 63%
Career: 1930-53 (Inactive between 1941 to 1943)
Titles held: World Heavyweight Champion (1951-52)
Highlights: Won 12 in a row from Feb 1945 to Aug 1946. Beat 4 out of 6 Hall of Fame boxers he faced (Record 6-7, 2KOs). Beat 3 out of 5 world champions (Record 5-7, 2KOs).
Historical Impact: Underrated technician with an excellent and perfect left hook. His "Cakewalk Footwork" was one of boxing's all time best. Perseverance and longevity brought him to win finally the World Heavyweight Championship at age 37. Became the oldest boxer to win the Heavyweight Championship for the first time after 4 tries before historic feat.
Defining Fight: WKO7 Ezzard Charles (III)..... July 18, 1951....."With one of boxing's perfect timed left hooks, finally wins the heavyweight crown at age 37 and in his 5th try"
Other Defining Bouts: L15 Joe Louis (I), W10 Jimmy Bivins, W10 Elmer Ray (III), W10 Joey Maxim (II), WKO3 Harold Johnson and LKO13 Rocky Marciano (I).
Let's talk about him. Your thoughts on Jersey Joe Walcott.
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Hmmm...you're right. I wonder where Jared Anderson will end up as he'll likely be retired 6 years when Elmo gets to top 50Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑26 Oct 2021, 07:28These things take time. Look toney went from not being included to nuber 90 because of all his 2019 boxing achievementsoogiebe wrote: ↑24 Oct 2021, 15:582.5 years later, without further delay!!!!elmersalsa wrote: ↑30 May 2019, 00:09 We're going to examine the career of every great boxer of my list of the top 100 greatest fighters ever. We're going to talk about their fights and record. Who they beat and who they lost or Drew and so on. A complete analysis of the greats of the ring since 1882. It's going to be a countdown from 100 to 1. You may agree with the ranking or not of about what position should this fighter be in. We can look at their most notably fights. And what fight of each fighter's career was their defining moment. To start this thing off and examining the careers of this 100 greats, I am starting with #100. Fighters that Didn't make the cut in my view:
Marcel Cerdan, Sugar Shane Mosley, Vitali Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko, GGG, Canelo Alvarez, Oscar De La Hoya, Felix "Tito" Trinidad,
Ken Buchanan, Ismael Laguna, Jack Delaney,
Johnny Kilbane, Jack Sharkey, Tommy Gibbons, Mike Gibbons, Max Schmeling, Young Corbett III, Harry Wills, Cocoa Kid, Lloyd Marshall, Harold Johnson, Peerless Jim Driscoll,
Mysterious Billy Smith, James Toney, Floyd Patterson, Jimmy Bivins, Baby Arizmendi etc, etc, etc.
Starting at #100, these to me, are the very best ever. With no further delay, I will start with #100.
100. Jersey Joe Walcott
Record: 51-18-1
KO pct is 63%
Career: 1930-53 (Inactive between 1941 to 1943)
Titles held: World Heavyweight Champion (1951-52)
Highlights: Won 12 in a row from Feb 1945 to Aug 1946. Beat 4 out of 6 Hall of Fame boxers he faced (Record 6-7, 2KOs). Beat 3 out of 5 world champions (Record 5-7, 2KOs).
Historical Impact: Underrated technician with an excellent and perfect left hook. His "Cakewalk Footwork" was one of boxing's all time best. Perseverance and longevity brought him to win finally the World Heavyweight Championship at age 37. Became the oldest boxer to win the Heavyweight Championship for the first time after 4 tries before historic feat.
Defining Fight: WKO7 Ezzard Charles (III)..... July 18, 1951....."With one of boxing's perfect timed left hooks, finally wins the heavyweight crown at age 37 and in his 5th try"
Other Defining Bouts: L15 Joe Louis (I), W10 Jimmy Bivins, W10 Elmer Ray (III), W10 Joey Maxim (II), WKO3 Harold Johnson and LKO13 Rocky Marciano (I).
Let's talk about him. Your thoughts on Jersey Joe Walcott.
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The latest all time pound for pound ratings are strange. How can anybody rate Ricky Hatton above Pernell Whitaker, or Trinidad and Froch above Hagler and Monzon.
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Finito's next title defense was against a southpaw from Thailand named Mongkol Charoen. Charoen with a respectable record of 20-1 with 6KOs, was inexperienced at world class level. And he was only 18 years old.
And not surprises here, Finito dominated from start to finish. If Charoen won one round it was a miracle.
Finito almost stopped the young Thai boxer, but Charoen was very game. Finito wins by Unanimous decision and by far. It was Finito's 19th title defense of his WBC World Minimum Crown.
The fight was staged on Saturday, March 29, 1997 at the Hilton Hotel in Las Vegas, NV.
Finito improves to 46-0, with 35KOs.
And not surprises here, Finito dominated from start to finish. If Charoen won one round it was a miracle.
Finito almost stopped the young Thai boxer, but Charoen was very game. Finito wins by Unanimous decision and by far. It was Finito's 19th title defense of his WBC World Minimum Crown.
The fight was staged on Saturday, March 29, 1997 at the Hilton Hotel in Las Vegas, NV.
Finito improves to 46-0, with 35KOs.
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Mexico vs Puerto perhaps is the biggest country vs country rivalry in the history of boxing. The rivalry between these two nations is very passionate. They have brought some of the greatest fights in boxing history: Wilfredo Gomez vs Carlos Zarate, Salvador Sanchez vs Gomez, Gomez vs Lupe Pintor, Felix "Tito" Trinidad vs Luis "Yory Boy" Campas, Julio Cesar Chavez vs Edwin "Chapo" Rosario and Chavez vs Hector "Macho" Camacho are a few ones that come to mind.
But on August 23, 1997, at the famous Madison Square Garden in New York City, Finito is defending his WBC World Minimum Crown for the 20th time. His opponent? WBO "counterpart" (And I meant counterpart because I don't regard the WBO belt as a real world championship crown)Alex Sanchez of Puerto Rico.
It was supposed to be a big fight and test for the long-reigning champion Lopez of this rivalry. It didn't turn out like it should be. Finito was a clear-cut class above his adversary, even though the Puerto Rican had a respectable record of 25-1, with 18 knockout wins. It was over in 5 rounds.
Finito is again showing his mastery against these challengers at strawweight. So far, they were no match.
Will that match come soon? Finito improves to 47-0, with 36KOs.
But on August 23, 1997, at the famous Madison Square Garden in New York City, Finito is defending his WBC World Minimum Crown for the 20th time. His opponent? WBO "counterpart" (And I meant counterpart because I don't regard the WBO belt as a real world championship crown)Alex Sanchez of Puerto Rico.
It was supposed to be a big fight and test for the long-reigning champion Lopez of this rivalry. It didn't turn out like it should be. Finito was a clear-cut class above his adversary, even though the Puerto Rican had a respectable record of 25-1, with 18 knockout wins. It was over in 5 rounds.
Finito is again showing his mastery against these challengers at strawweight. So far, they were no match.
Will that match come soon? Finito improves to 47-0, with 36KOs.